Star Trek, the return of Picard...

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Hmm I don't recall when it suggested she was a Klingon, which episode was that? If anything she seemed more Ferengi in nature with her desire for profit.

As for not being a part of the federation, well she was kind of, she was a former member of the Daystrom institute and in her second appearance in TNG she was attended the annual Federation of Archaeology Council symposium, so clearly her ties to the federation were to completely cut.

It's clear the idea that not all of humanity lived without the desire for money and not everyone had the same level of lifestyle even within the Federation.
Also the Federation was not a closed borders communist state. When Picard and co went outside, how did they trade, if federation citizens visit bajor, how do they pay there?

It's a silly point to get stuck on any way, I think some people are just triggered that a black person was angry at Picard

I've got news for them

 
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Equally may have been the worng description but Raffi basicaly commented negatively on his privilage. Thats not behaviour you are meant to witness within the Fedaration. It wouldn't make sense to explore how things worked without currency so it was rightly glossed over for the sake of presenting the vison in Rodenburys head.
Technically she was kicked out of the Federation and maybe once out and with no clear purpose/job that meant she couldn't claim whatever benefits were being provided to the vast majority of humans on earth. Maybe the federations version of Universal Credit lol. As long as you are working as part of the system either to better humanity or sustain it then you get all your basics looked after such as food, accommodation, healthcare, etc. But with Raffi outside of the federation, with a substance abuse problem was left outside the system and forced to subsist in her little shack in the desert.

But it's something that wasn't made clear and so you could argue that it's a flaw in the writing, it's a minor point though.
 

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Also the Federation was not a closed borders communist state. When Picard and co went outside, how did they trade, if federation citizens visit bajor, how do they pay there?

It's a silly point to get stuck on any way, I think some people are just triggered that a black person was angry at Picard

I've got news for them

You haven't been paying attention. The ludicrous set-up for Raffi being angry at Picard was the issue. It made no sense and i don't believe you're educated enough to see through the scene or understand how bad the writing was.
 

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You haven't been paying attention. The ludicrous set-up for Raffi being angry at Picard was the issue. It made no sense and i don't believe you're educated enough to see through the scene or understand how bad the writing was.
Oh that old one, I'm too stupid to understand.
 

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Also the Federation was not a closed borders communist state. When Picard and co went outside, how did they trade, if federation citizens visit bajor, how do they pay there?

It's a silly point to get stuck on any way, I think some people are just triggered that a black person was angry at Picard

I've got news for them

Sisko was always a tard...
 
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I wouldn't pay Doomcock any heed, he's trapped in the center of the earth and thus of no consequence.

Hold on, there's a knock at my door........
He's good but occasionally just hates for the sake of hating. :IE viewing numbers. Which makes his criticism a little....ahem......hypocritical lol
 
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Can someone explain to me....why the Romulans have a View cube and are allowing contractors from all over the galaxy, specifically humans, to work there.

And the Romulans don't even feel like Romulans anymore. But that's my minor gripe.
 
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Can someone explain to me....why the Romulans have a View cube and are allowing contractors from all over the galaxy, specifically humans, to work there.

And the Romulans don't even feel like Romulans anymore. But that's my minor gripe.
From what I could gather they are salvaging tech from the cube. I guess once their civilisation was basically destroyed they've had to become scavengers to survive. Something as cataclysmic as your world being destroyed will change your society some what.

It's clearly influenced by the story line of the 2009 film where Romulus is destroyed by a supernova. Not sure of the time line of that because obviously Kirk and Spock were involved in that which was way before Picard's time, so if it's not related to that, they've basically stolen the plot from the film and run with it which seems a bit lame.
 
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From what I could gather they are salvaging tech from the cube. I guess once their civilisation was basically destroyed they've had to become scavengers to survive. Something as cataclysmic as your world being destroyed will change your society some what.

It's clearly influenced by the story line of the 2009 film where Romulus is destroyed by a supernova. Not sure of the time line of that because obviously Kirk and Spock were involved in that which was way before Picard's time, so if it's not related to that, they've basically stolen the plot from the film and run with it which seems a bit lame.
In star trek 2009 Romulus was destroyed in the prime timeline (which Picard is set in), old Spock went back in time like 100 years, a new timeline was created starting from when old Spock arrived in the past and different shit happened.

Picard is a continuation after Romulus was destroyed, the 2009 movie series is like a weird prequel 100 years before Romulus was destroyed, but still connected to the prime timeline by "prime Spock" being in it.

I tried my best to explain that
 
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From what I could gather they are salvaging tech from the cube. I guess once their civilisation was basically destroyed they've had to become scavengers to survive. Something as cataclysmic as your world being destroyed will change your society some what.

It's clearly influenced by the story line of the 2009 film where Romulus is destroyed by a supernova. Not sure of the time line of that because obviously Kirk and Spock were involved in that which was way before Picard's time, so if it's not related to that, they've basically stolen the plot from the film and run with it which seems a bit lame.
The romulan star going supernova triggered some time travel shit and also some multiverse shit.

So the star was destroyed the "prime time line" that picard...next gen...and the orginal show took place in.

But it also destroyed the romulan star in kirk's time.

But this did not cause any paradoxes because it was an alternative separate time line...so essentially another universe that was actually the same until that point but then diverged.
 

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The romulan star going supernova triggered some time travel shit and also some multiverse shit.

So the star was destroyed the "prime time line" that picard...next gen...and the orginal show took place in.

But it also destroyed the romulan star in kirk's time.

But this did not cause any paradoxes because it was an alternative separate time line...so essentially another universe that was actually the same until that point but then diverged.
Correct but Romulus has not been destroyed in the 2009 star trek series, at least not yet.

Vulcan was destroyed by Nero though, and in the prime timeline that never happened so that's a huge divergence
 
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Correct but Romulus has not been destroyed in the 2009 star trek series, at least not yet.

Vulcan was destroyed by Nero though, and in the prime timeline that never happened so that's a huge divergence
Yeah that's right....
 
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From what I could gather they are salvaging tech from the cube. I guess once their civilisation was basically destroyed they've had to become scavengers to survive. Something as cataclysmic as your world being destroyed will change your society some what.

It's clearly influenced by the story line of the 2009 film where Romulus is destroyed by a supernova. Not sure of the time line of that because obviously Kirk and Spock were involved in that which was way before Picard's time, so if it's not related to that, they've basically stolen the plot from the film and run with it which seems a bit lame.
I thought that too. But still feels off given how xenophobic they were. Plus they were an empire so even if their planet died there should still be millions or billion alive.

But I know I know...for the narrative it works ;)
 
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Correct but Romulus has not been destroyed in the 2009 star trek series, at least not yet.

Vulcan was destroyed by Nero though, and in the prime timeline that never happened so that's a huge divergence
Hold on hold on....in the Kelvin timeline, in the 2009 movies romulas was destroyed and Nero then destroyed Vulcan. This is a timeline separate to Picard/TNG.

Now in TNG Romulas was also destroyed.

I've heard murmurs they want to bridge the timelines somehow. I've also read this Picard series ties into Discovery which though not confined appears to be in the TNG timeline .


Then again the writers could be making this shit up as they go along now. Bad Robot (aka JJ Abrams) is known for making series with gaping plot holes ignored for his narrative.

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In star trek 2009 Romulus was destroyed in the prime timeline (which Picard is set in), old Spock went back in time like 100 years, a new timeline was created starting from when old Spock arrived in the past and different shit happened.

Picard is a continuation after Romulus was destroyed, the 2009 movie series is like a weird prequel 100 years before Romulus was destroyed, but still connected to the prime timeline by "prime Spock" being in it.

I tried my best to explain that
Oh yeah I'd forgotten Spock had travelled back in time, been ages since I've watched it, that makes more sense now.
 
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Wiped out species for lolz? Is this a joke? They assimilated species to perfect the life of the universe. That is a noble goal. It is what we do when we give people eyeglasses and artificial hips and equip them with Wi-Fi and cell phones. We're not killing those people. We're making them better. When we assimilated Hawaii, it didn't kill all the Hawaiians. The ones who wanted to be better were brought into the fold and enrich us to this day. Western culture is like the Borg in this way and our goals have always been to make all life better by assimilating it. Not for "lolz" but for progress. And that is true progressivism. The Borg are the most noble and non-genocidal people of the entire program.
Actually, I think The Borg were more akin to Catholicism.