Seems like Boris has officially asked the Queen to porogue parliament.

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Official summary of decision in the Cherry case: "The Court will accordingly make an Order declaring that the Prime Minister’s advice to HM the Queen and the prorogation which followed thereon was unlawful and is thus null and of no effect."


Another job well done by Boris and Cummings :lol:
 

Clarence Worley

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Official summary of decision in the Cherry case: "The Court will accordingly make an Order declaring that the Prime Minister’s advice to HM the Queen and the prorogation which followed thereon was unlawful and is thus null and of no effect."


Another job well done by Boris and Cummings :lol:
well fuck it, let holyrod or whatever its called pick it up until this soros funded shite gets over turned in the supreme court
 

Jack

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She's just wrong to say that it's in Europes interest to give us a good deal. If that was the case, why did we end up with such a weak deal in the first place? It's not like we were going to ask them for less than what they were offering. They don't want the UK leaving to succeed because if it does, it'd be a matter of days before you have other countries wanting to leave on similar terms and then, the only countries that would still want the EU are France, Germany and all those who receive far more than they give. The EU has to give us a poor deal because they don't want us to leave, of course they don't, it's not in their best interest so why would they grease those wheels?

Any talk of taking no deal off the table is ridiculous because it weakens our hand even further. No deal isn't beneficial to anyone in ideal circumstances but the fact that it's detrimental to Europe plays into our favour. Take that off the table and you go into any negotiations even weaker, which means you'll get even fewer concessions.
 
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She's just wrong to say that it's in Europes interest to give us a good deal. If that was the case, why did we end up with such a weak deal in the first place? It's not like we were going to ask them for less than what they were offering. They don't want the UK leaving to succeed because if it does, it'd be a matter of days before you have other countries wanting to leave on similar terms and then, the only countries that would still want the EU are France, Germany and all those who receive far more than they give. The EU has to give us a poor deal because they don't want us to leave, of course they don't, it's not in their best interest so why would they grease those wheels?

Any talk of taking no deal off the table is ridiculous because it weakens our hand even further. No deal isn't beneficial to anyone in ideal circumstances but the fact that it's detrimental to Europe plays into our favour. Take that off the table and you go into any negotiations even weaker, which means you'll get even fewer concessions.
Agree it's not in their interest to give us a good deal, but it's in their interest to give us a soft Brexit with a customs union or even access to the single market, which I think what Labour will push for, even if it means freedom of movement being given up to secure access. Which of course will make Brexiters unhappy and even as a remainer I see it as practically not leaving as your tied to closely to the EU.

Based on that interview and her performance on question time recently, I can't stand her. I have no idea why the Labour party ever let her in front of a camera, the way she plays up to the camera's, rolls her eyes like the questions are so stupid when they are perfectly valid is so patronising.

Her answers to why Corbin has changed from supporting the leave vote to now possibly remain are simply stating the obvious but also inconcise. It's pretty clear Corbyn position has changed as the governments position has changed from leaving with a deal to leaving without one but can she say that? Nope apparently such a concise answer seems beyond her capabilities.
 

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Agree it's not in their interest to give us a good deal, but it's in their interest to give us a soft Brexit with a customs union or even access to the single market, which I think what Labour will push for, even if it means freedom of movement being given up to secure access. Which of course will make Brexiters unhappy and even as a remainer I see it as practically not leaving as your tied to closely to the EU.

Based on that interview and her performance on question time recently, I can't stand her. I have no idea why the Labour party ever let her in front of a camera, the way she plays up to the camera's, rolls her eyes like the questions are so stupid when they are perfectly valid is so patronising.

Her answers to why Corbin has changed from supporting the leave vote to now possibly remain are simply stating the obvious but also inconcise. It's pretty clear Corbyn position has changed as the governments position has changed from leaving with a deal to leaving without one but can she say that? Nope apparently such a concise answer seems beyond her capabilities.
The reason why they put her in front of the cameras is she is actually one of Labours best media operators from the shadow cabinet. You wait until we have the election and we see the likes of Abbott, Raynor and Rebecca Wrong Daily in front of cameras under scrutiny.
 
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Official summary of decision in the Cherry case: "The Court will accordingly make an Order declaring that the Prime Minister’s advice to HM the Queen and the prorogation which followed thereon was unlawful and is thus null and of no effect."


Another job well done by Boris and Cummings :lol:
Still can't get my head around this whole Queen thing. Who gives a fuck what he said or didn't say to her? it shouldn't matter. She shouldn't be consulted. It's not the 12th century and she is not an elected political representative.

Fine, have her as a figure head, but as for running parliamentary decisions by her? Waste of time.
 
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The reason why they put her in front of the cameras is she is actually one of Labours best media operators from the shadow cabinet. You wait until we have the election and we see the likes of Abbott, Raynor and Rebecca Wrong Daily in front of cameras under scrutiny.
You're probably right, if Labour are to have any chance they need to gag Diane Abbott for the duration of the election. She was a disastrous last time.

Though with Corbyn himself once again flip flopping on whether to support leave or remain, he's the one that might do the most damage. He seems incapable of making decisions, always trying to play both sides and not commit to any solid plan. He's meant to lead the party but currently just seems to be dithering about.
 

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Brendan Oneil talking complete rubbish on telly again this morning trying to rewrite history.

The dishonesty is incredible, apparently we all voted for a 'clean brake' with 'no deal' all along :lol:

The fact he is willing to openly lie like this says a lot about his motivations.
 

Clarence Worley

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Brendan Oneil talking complete rubbish on telly again this morning trying to rewrite history.

The dishonesty is incredible, apparently we all voted for a 'clean brake' with 'no deal' all along :lol:

The fact he is willing to openly lie like this says a lot about his motivations.
No what we voted for was a version of leave thats worse than remain - obvs

I voted no fucking deal

#britishindependence
 
Wonder why @Clarence Worley is afraid to admit which town he lives in? Quite happy to bang on about me living in Rotherham , but can’t bring himself admit where he’s from, despite been asked a number of times in this thread.
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No what we voted for was a version of leave thats worse than remain - obvs

I voted no fucking deal

#britishindependence
Slaves have voting rights?
 
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