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And there you have it! Dominic Thiem picks up his first gram slam by 2/6 4/6 6/4 6/3 7/6 (8-6).

Dang it never was top quality, but turned out quite dramatic. Good job on both, but Zverev will be maaad he failed to convert 2 sets and at some point serving for it.
 

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That was a strange final. Average final is probably being kind but it was very watchable in ways, seeing the fluctuations in their levels throughout, the nerves, the physical side.

Most impressive from Thiem was he went in injured and it affected his confidence he could not find the court but he kept at it. He kept hitting big, he trusted that his game would come to him. When the ball was in neutral he was the one making the play Zverev was just hoping Thiem would self destruct and many times he did.

I like what Zverev did against Thiems slice. His inside in run around forehand was excellent. Need good raquet head speed for this and its not something he is gifted with. I thought he went down the line on both wings really well early doors was trying to outhit Thiem similar to Novak in the first set in AO but almost nobody can do this for long.

Zverevs serve was woeful again. At one point he hit a 68mph 2nd serve that barely got over. He was terrified of having to hit it. Until he can fix that and do something with his forehand hes going to be relying on huge 1st serve %.

The other players will smell the blood in the water with him when it gets tight.

Congrats to Thiem. Injured, game deserted him, nervous, found a way through. US Open champion
 
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Congrats to Thiem. He wasn't anywhere close to the level he found at the AO, but still managed to win the tournament. Zverev did some nice things and showed what he can eventually become, but he essentially choked vs an opponent who hadn't really accomplished anything yet and was trying his hardest to give him the title.

Sky's the limit for Thiem, now. I think that he can win 5-6 slams. His slice backhand is no good, though, and I hadn't really noticed it until this tournament. He has to work on that going forward.
 

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Congrats to Thiem. He wasn't anywhere close to the level he found at the AO, but still managed to win the tournament. Zverev did some nice things and showed what he can eventually become, but he essentially choked vs an opponent who hadn't really accomplished anything yet and was trying his hardest to give him the title.

Sky's the limit for Thiem, now. I think that he can win 5-6 slams. His slice backhand is no good, though, and I hadn't really noticed it until this tournament. He has to work on that going forward.
He sliced cause he couldn't get proper footing under the flat BH from the mid-point of the 5th. He might take some injury time off now, but if he doesn't, I think Fed's out, Novak rattled and Nadal is simply not match tested, so Dominic might just grab no 1. He has a slam, a slam final and excellent chances on clay.

Zverev has no excuses for the level drop. He was clean and dominant to the point of almost wrapping it in 90 minutes. He clearly did not want a long battle and played a big game, yet he let Thiem back in. Even in the fifth he was clearly fitter and served for it vs. an ailing player (who took the injury timeout before himself serving for it), and couldn't finish him off.
 

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He sliced cause he couldn't get proper footing under the flat BH from the mid-point of the 5th. He might take some injury time off now, but if he doesn't, I think Fed's out, Novak rattled and Nadal is simply not match tested, so Dominic might just grab no 1. He has a slam, a slam final and excellent chances on clay.

Zverev has no excuses for the level drop. He was clean and dominant to the point of almost wrapping it in 90 minutes. He clearly did not want a long battle and played a big game, yet he let Thiem back in. Even in the fifth he was clearly fitter and served for it vs. an ailing player (who took the injury timeout before himself serving for it), and couldn't finish him off.
His slice sort of lands in the same area of the court each time and just sits up there to be hammered. He can't drop it short, hit it deep, or make it stay low like Fed can. Hell, Rafa and Novak also play the slice better... the setup is just weird and telegraphed.

If Sasha had a reliable forehand up the line, Thiem would have had no chance. He's going to have to fix that shot because there are going to be times when he'll need to rely on it. He's a 27 year-old grinder and he's not always going to be feeling his best.

Zverev took his foot off the gas, but I did feel more impressed with him than I thought I would. His volleys have improved exponentially. He did stick a few forehands down the line, and I said a couple of years ago that he is probably the best mover I have ever seen at his size on the tennis court. He's pretty close to where he needs to be, and his success thus far makes a lot more sense to me today than it did yesterday.
 

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His slice sort of lands in the same area of the court each time and just sits up there to be hammered. He can't drop it short, hit it deep, or make it stay low like Fed can. Hell, Rafa and Novak also play the slice better... the setup is just weird and telegraphed.
No argument but then again: when that slice was on display, Thiem's legs were goners, and so was his technique. He has more potent flat and spin backhand obviously to not need the slice, but he needed it yesterday, and ur right: Sacha should've punished it. But then he had some mileage on his legs as well...good thing it turned to fight from mismatch, except for, you know, if you are Sacha Zverev. :lol:

Anyways, Rafa and Nole on court this week in Rome... the Italians love Nole but lets see how they rea... wait fuck... no crowds?
 

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Seems Naomi had picked herself up a classy fella. I hope this thing was shopped.
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Nah it wasn't, this Japanese girl's been playin' by the Serena book, and now she takes it seriously. Wonder she'll ever comment on her record-breaking Nike sponsorship and all the clothes being made by Uighur slave labor, or her social warrior stance doesn't go so far to pissing where her money comes from.