So, about those statues

Trail

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God help us all.
Could go full circle and us white folk might have to campaign to have a voice or a slot on UK daytime TV (because since Career Criminal George got his neck stood on every current affairs programme has a black representative on there now, everyone interviewed about anything seems to be black/asian pushing their agenda). Will the white be vilified for not taking the bastard knee? Can you imagine it if one of the Premier League sheep would have remained standing when all his other white mates were on their knees? He'd be playing for Newport County from that day onwards.

I appreciate the need for equality, but some people take the fucking piss.
 

ant-man

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Could go full circle and us white folk might have to campaign to have a voice or a slot on UK daytime TV (because since Career Criminal George got his neck stood on every current affairs programme has a black representative on there now, everyone interviewed about anything seems to be black/asian pushing their agenda). Will the white be vilified for not taking the bastard knee? Can you imagine it if one of the Premier League sheep would have remained standing when all his other white mates were on their knees? He'd be playing for Newport County from that day onwards.

I appreciate the need for equality, but some people take the fucking piss.
I just think there's an awful lot of unhappy people around. They haven't got a fucking clue what they're 'protesting' about but fuck it they'll protest anyway. :lol:
 
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I just think there's an awful lot of unhappy people around. They haven't got a fucking clue what they're 'protesting' about but fuck it they'll protest anyway. :lol:
they should work instead of protest
Maybe force labour those left fuckers

as for people of different color protesting (overhere) saying my nation is racist or has racist customs like for example black face..

fuck off to you’re own nation then..
We let you in as refugees we gave you a chance for a new life and this is how you thank us ??

open auschwitz again and gas them all I say...
 
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WaltzingMatilda

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From some shit cunt at Oxford uni
I’d like someone to rebuke it, it’s written like the little toe rag entitled cunt thinks Oxford University is the centre of the fucking universe


An absolute Classic and articulate rebuke, as one would expect from Oxford!

This letter is a response from Oxford to Black Students attending as Rhodes Scholars to remove the statue of Oxford Benefactor, Cecil Rhodes.
13 February 2016

OXFORD - THE FIGHTBACK HAS BEGUN

Interestingly, Chris Patten (Lord Patten of Barnes), The Chancellor of Oxford University, was on the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 yesterday on precisely the same topic. The Daily Telegraph headline yesterday was "Oxford will not rewrite history".
Patten commented "Education is not indoctrination. Our history is not a blank page on which we can write our own version of what it should have been according to our contemporary views and prejudice" Rhodes must fall ????

"Dear Scrotty Students,

Cecil Rhodes's generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort and well being of many generations of Oxford students - a good many of them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.

This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in his lifetime - but then we don't have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs. If you don't understand what this means - and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the case - then we really think you should ask yourself the question: "Why am I at Oxford?"

Oxford, let us remind you, is the world's second oldest extant university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th century. We've played a major part in the invention of Western civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through the Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, Roger Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, Sir Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel Johnson, Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, Cardinal Newman, Julie Cocks. We're a big deal. And most of the people privileged to come and study here are conscious of what a big deal we are. Oxford is their alma mater - their dear mother - and they respect and revere her accordingly.

And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts, mainly. Sure we'll concede you the short lived Southern African civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let's be brutally honest here. The contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as near as damn it to zilch.

You'll probably say that's "racist". But it's what we here at Oxford prefer to call "true." Perhaps the rules are different at other universities. In fact, we know things are different at other universities. We've watched with horror at what’s been happening across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the "safe spaces"; the? #?blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural relativism; the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom rightly called "the closing of the American mind". At Oxford however, we will always prefer facts and free, open debate to petty grievance-mongering, identity politics and empty sloganeering. The day we cease to do so is the day we lose the right to call ourselves the world's greatest university.

Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time at Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. (Though it does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is
these days for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela Rhodes scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates - or, in your case - postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don't expect us to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You may be black - "BME" as the grisly modern terminology has it - but we are colour blind. We have been educating gifted ndergraduates from our former colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many generations. We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. We do, however, discriminate according to intellect.

That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up with fatuous ideas, we don't pat them on the back, give them a red rosette and say: "Ooh, you're black and you come from South Africa. What a clever chap you are!" No. We prefer to see the quality of those ideas tested in the crucible of public debate. That's another key part of the Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue any damn thing you like but you need to be able to justify it with facts and logic - otherwise your idea is worthless.

This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes should be removed from Oriel College, because it's symbolic of "institutional racism" and "white slavery". Well even if it is - which we dispute - so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that they can't pass a bronze statue without having their "safe space" violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were to remove Rhodes's statue on the premise that his life wasn't blemish-free, where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has pointed out, Oriel's other benefactors include two kings so awful - Edward II and Charles I - that their subjects had them killed. The college opposite - Christ Church - was built by a murderous, thieving bully who bumped off two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: does that invalidate the US Constitution? Winston Churchill had unenlightened views about Muslims and India: was he then the wrong man to lead Britain in the war?"

Actually, we'll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign is not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree with Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here is no different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to artefacts in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.

And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it should order its affairs? Your ?#?rhodesmustfall campaign, we understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black activist who told one of his lecturers "whites have to be killed". One of you - Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh - is the privileged son of a rich politician and a member of a party whose slogan is "Kill the Boer; Kill the Farmer"; another of you, Ntokozo Qwabe, who is only in Oxford as a beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need for "socially conscious black students" to "dominate white universities, and do so ruthlessly and decisively!

Great. That's just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference and ignorance, one of the world's highest per capita murder rates, institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think will enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.

And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent, more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those 22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the irritation of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they clearly don't merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to ruin the life and fabric of our beloved university.

Understand us and understand this clearly: you have everything to learn from us; we have nothing to learn from you.

Yours, Oriel College, Oxford
 

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From some shit cunt at Oxford uni
I’d like someone to rebuke it, it’s written like the little toe rag entitled cunt thinks Oxford University is the centre of the fucking universe


An absolute Classic and articulate rebuke, as one would expect from Oxford!

This letter is a response from Oxford to Black Students attending as Rhodes Scholars to remove the statue of Oxford Benefactor, Cecil Rhodes.
13 February 2016

OXFORD - THE FIGHTBACK HAS BEGUN

Interestingly, Chris Patten (Lord Patten of Barnes), The Chancellor of Oxford University, was on the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 yesterday on precisely the same topic. The Daily Telegraph headline yesterday was "Oxford will not rewrite history".
Patten commented "Education is not indoctrination. Our history is not a blank page on which we can write our own version of what it should have been according to our contemporary views and prejudice" Rhodes must fall ????

"Dear Scrotty Students,

Cecil Rhodes's generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort and well being of many generations of Oxford students - a good many of them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.

This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in his lifetime - but then we don't have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs. If you don't understand what this means - and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the case - then we really think you should ask yourself the question: "Why am I at Oxford?"

Oxford, let us remind you, is the world's second oldest extant university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th century. We've played a major part in the invention of Western civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through the Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, Roger Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, Sir Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel Johnson, Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, Cardinal Newman, Julie Cocks. We're a big deal. And most of the people privileged to come and study here are conscious of what a big deal we are. Oxford is their alma mater - their dear mother - and they respect and revere her accordingly.

And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts, mainly. Sure we'll concede you the short lived Southern African civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let's be brutally honest here. The contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as near as damn it to zilch.

You'll probably say that's "racist". But it's what we here at Oxford prefer to call "true." Perhaps the rules are different at other universities. In fact, we know things are different at other universities. We've watched with horror at what’s been happening across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the "safe spaces"; the? #?blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural relativism; the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom rightly called "the closing of the American mind". At Oxford however, we will always prefer facts and free, open debate to petty grievance-mongering, identity politics and empty sloganeering. The day we cease to do so is the day we lose the right to call ourselves the world's greatest university.

Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time at Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. (Though it does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is
these days for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela Rhodes scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates - or, in your case - postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don't expect us to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You may be black - "BME" as the grisly modern terminology has it - but we are colour blind. We have been educating gifted ndergraduates from our former colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many generations. We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. We do, however, discriminate according to intellect.

That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up with fatuous ideas, we don't pat them on the back, give them a red rosette and say: "Ooh, you're black and you come from South Africa. What a clever chap you are!" No. We prefer to see the quality of those ideas tested in the crucible of public debate. That's another key part of the Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue any damn thing you like but you need to be able to justify it with facts and logic - otherwise your idea is worthless.

This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes should be removed from Oriel College, because it's symbolic of "institutional racism" and "white slavery". Well even if it is - which we dispute - so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that they can't pass a bronze statue without having their "safe space" violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were to remove Rhodes's statue on the premise that his life wasn't blemish-free, where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has pointed out, Oriel's other benefactors include two kings so awful - Edward II and Charles I - that their subjects had them killed. The college opposite - Christ Church - was built by a murderous, thieving bully who bumped off two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: does that invalidate the US Constitution? Winston Churchill had unenlightened views about Muslims and India: was he then the wrong man to lead Britain in the war?"

Actually, we'll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign is not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree with Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here is no different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to artefacts in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.

And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it should order its affairs? Your ?#?rhodesmustfall campaign, we understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black activist who told one of his lecturers "whites have to be killed". One of you - Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh - is the privileged son of a rich politician and a member of a party whose slogan is "Kill the Boer; Kill the Farmer"; another of you, Ntokozo Qwabe, who is only in Oxford as a beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need for "socially conscious black students" to "dominate white universities, and do so ruthlessly and decisively!

Great. That's just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference and ignorance, one of the world's highest per capita murder rates, institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think will enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.

And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent, more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those 22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the irritation of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they clearly don't merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to ruin the life and fabric of our beloved university.

Understand us and understand this clearly: you have everything to learn from us; we have nothing to learn from you.

Yours, Oriel College, Oxford
I automatically read that in a pompous English accent in my head.

I was expecting the ma'am who wrote this to be the spitting image of Sir Banestre Tarleton in the awful The Patriot movie or at the very least another British moustache twirling Mel Gibson villain Edward Longshankes from Braveheart. Alas instead this is what he looks like 13023

They don't make Anglo Saxons like they used to and considering he's an avid climate change denier, Oxford isn't what it used to be either
 
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I automatically read that in a pompous English accent in my head.

I was expecting the ma'am who wrote this to be the spitting image of Sir Banestre Tarleton in the awful The Patriot movie or at the very least another British moustache twirling Mel Gibson villain Edward Longshankes from Braveheart. Alas instead this is what he looks like View attachment 13023

They don't make Anglo Saxons like they used to and considering he's an avid climate change denier, Oxford isn't what it used to be either
The Patriot is a brilliant film.
 
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I automatically read that in a pompous English accent in my head.

I was expecting the ma'am who wrote this to be the spitting image of Sir Banestre Tarleton in the awful The Patriot movie or at the very least another British moustache twirling Mel Gibson villain Edward Longshankes from Braveheart. Alas instead this is what he looks like View attachment 13023

They don't make Anglo Saxons like they used to and considering he's an avid climate change denier, Oxford isn't what it used to be either
I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil.
 
Jul 6, 2019
5,044
5,234
From some shit cunt at Oxford uni
I’d like someone to rebuke it, it’s written like the little toe rag entitled cunt thinks Oxford University is the centre of the fucking universe


An absolute Classic and articulate rebuke, as one would expect from Oxford!

This letter is a response from Oxford to Black Students attending as Rhodes Scholars to remove the statue of Oxford Benefactor, Cecil Rhodes.
13 February 2016

OXFORD - THE FIGHTBACK HAS BEGUN

Interestingly, Chris Patten (Lord Patten of Barnes), The Chancellor of Oxford University, was on the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 yesterday on precisely the same topic. The Daily Telegraph headline yesterday was "Oxford will not rewrite history".
Patten commented "Education is not indoctrination. Our history is not a blank page on which we can write our own version of what it should have been according to our contemporary views and prejudice" Rhodes must fall ????

"Dear Scrotty Students,

Cecil Rhodes's generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort and well being of many generations of Oxford students - a good many of them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.

This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in his lifetime - but then we don't have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs. If you don't understand what this means - and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the case - then we really think you should ask yourself the question: "Why am I at Oxford?"

Oxford, let us remind you, is the world's second oldest extant university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th century. We've played a major part in the invention of Western civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through the Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, Roger Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, Sir Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel Johnson, Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, Cardinal Newman, Julie Cocks. We're a big deal. And most of the people privileged to come and study here are conscious of what a big deal we are. Oxford is their alma mater - their dear mother - and they respect and revere her accordingly.

And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts, mainly. Sure we'll concede you the short lived Southern African civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let's be brutally honest here. The contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as near as damn it to zilch.

You'll probably say that's "racist". But it's what we here at Oxford prefer to call "true." Perhaps the rules are different at other universities. In fact, we know things are different at other universities. We've watched with horror at what’s been happening across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the "safe spaces"; the? #?blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural relativism; the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom rightly called "the closing of the American mind". At Oxford however, we will always prefer facts and free, open debate to petty grievance-mongering, identity politics and empty sloganeering. The day we cease to do so is the day we lose the right to call ourselves the world's greatest university.

Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time at Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. (Though it does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is
these days for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela Rhodes scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates - or, in your case - postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don't expect us to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You may be black - "BME" as the grisly modern terminology has it - but we are colour blind. We have been educating gifted ndergraduates from our former colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many generations. We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. We do, however, discriminate according to intellect.

That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up with fatuous ideas, we don't pat them on the back, give them a red rosette and say: "Ooh, you're black and you come from South Africa. What a clever chap you are!" No. We prefer to see the quality of those ideas tested in the crucible of public debate. That's another key part of the Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue any damn thing you like but you need to be able to justify it with facts and logic - otherwise your idea is worthless.

This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes should be removed from Oriel College, because it's symbolic of "institutional racism" and "white slavery". Well even if it is - which we dispute - so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that they can't pass a bronze statue without having their "safe space" violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were to remove Rhodes's statue on the premise that his life wasn't blemish-free, where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has pointed out, Oriel's other benefactors include two kings so awful - Edward II and Charles I - that their subjects had them killed. The college opposite - Christ Church - was built by a murderous, thieving bully who bumped off two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: does that invalidate the US Constitution? Winston Churchill had unenlightened views about Muslims and India: was he then the wrong man to lead Britain in the war?"

Actually, we'll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign is not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree with Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here is no different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to artefacts in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.

And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it should order its affairs? Your ?#?rhodesmustfall campaign, we understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black activist who told one of his lecturers "whites have to be killed". One of you - Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh - is the privileged son of a rich politician and a member of a party whose slogan is "Kill the Boer; Kill the Farmer"; another of you, Ntokozo Qwabe, who is only in Oxford as a beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need for "socially conscious black students" to "dominate white universities, and do so ruthlessly and decisively!

Great. That's just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference and ignorance, one of the world's highest per capita murder rates, institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think will enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.

And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent, more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those 22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the irritation of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they clearly don't merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to ruin the life and fabric of our beloved university.

Understand us and understand this clearly: you have everything to learn from us; we have nothing to learn from you.

Yours, Oriel College, Oxford
That's great.

Reads like the letter Inspector Morse would find that proves who the murderer was.

In fact, it reads even better if you play the Morse theme as you read it.

 
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Theodore Roosevelt statue to be removed by New York museum

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A bronze statue of former US President Theodore Roosevelt is to be removed amid an ongoing backlash against symbols of racial bias and imperialism.
The statue outside the American Museum of Natural History in New York shows Roosevelt on horseback flanked by a Native American man and an African man.
A great-grandson of the president agreed with the removal, saying it did not reflect Roosevelt's legacy.
But President Donald Trump tweeted: "Ridiculous, don't do it!"

There has been a heated debate in the United States over the appropriateness of certain statues and commemorations since the death in police custody of African American George Floyd.

Symbols linked to the US Confederacy, which supported slavery, have been particularly targeted in the US.
Monuments to Christopher Columbus, the 15th Century explorer whose voyages on behalf of Spain opened the way for the European colonisation of the Americas, have also been criticised in the US as symbols of imperialism.
But the anti-statue campaign, arising from the Black Lives Matter movement, has spread globally, with monuments targeted in a number of countries.


What's behind the museum's decision?

The statue has stood outside the museum's Central Park West entrance since 1940.

Mayor Bill de Blasio said on Sunday: "The museum has asked to remove the Theodore Roosevelt statue because it explicitly depicts black and indigenous people as subjugated and racially inferior."

He said he backed the decision, adding it was "the right time to remove this problematic statue".

The museum's president, Ellen Futter, said the world had become focused on "statues as powerful and hurtful symbols of systemic racism".
She said the decision was based on the composition of the statue and not on Roosevelt, whom the museum would continue to honour.
A great-grandson of the former president, Theodore Roosevelt IV, told the New York Times: "The composition of the equestrian statue does not reflect Theodore Roosevelt's legacy. It is time to move the statue and move forward."

Activists opposed to symbols of colonial expansion and racial discrimination have wanted the statue removed for many years.

President Trump did not agree, tweeting his opposition early on Monday:
Twitter post by @realDonaldTrump: Ridiculous, don’t do it!

At a rally last week, the president condemned "the unhinged left-wing mob trying to vandalise our history, desecrate our monuments".
It has not yet been announced what will happen to the statue.

Who was Theodore Roosevelt?

The Republican was one of the more flamboyant and commemorated of the country's presidents, serving two terms from 1901 to 1909, and is often ranked in the top five in terms of achievement.

But there is no doubt his legacy is complex - a man who won widespread praise for proposals that led towards a welfare state, while also having a deeply troubling advocacy of eugenics.

"Teddy", as he is known, is one of the four faces on the famous Mount Rushmore monument, where he joins Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson and George

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Roosevelt wedges his moustache in between Jefferson and Lincoln


The legacies of Jefferson and Washington, both slave owners, have been heavily questioned in the recent anti-racism campaign, and even Lincoln's position on slavery is regarded as complicated.

Roosevelt was a lifelong and prodigious hunter, but also strongly acknowledged the need for conservation and indeed came to symbolise the birth of the movement.

He was also a big believer in expanding US power abroad, with strong interventionist policies.
With memorable quotes like "'speak softly and carry a big stick", it was perhaps not surprising that he took a leading role in the movie Night at the Museum, in the hands of Robin Williams.
 
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Theodore Roosevelt statue to be removed by New York museum

View attachment 13041


A bronze statue of former US President Theodore Roosevelt is to be removed amid an ongoing backlash against symbols of racial bias and imperialism.
The statue outside the American Museum of Natural History in New York shows Roosevelt on horseback flanked by a Native American man and an African man.
A great-grandson of the president agreed with the removal, saying it did not reflect Roosevelt's legacy.
But President Donald Trump tweeted: "Ridiculous, don't do it!"

There has been a heated debate in the United States over the appropriateness of certain statues and commemorations since the death in police custody of African American George Floyd.

Symbols linked to the US Confederacy, which supported slavery, have been particularly targeted in the US.
Monuments to Christopher Columbus, the 15th Century explorer whose voyages on behalf of Spain opened the way for the European colonisation of the Americas, have also been criticised in the US as symbols of imperialism.
But the anti-statue campaign, arising from the Black Lives Matter movement, has spread globally, with monuments targeted in a number of countries.


What's behind the museum's decision?

The statue has stood outside the museum's Central Park West entrance since 1940.

Mayor Bill de Blasio said on Sunday: "The museum has asked to remove the Theodore Roosevelt statue because it explicitly depicts black and indigenous people as subjugated and racially inferior."

He said he backed the decision, adding it was "the right time to remove this problematic statue".

The museum's president, Ellen Futter, said the world had become focused on "statues as powerful and hurtful symbols of systemic racism".
She said the decision was based on the composition of the statue and not on Roosevelt, whom the museum would continue to honour.
A great-grandson of the former president, Theodore Roosevelt IV, told the New York Times: "The composition of the equestrian statue does not reflect Theodore Roosevelt's legacy. It is time to move the statue and move forward."

Activists opposed to symbols of colonial expansion and racial discrimination have wanted the statue removed for many years.

President Trump did not agree, tweeting his opposition early on Monday:
Twitter post by @realDonaldTrump: Ridiculous, don’t do it!

At a rally last week, the president condemned "the unhinged left-wing mob trying to vandalise our history, desecrate our monuments".
It has not yet been announced what will happen to the statue.

Who was Theodore Roosevelt?

The Republican was one of the more flamboyant and commemorated of the country's presidents, serving two terms from 1901 to 1909, and is often ranked in the top five in terms of achievement.

But there is no doubt his legacy is complex - a man who won widespread praise for proposals that led towards a welfare state, while also having a deeply troubling advocacy of eugenics.

"Teddy", as he is known, is one of the four faces on the famous Mount Rushmore monument, where he joins Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson and George

View attachment 13043
Roosevelt wedges his moustache in between Jefferson and Lincoln


The legacies of Jefferson and Washington, both slave owners, have been heavily questioned in the recent anti-racism campaign, and even Lincoln's position on slavery is regarded as complicated.

Roosevelt was a lifelong and prodigious hunter, but also strongly acknowledged the need for conservation and indeed came to symbolise the birth of the movement.

He was also a big believer in expanding US power abroad, with strong interventionist policies.
With memorable quotes like "'speak softly and carry a big stick", it was perhaps not surprising that he took a leading role in the movie Night at the Museum, in the hands of Robin Williams.

I agree with the Roosevelt statue removal. Its not about the way it shows portrays Roosevelt but the way it portrays Black and indigenous people. There was one taken down last week of Lincoln that I agree with for the same reason. They should be replaced by different statues of Roosevelt and Lincoln.

Taking down Washington and Grant should get someone shot.
 
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Why has it got to insinuate that the black fella & the Indian bloke are subjugated to Roosevelt?

perhaps it’s just an indication that they are all walking along together & Theodore is just a lazy fucker & he needs a horse.
 
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I agree with the Roosevelt statue removal. Its not about the way it shows portrays Roosevelt but the way it portrays Black and indigenous people. There was one taken down last week of Lincoln that I agree with for the same reason. They should be replaced by different statues of Roosevelt and Lincoln.

Taking down Washington and Grant should get someone shot.
I suppose it’s better than being ripped down by a mob, but could they not have removed the offensive characters?

I’m all for statue remove, if that’s what the majority want. I’m just against mob rule, faux offence and knee-jerk over-reactions.