Strange case of Wilders skinny legs

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I cant remember a top ten heavyweight with legs as skinny as Wilders. If anything since Scott started coaching him Wilders legs have decided go on an even greater crash diet.

I am not sure he will be able to hold a shot next time he gets clocked on the chin.Surprised no one on his team has brought in a proper conditioning coach to address this.
 
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Even Michael Spinks and Michael Moorer who both moved up from Light Heavyweight. Had more muscle on their legs.

Then again Michael Spinks worked with the legendary duo of Eddie Futch and Georgie Benton. Who brought in the legendary conditioning coach Mackie Shilstone.

And Moorer had Manny Steward and Then Teddy Atlas coaching him. Both guys who were meticulous when it came to ironing out such problems.

Wilder has only had a bunch of yes men. Who are only there for a paycheck.
 
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Yep. I bet Pacquaio has bigger calves than Wilder. If this 3rd Fury fight eventually comes around, I say Fury KO's Wilder even quicker.
 
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Yep. I bet Pacquaio has bigger calves than Wilder. If this 3rd Fury fight eventually comes around, I say Fury KO's Wilder even quicker.
Agree! I say with these Ultra skinny legs he has now. He better not wear any heavy suit otherwise he will collapse before he can make it to the ring...lol.
 
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It's really amazing that nobody has ever really tried to put it on Wilder prior to Fury, instead almost every opponent he has had has tap danced at distance content to just touch him up with pitty pat jabs and let him throw his right hand 75 times until it lands.

Even look at what canelo did to Smith just destroying his arm, why hasn't anyone ever targeted wilders right arm before. If you bruise his arm up and it goes dead, that's him out of the fight mate.

The man isn't built to be in a tough brawl type situation, at 6'7" 220lbs he has barely any ballast to him, a stiff breeze would blow him away

Oh actually I know why none of them did any of the above it's because all of them were bums.
 
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True, Breazeale has much bigger legs, let's take a closer look

Its not about Breazeale.
Manny Steward had Lennox Lewis deliberately lean on his opponents in clinches. This was done to take the strength away from the opponents legs and make their legs feel tired and weak. Given that Fury is trained by Sugarhill Steward a protege of Manny there is no doubt in my mind he will have Fury doing the same thing.

This is the value of having a veteran coach who has served a long apprenticeship. Speaking of veteran coaches Freddie Roach for example does not like his fighters to be top heavy as he calls it. That is he likes his fighters to be heavier in the legs and lower torso. Simple reason being in boxing balance is king the stronger the legs throughout the fight the better the balance and better the endurance will be.

Wilder has now been exposed and as the old school coaching principle goes, you take away the opponents legs you take him out of the fight.

From now on none of Wilders opponents are going to allow him to stand at midrange and tee off. They will get up close and personal and tire out his chicken legs.
 
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Its not about Breazeale.
Manny Steward had Lennox Lewis deliberately lean on his opponents in clinches. This was done to take the strength away from the opponents legs and make their legs feel tired and weak. Given that Fury is trained by Sugarhill Steward a protege of Manny there is no doubt in my mind he will have Fury doing the same thing.

This is the value of having a veteran coach who has served a long apprenticeship. Speaking of veteran coaches Freddie Roach for example does not like his fighters to be top heavy as he calls it. That is he likes his fighters to be heavier in the legs and lower torso. Simple reason being in boxing balance is king the stronger the legs throughout the fight the better the balance and better the endurance will be.

Wilder has now been exposed and as the old school coaching principle goes, you take away the opponents legs you take him out of the fight.

From now on none of Wilders opponents are going to allow him to stand at midrange and tee off. They will get up close and personal and tire out his chicken legs.
Well my point is skinny legs doesn't necessarily mean weak legs. He put Fury on the canvas twice and he's the heaviest of them all, you can't generate that kind of power without good legs, I'm just saying the appearance of the legs and the ability of the legs aren't always correllated. He could do nothing but legs for a whole camp and we might not notice any difference in size, you can't change genetics.
 
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Something about calves. You either have them or you don't. I remember they had a promotion with measurements for Wilder/Stiverne. Stiverne's arms were bigger than Wilder's legs. Not even calves... entire fucking thigh, IIRC!
 
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Its crazy Wilder is learning all the basics if he stays training through until October who knows what will happen, never seen Wilder throw combinations its amazing to see lol
 

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Wilders legs are skinnier than mine and I do zero leg exercise outside walking 25mi a week, I would expect a HW champ to be do some leg work even if it's no the priority! Surely anyone who fights him is trained to clinch and lean their weight especially the big guys like Fury/AJ etc. Anyone 16st+ should get a good benefit out of that.
 
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Something about calves. You either have them or you don't. I remember they had a promotion with measurements for Wilder/Stiverne. Stiverne's arms were bigger than Wilder's legs. Not even calves... entire fucking thigh, IIRC!
You can build em up, they're just neglected most of the time. When I got out of basic training, my calves were huge from all the running
 
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Top scientists throughout the world have done exhaustive research on Wilder's legs.
Last week, after a 5-year intensive study, they have finally amassed & analyzed all of their data & come to a conclusion:


Deontay Wilder is part turkey.
 
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Wilder generates a lot of his power through his length of body, not from the ground up like guys like Marciano, Liston, Shavers, etc. who relied on coming from the ground up with their power.

It is a well know fact that punching power is enhanced if you have a good base to start from by pivoting on the balls of your feet, getting your hips and torso involved in generating the power behind your punches.

That's why arm punchers are pretty much known as feather-fisted types.
 
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Wilder generates a lot of his power through his length of body, not from the ground up like guys like Marciano, Liston, Shavers, etc. who relied on coming from the ground up with their power.

It is a well know fact that punching power is enhanced if you have a good base to start from by pivoting on the balls of your feet, getting your hips and torso involved in generating the power behind your punches.

That's why arm punchers are pretty much known as feather-fisted types.
In addition to the above, Manny Steward believed punching through the opponent rather then at the opponent was important. Also tightening the grip of the hand and closing the fist as firmly as possible right on impact when you throw a punch. In particular the straight right.

Boxing monthly years ago had an article in which they mentioned how Mark Breland learnt and practiced throwing that right hand at the Kronk alongside and with the help of Tommy Hearns. And then taught it to Wilder.

The bio-mechanics involved when throwing a hook or uppercut would be different to the straight right.

Ultimately the raw ingredients of punching power just like lightning speed, and an iron chin are something you naturally have. Training and delivery just enhance them..
 
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Well my point is skinny legs doesn't necessarily mean weak legs. He put Fury on the canvas twice and he's the heaviest of them all, you can't generate that kind of power without good legs, I'm just saying the appearance of the legs and the ability of the legs aren't always correllated. He could do nothing but legs for a whole camp and we might not notice any difference in size, you can't change genetics.

The ultimate question is will the legs of Wilder hold up. If a 300lb Fury keeps initiating clinches and leaning on him with all that weight behind him.?

Just a miscellaneous point, Lennox Lewis and both the Klitschko brothers who were close to Wilders height all weighed around the 245lb mark when they reached the age of 30 plus.

Whilst Wilder has been weighing a few pounds less then a prime Mike Tyson for most of his recent fights.

The 80 to 90 lb weight difference against Fury could have a major impact in the rubber match.
 
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The ultimate question is will the legs of Wilder hold up. If a 300lb Fury keeps initiating clinches and leaning on him with all that weight behind him.?

Just a miscellaneous point, Lennox Lewis and both the Klitschko brothers who were close to Wilders height all weighed around the 245lb mark when they reached the age of 30 plus.

Whilst Wilder has been weighing a few pounds less then a prime Mike Tyson for most of his recent fights.

The 80 to 90 lb weight difference against Fury could have a major impact in the rubber match.
They've held up in two fights already so I don't see any reason why not in the trilogy. There won't be anyone to throw the towel in this time so Fury's going to have to nail him to the canvas. I'm picking Fury whatever his weight and tactics are, no doubt leaning all over the smaller man will have a positive impact for him but first he has to get in range and initiate the clinch, the lighter man might use his legs to stay mobile and off the ropes this time so it's not just about what Fury will do. There was an 80lb difference in the first fight and Wilder heard the final bell, Fury almost didn't.
 
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In addition to the above, Manny Steward believed punching through the opponent rather then at the opponent was important. Also tightening the grip of the hand and closing the fist as firmly as possible right on impact when you throw a punch. In particular the straight right.
Hell, back in the mid 60's when I got into amateur boxing my coach would often preach about punching through a target. He'd say, "If punching at the chin, envision your fist stopping at the back of his head and if going for a liver shot, imagine your fist hitting his backbone."

Another thing he liked us to practice was to slightly twist our wrist when jabbing upon impact. His logic was the leather of the gloves would pull more on the skin and could open cuts. Now this was a time before headgear was used in amateur fights and only used in sparring in the gym and it did work. I once cut a guys forehead with a jab that I twisted on impact.
 
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