Russia slams the prison door in the face of Jehovah's Witnesses

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So as far as I've understood, Russia is cracking down on all non-major worldwide religion. Any religion that distances itself from parts of Russian society is deemed extremist. The JW's refuse elections, conscriptions and blood transfusions and therefore caught the attention of the Russian government and was judged an extremist group. That means that they can be JWs individually but are banned from practicing their religion in groups. The danish JW married a Russian JW and has been living in Russia for years. He is the first to be sentenced for breaking that ban by organizing and leading prayer meetings. He got 6 years in jail but of course appealed but appeals in Russia rarely change the outcome. Now there are about 100 other cases lined up for trial against other religious people.

... I'm so gonna say "Njet!" to the next JWs showing up at my door followed by chants of "Ra-sea-ah! Ra-sea-ah!"
 
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So as far as I've understood, Russia is cracking down on all non-major worldwide religion. Any religion that distances itself from parts of Russian society is deemed extremist. The JW's refuse elections, conscriptions and blood transfusions and therefore caught the attention of the Russian government and was judged an extremist group. That means that they can be JWs individually but are bannAed from practicing their religion in groups. The danish JW married a Russian JW and has been living in Russia for years. He is the first to be sentenced for breaking that ban by organizing and leading prayer meetings. He got 6 years in jail but of course appealed but appeals in Russia rarely change the outcome. Now there are about 100 other cases lined up for trial against other religious people.

... I'm so gonna say "Njet!" to the next JWs showing up at my door followed by chants of "Ra-sea-ah! Ra-sea-ah!"
That is religious persecution and only sets the stage to target major religions in the future.
 
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Wordup

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That is religious persecution and only sets the stage to target major religions in the future.
Agreed. I’m not religious and would like to see religion consigned to the history books. But it has to come from society moving on from it, and not from persecution of believers.
An individuals freedom to practice religion is far more important than my dislike for it.
 
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That is religious persecution and only sets the stage to target major religions in the future.
They're not gonna ban the major religions but they are gonna brand anyone not serving Kremlin an extremist and make sure their own thugs lead the respective religions in the Russian Federation. Just like they did with the other states in the Federation like Chechnya with Ramzan Kadyrov in charge.
 
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the russians have had a hardon for the JWs for quite a while................so did the NAZIs,BTW..........

a lot of it has to do with the refusal to serve and the authoritarian wish to eliminate competitive authority sources..............

in russia's case it also has to do with 'protecting' the pet state religion................which is,of course,a tool of 'conservative' authoritarianism...........

Im not a fan of religious persecution

that said,the JWs are,in fact,a dangerous cult thats busy ruining lives [and molesting kids]

the persecution,BTW,plays right into the hands of the JWs who use it as 'evidence' that the end times are here and they were right all along..................they believe they will be 'hunted' by us normies during the end,until jesus comes to save them...........

just let it die already..................religion I mean..............its falling apart in the first world all by itself because access to information kills superstitions...........
 
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the russians have had a hardon for the JWs for quite a while................so did the NAZIs,BTW..........

a lot of it has to do with the refusal to serve and the authoritarian wish to eliminate competitive authority sources..............

in russia's case it also has to do with 'protecting' the pet state religion................which is,of course,a tool of 'conservative' authoritarianism...........

Im not a fan of religious persecution

that said,the JWs are,in fact,a dangerous cult thats busy ruining lives [and molesting kids]

the persecution,BTW,plays right into the hands of the JWs who use it as 'evidence' that the end times are here and they were right all along..................they believe they will be 'hunted' by us normies during the end,until jesus comes to save them...........

just let it die already..................religion I mean..............its falling apart in the first world all by itself because access to information kills superstitions...........
It never will die though, at least not in our lifetimes. Despite what you may think, religion works for a lot of people. Why should they cast away something that is a huge part of their lives and it works for them?
 

SwollenGoat

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It never will die though, at least not in our lifetimes. Despite what you may think, religion works for a lot of people. Why should they cast away something that is a huge part of their lives and it works for them?
religious belief IS dying in the first world

thats a simple fact

will it be gone in my lifetime?

nah

lets not pretend the trends are not important though........and the correlations between things like education and religious belief..............

'persecution' helps rally the troops,so to speak.................which is why first world religious types,in the USA for instance,are always crying 'persecution'............so REAL persecution is,IMO,a mistake...................just let it die a natural death..............