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Jack

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I can't believe you're seriously suggesting retaliation like that is acceptable.

A police officer is going to be dealing with law breakers on a daily basis, it's only natural, as part of their job. They're not sitting around having tea and crumpets every day with Granny Smith.

Take any job. Your job. My job. We deal with assholes, we deal with crap, but you handle it professionally. If you can't, you find a more suitable job. No difference here.

Retaliation on the job because it's all getting a bit too much for you, is weak and pathetic.
I'm not saying it's acceptable at all. I'm saying it's inevitable. Wearing a badge doesn't mean you're any less likely to snap, after having weeks of being treated like shit, being abused and harassed, having family members threatened and seeing innocent colleagues be shot for no reason.

Is that response appropriate or acceptable? No, of course not, it's not acceptable in any walk of life, but you can only treat humans with contempt for so long, before the odd one reacts violently.
 

Jack

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You find another job. You don't go postal on the job.
I agree that they should leave the job if they're about to react that way, but in the heat of the moment, reactions like that are inevitable. It doesn't make it right or justifiable but it's always going to happen.
 

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And the vast majority of police are like you. The vast majority of civilians are like this too, and don't react with violence either but there's always going to be a few who aren't like that, civilian or not.

The whole point of what I'm saying is, police officers are no different to anyone else. You can't look at the odd officer doing inhumane shit whilst assuming that it's the catalyst rather than the reaction. Most police officers are like you, they'll take shit on the chin and still do the decent thing, but there's a minority who will snap when they're treated like shit, day after day, week after week.

There's always this double standards in regards to how police avd civilians react, not on a professional level but human. That somehow police should always just take it and any time they snap, it's proof that they're subhuman. It's wrong. The police are just humans doing a tough job but if you treat enough of them with contempt, the odd one is bound to snap and react with violence. It's wrong, but it's human nature, and police are as guilty of that as anyone else in society.
Fucking clown. Come up with excuses as to why the police act the way they do, while dismissing they are trained, compensated, and VOLUNTARILY do the stupid as job.

Meanwhile comparing them to civilians and saying oh well some civilians are violent, so it's understandable and excusable that police do too.

Conveniently forgetting that when police do it, the other police close ranks and like and protect their ass and unions do everything they can to make them immune from prosection.


THAT'S the difference when police commit acts of violence and civilians. The normal civilian commits the act of violence and gets punished accordingly. All other civilians don't lie for their ass and close ranks and try to ensure the perpetrators immune from prosecution.

It's funny police have the code of silence and they don't act against criminal police, yet they are angry when criminal street gangs follow the same code of no snitching.


Moron.
 

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Problem is, it's not his community. He chose to drive across a state line to break curfew while carrying an illegal weapon, ...

Wrong on both counts.


Gun used by Kyle Rittenhouse bought and stored in Wisconsin, prosecutor says

(CNN) - The gun allegedly used by Kyle Rittenhouse in the shooting in Kenosha, Wisconsin to kill two men during a protest in August was purchased and stored in Wisconsin, according to a press release by the Lake County, Illinois State Attorney's Office.

The release says that the Antioch Police Department conducted an extensive investigation and concluded that there is "no evidence the gun was ever physically possessed" in Illionois. The Lake County SAO would not confirm to CNN the status of any charges against the 17-year old in the state.

Rittenhouse's attorney, Mark Racine told CNN in an email that Rittenhouse's father lives in Kenosha.

"He has strong ties to the community and the state has no evidence of any militia involvement on the part of Kyle," Racine said in an email.

The news release does not reveal who is believed to have bought or owned the gun before the shooting. Antioch Police and Kenosha Police have not responded to CNN's request for additional information.

Rittenhouse is facing multiple homicide charges after two people were killed and a third was seriously injured during a protest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha on August 25, as CNN previously reported. He was arrested in his home state of Illinois a day later.

He remains in a juvenile detention center in Lake County where he is being held without bond, according to the release. As CNN previously reported, Rittenhouse's extradition hearing is scheduled for October 30.
 

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Another update:


Man who fired shots before Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha charged
'The defendant is seen walking in the same area, holding his right arm upwards, and firing off one shot from his handgun,' a criminal complaint said

The man who admitted firing gunshots before Kyle Rittenhouse gunned down two people and wounded a third during a protest in Kenosha, Wis., has been charged.

Joshua Ziminski, 35, faces disorderly conduct and use of a dangerous weapon charges stemming from the Aug. 25 shooting during protests in the city over Jacob Blake's serious injuries after being shot in the back by police.

According to a criminal complaint obtained by Fox News, Kenosha detectives investigating the fatal shootings reviewed video footage of the night's events and observed Ziminski holding a black handgun. In one video, he is seen walking with his wife near the Ultimate Gas Station before he is captured firing a shot into the air, authorities said.

“Detective Howard observed a muzzle flash emit from the handgun, and heard a gunshot at the same time," the complaint states. "In another video, the defendant is clearly seen at that same location. The defendant is seen walking in the same area, holding his right arm upwards, and firing off one shot from his handgun."

Detectives met with Ziminski and his wife on Oct. 7, where they both admitted he fired a "warning shot" into the air. The pair also said the firearm was stolen from their home several days prior.

Rittenhouse's attorney, Lin Wood, released an 11-minute video last month through his #FightBackFoundation that says shots were fired before and after the teen killed Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, in the first fatal shooting.

Wood said video footage of the incident proves his client acted in self-defense.

"The evidence is overwhelming," Wood told Fox News on Tuesday. "There's not one iota of evidence that he did anything except defend himself."

Ziminski pleaded not guilty to the charges against him Friday and was released on $1,000, according to records. A court hearing is scheduled for Dec. 4. Calls and messages to his attorney were not returned.

After shooting Rosenbaum, Rittenhouse was seen in a now-viral video running on the street with a military-style rifle. He then shot and killed Anthony Huber, 26 and wounded another person in the arm as he appeared to be attacked while on the ground.

He is charged with first-degree intentional homicide and several other criminal charges. He is being held in Illinois, pending extradition to Wisconsin.

On Tuesday, Illinois prosecutors said they declined to charge the teen with gun offenses after an investigation revealed he never possessed the weapon used in the killings in the state.
 

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Another update:


Man who fired shots before Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha charged
'The defendant is seen walking in the same area, holding his right arm upwards, and firing off one shot from his handgun,' a criminal complaint said

The man who admitted firing gunshots before Kyle Rittenhouse gunned down two people and wounded a third during a protest in Kenosha, Wis., has been charged.

Joshua Ziminski, 35, faces disorderly conduct and use of a dangerous weapon charges stemming from the Aug. 25 shooting during protests in the city over Jacob Blake's serious injuries after being shot in the back by police.

According to a criminal complaint obtained by Fox News, Kenosha detectives investigating the fatal shootings reviewed video footage of the night's events and observed Ziminski holding a black handgun. In one video, he is seen walking with his wife near the Ultimate Gas Station before he is captured firing a shot into the air, authorities said.

“Detective Howard observed a muzzle flash emit from the handgun, and heard a gunshot at the same time," the complaint states. "In another video, the defendant is clearly seen at that same location. The defendant is seen walking in the same area, holding his right arm upwards, and firing off one shot from his handgun."

Detectives met with Ziminski and his wife on Oct. 7, where they both admitted he fired a "warning shot" into the air. The pair also said the firearm was stolen from their home several days prior.

Rittenhouse's attorney, Lin Wood, released an 11-minute video last month through his #FightBackFoundation that says shots were fired before and after the teen killed Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, in the first fatal shooting.

Wood said video footage of the incident proves his client acted in self-defense.

"The evidence is overwhelming," Wood told Fox News on Tuesday. "There's not one iota of evidence that he did anything except defend himself."

Ziminski pleaded not guilty to the charges against him Friday and was released on $1,000, according to records. A court hearing is scheduled for Dec. 4. Calls and messages to his attorney were not returned.

After shooting Rosenbaum, Rittenhouse was seen in a now-viral video running on the street with a military-style rifle. He then shot and killed Anthony Huber, 26 and wounded another person in the arm as he appeared to be attacked while on the ground.

He is charged with first-degree intentional homicide and several other criminal charges. He is being held in Illinois, pending extradition to Wisconsin.

On Tuesday, Illinois prosecutors said they declined to charge the teen with gun offenses after an investigation revealed he never possessed the weapon used in the killings in the state.
The 'weapons charge' in Ilinois was always a non-issue. Only the spastics that keep parroting the 'he crossed state lines' bullshit bought into that, and they'll keep repeating it anyway. Spastics gonna spastic.

The charge against the first shooter is potentially huge, but it's not a case-winner in itself though. It's not enough for Kyle to say 'I heard shots' as part of a self defence case, he has to say 'I thought someone was shooting at me, and I feared for my life' or something similar. We don't know what he told the police, if anything, before he lawyered up. I would like to think he had a lawyer from the second he was arrested, but he seems like the type to be unnecessarily 'helpful' to cops.

All that said, if it's established that this guy started this whole mess off, then bicep guy is in deep shit.
 
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The 'weapons charge' in Ilinois was always a non-issue. Only the spastics that keep parroting the 'he crossed state lines' bullshit bought into that, and they'll keep repeating it anyway. Spastics gonna spastic.

The charge against the first shooter is potentially huge, but it's not a case-winner in itself though. It's not enough for Kyle to say 'I heard shots' as part of a self defence case, he has to say 'I thought someone was shooting at me, and I feared for my life' or something similar. We don't know what he told the police, if anything, before he lawyered up. I would like to think he had a lawyer from the second he was arrested, but he seems like the type to be unnecessarily 'helpful' to cops.

All that said, if it's established that this guy started this whole mess off, then bicep guy is in deep shit.
People who bring up that he crossed state lines are people who are okay with the rioting and destruction. They think he was wrong to try and stop thugs from burning businesses so they are just looking for things to throw at him. I don’t care if he got on a plane and went across country to defend businesses, that is not the issue. The issue is left wing trash was attacking another town and his rifle would not have been an issue if that trash did not attack him.
 
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People who bring up that he crossed state lines are people who are okay with the rioting and destruction. They think he was wrong to try and stop thugs from burning businesses so they are just looking for things to throw at him. I don’t care if he got on a plane and went across country to defend businesses, that is not the issue.
Wait - he was there to defend businesses?

Which businesses asked for his presence?

I thought he said he was there to be an untrained, no experience medic?

Get your excuses straight, ffs.


The issue is left wing trash was attacking another town and his rifle would not have been an issue if that trash did not attack him.
Hey, you know what else would have prevented that trash from attacking him?

Aside from the illegal gun that he wasn't allowed to buy, own, transport across state lines or open carry, that is?

If he had stayed the fuck at home in his own town, instead of getting his Mum to drive him to a different state so he could rubberneck and be a LARPer and a disaster tourist.

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Aside from the illegal gun that he wasn't allowed to buy, own, transport across state lines or open carry, that is?

If he had stayed the fuck at home in his own town, instead of getting his Mum to drive him to a different state so he could rubberneck and be a LARPer and a disaster tourist.

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Are you deliberately being a spastic?

Repeating the same lies won't make them so. For the 27th time, the gun wasn't carried across state lines.

http://checkhookboxing.com/index.php?threads/shit-show-shooting.121008/post-3960739

Why do you insist on spreading lies?
 

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I didn’t see the whole video but this is going to be the best trial of all time. A crime that was captured on phone..

I predict he will get off on the murder charges..
I agree. He shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place but it was made possible by other people who were charged for those action. No matter how he ended up in that situation, he didn't actually go beyond what was necessary to protect himself and he did try to disengage from the people he ended up shooting. I've seen 2 similar cases in Denmark which has much stricter laws in this regards and people were not punished for actually defending themselves when their lives depended on it. The got off with illegally owning a firearm convictions.
 
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Rittenhouse also told police that the firearm he used was in the trunk of his friend's car, parked at the Rittenhouse's family apartment in Antioch.


Antioch is his hometown in Illinois.


So yes, the gun was taken across state lines.

His friend essentially acted as a straw purchaser and illegally provided him with a weapon he was unable to buy on his own.
 
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Rittenhouse also told police that the firearm he used was in the trunk of his friend's car, parked at the Rittenhouse's family apartment in Antioch.


Antioch is his hometown in Illinois.


So yes, the gun was taken across state lines.

His friend essentially acted as a straw purchaser and illegally provided him with a weapon he was unable to buy on his own.
So why wasn't he charged with gun offenses?