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Bad shoot? How? He is drawing accidental disability because he shot that guy accidentally 5 times after trying to force him to crawl across the floor on his knees with his shorts falling down.

Obviously the camera isn't lying. The guy was a menace and even with multiple rifles pointed at him he was a danger to them all.

Split second decisions and such.


If the guy was never born, he would have never been shot.
We agree on this one. This was as bad as it gets. I have never said there are no bad shoots. Walter Scott and Samuel Debois are 2 more That stand out. In this case the guy that shot was not the guy giving commands.
Something needs to be done about police unions for starters. Everything needs to be on video and every video needs to be looked at by a citizen panel. Bad cops can’t be rehired.
 
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Icemmann

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We agree on this one. This was as bad as it gets. I have never said there are no bad shoots. Walter Scott and Samuel Debois are 2 more That stand out. In this case the guy that shot was not the guy giving commands.
Something needs to be done about police unions for starters. Everything needs to be on video and every video needs to be looked at by a citizen panel. Bad cops can’t be rehired.
You're making sense here. What the fuck? I must be coming down with covid and the fever is making me hallucinate.


 

Jack

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The police have training. They have counselors provided to them through their department. If they have difficult coping with anything they're entitled to go on leave, and if they never recover from it, they can retire and draw an early pension.


Tell me what the kid who loses siblings, or friends, or neighbors to violence gets? What resources do they have when something adversely affects them?

Tell me more about the poor police.
I have no idea why you're conflating two completely different subjects. It's not a good rebbutal at all, the two issues are incomparable. Of course its going to be different when people experience these things in their working life than regular members of the public.

Does a train operator get more support when someone commits suicide by jumping in front of the train, than people who see that suicide on the platform? Obviously, yes...so what? You're trying to portray some injustice when the reality is, this happens throughout society and its right that emergency workers are given the utmost support.
 
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I have no idea why you're conflating two completely different subjects. It's not a good rebbutal at all, the two issues are incomparable. Of course its going to be different when people experience these things in their working life than regular members of the public.

Does a train operator get more support when someone commits suicide by jumping in front of the train, than people who see that suicide on the platform? Obviously, yes...so what? You're trying to portray some injustice when the reality is, this happens throughout society and its right that emergency workers are given the utmost support.
OBVIOUSLY yes?

you seem to think the USA is the same as the UK jack

you sure train operators here have good insurance and a package that includes mental health coverage?

Im betting,in fact,that in the UK the folks on the platform can go see someone too.................or do yall not have mental health coverage there?

HERE?

not so much

COPS have very good insurance

thats not going to be true of,lets say,all train operators or whatever else you might want to point at
 
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I have no idea why you're conflating two completely different subjects. It's not a good rebbutal at all, the two issues are incomparable. Of course its going to be different when people experience these things in their working life than regular members of the public.

Does a train operator get more support when someone commits suicide by jumping in front of the train, than people who see that suicide on the platform? Obviously, yes...so what? You're trying to portray some injustice when the reality is, this happens throughout society and its right that emergency workers are given the utmost support.
You used the example of the cops coming in and seeing the aftermath of a suicide. Is it more traumatic for them than it is for those that had to see it firsthand? For those that knew him?

Bear in mind one is there voluntarily and they are compensated for it and have plenty of tools available for them to utilize.


As for you train operator analogy, it doesn't compare to cops. Talk to me when a train operator deliberately runs someone down and then claims it was necessary because they were scared, and their union fights for them to keep from being fired for being shit heels, and their fellow train operators rally behind them while they dub themselves heroes and tell everyone they can't criticize them because they don't operate trains.


Get back in your fucking shed.
 

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You used the example of the cops coming in and seeing the aftermath of a suicide. Is it more traumatic for them than it is for those that had to see it firsthand? For those that knew him?

Bear in mind one is there voluntarily and they are compensated for it and have plenty of tools available for them to utilize.


As for you train operator analogy, it doesn't compare to cops. Talk to me when a train operator deliberately runs someone down and then claims it was necessary because they were scared, and their union fights for them to keep from being fired for being shit heels, and their fellow train operators rally behind them while they dub themselves heroes and tell everyone they can't criticize them because they don't operate trains.


Get back in your fucking shed.
Did I say it's worse for cops than it is for family members? No I didn't. Of course it's more traumatic for family members but I didn't realise that if two people see the same thing, only one can be affected.

You're an idiot...just terrible, childish arguments that an 11 year old would be embarrassedby. Just the sort of "so what you're saying..." strawman nonsense that would give Cathy Newman a run for her money.
 

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I'll give the cops that responded to McNultys suicide credit though. They didn't shoot his dog.

On second thought I'll amend that to only partial credit, because I'm unable to determine if they didn't shoot the dog out of decency, or they were reluctant to attempt because the dog was a really small target they could have struggled to hit.
 
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Did I say it's worse for cops than it is for family members? No I didn't. Of course it's more traumatic for family members but I didn't realise that if two people see the same thing, only one can be affected.

You're an idiot...just terrible, childish arguments that an 11 year old would be embarrassedby. Just the sort of "so what you're saying..." strawman nonsense that would give Cathy Newman a run for her money.
You don't get to accuse me of being a shit poster, with your paragraphs of keyboard diarrhea.
 

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You don't get to accuse me of being a shit poster, with your paragraphs of keyboard diarrhea.
Your constant terrible responses and nonsense whataboutism warranted that response and I wasn't wrong. You've shown nothing other than childlike stupidity to justify your weird anti-police stance.
 
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Your constant terrible responses and nonsense whataboutism warranted that response and I wasn't wrong. You've shown nothing other than childlike stupidity to justify your weird anti-police stance.
After reading your drivel in the Eric Snowden thread I'm going to point out you're the least qualified person to accuse anybody of childlike stupidity.


Why didn't Snowden report his issues to the higher ups instead of leaking the information to a collection of media.


It wouldn't have anything to do with the higher ups being complicit in the NSAs activity and that his reporting it to a higher up would have likely had him labeled a potential threat and the NDAA would allow them to stick his ass in a hole in Guantanamo bay with no right to due process and no right to an attorney, until he dies of old age?

You're a fucking oxygen thief.
 
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Jack

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After reading your drivel in the Eric Snowden thread I'm going to point out you're the least qualified person to accuse anybody of childlike stupidity.


Why didn't Snowden report his issues to the higher ups instead of leaking the information to a collection of media.


It wouldn't have anything to do with the higher ups being complicit in the NSAs activity and that his reporting it to a higher up would have likely had him labeled a potential threat and the NDAA would allow them to stick his ass in a hole in Guantanamo bay with no right to due process and no right to an attorney, until he dies of old age?

You're a fucking oxygen thief.
Mate, it's not worth replying to you. No matter what I say, you'll just reply with some nonsense, strawman whataboutism, so it's not worth my time.
 
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A former Mesa, Arizona, police officer who was
acquitted two years ago in the fatal shooting of an unarmed man seen on video pleading "please do not shoot me" was temporarily rehired by his department last year so he could apply for an accidental disability pension.

Philip Mitchell Brailsford, 28, is now retired from the force with a tax-free pension worth $31,000 a year for life — and his attorney confirmed Friday that the settlement was a result of him suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder due to the shooting involving Daniel Shaver of Texas.



Fuckhead murders a guy who is crawling on his knees begging not to be killed. Gets acquitted because it's easy for cops to get morons like Pete on their jury.
The acquittal was a horrible travesty of justice, then the Mesa PD rub salt into the wounds of decent Americans everywhere by conspiring with that weasel cop to help him get a pension for murdering a man?

Christ on a cracker, I cannot believe the sheer gall of the former cop to ask for disability related to PTSD from the murder itself. I rarely wish ill on anyone, but I hope that little fuck gets ass cancer that metastasizes to his pancreas, and then he cannot get a physician to prescribe any pain meds because of the CDC's retarded guidelines.
 
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For the love of god. SHUT THE FUCK UP. ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING TWEETS! YOU FUCKING FAGGOT, EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
Honestly,

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Makes the forum halfway readable again. It's not like any cunt reads his cut n paste spammed shite and the fucker barely makes an honest post anyway.
 
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