~ TENNIS - Rafa Nadal & Bianca Andreescu: US Open Champions ~

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Guy can't play off clay apparently, but finishes this decade with the most wins at the US Open...
 

steviebruno

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Yes, he'll probably beat his GS record, but it's not certain.


There's always the possibility of the next ATG bursting on the scene.....maybe even Med.
It's pretty much a certainty, IMO. In all likelihood, he wins Paris again next year. That's 20. He's also quite formiddable everywhere else and could conceivably take one of the hardcourt slams (he has more US open titles than Djokovic).

Fed has two great years left, I think, and could conceivably not win a thing as he'll likely have to get through Rafa AND Novak each time, as he is pretty much stuck at number 3.
 
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Setanta

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Fed has two great years left, I think, and could conceivably not win a thing as he'll likely have to get through Rafa AND Novak each time, as he is pretty much stuck at number 3.
Fed beat Rafa at Wimbledon came within ONE point of beating Novak.

He can still beat either one.
 

Hoshi

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What a final. Unreal. Won't forget that in a hurry. Both players.

Medvedev this summer. Washington final, Montreal final, Cinci final, New York final.

Medvedev when the match was leaving him changed his game drastically. He canhit deep consistent shots and is an intelligen tplayer but without weapons Rafa was just turning the point around so he decides to develop a transition game on the fly? Came to net combined with Rafa around 41% of the points and backed up his solid approach work.

Rafa... what more can be said. Plays so tight now in big moments because the pressure of history has been getting greater the past few years. But win or lose he will not quit, searches for a way. You can only be brave when you are scared.

#19 Majors. His 4th US Open in an era of the two greatest hardcourt players ever beating prime Novak for two of them. Incredible.

What a fighter!!!!!!!!


 
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What a champ! And grabbing that number 1 spot is a formality considering how much Nole defends and how much Rafa can gain.

So back to our earlier conversation, the crown. No not that one :lol: The World Tour Finals: the Big Three are now tied with 54 big titles each, 20-19-16 slams, 6-0-5 ATP WTFs, 28-33-35 Masters. IMO Rafa can and now it's likely will catch Federer, but for the GOAT conversation he could really do with completing his collection come november.

This is PERFECT timing: he's clearly in the best physical from between the big boys and the kind of aggression he tried but didn't quite succeeded vs. Nole earlier this year was working like a charm in Canada and New York. So this is his time to make history in London, and chances are great that he will. What do you think?
 
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Hoshi

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After injury forced him to close his season down after the US Open last year when he looked quite likely to finish number 1 he is within striking distance of it again. Way ahead in the race and just 600 points behind in the live rankings. Nadal is getting married soon though so he may not chase it.

I think Rafa is closer to the end than people realise. What a career he has had. Biggest heart in sport.
 
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What a champ! And grabbing that number 1 spot is a formality considering how much Nole defends and how much Rafa can gain.

So back to our earlier conversation, the crown. No not that one :lol: The World Tour Finals: the Big Three are now tied with 54 big titles each, 20-19-16 slams, 6-0-5 ATP WTFs, 28-33-35 Masters. IMO Rafa can and now it's likely will catch Federer, but for the GOAT conversation he could really do with completing his collection come november.

This is PERFECT timing: he's clearly in the best physical from between the big boys and the kind of aggression he tried but didn't quite succeeded vs. Nole earlier this year was working like a charm in Canada and New York. So this is his time to make history in London, and chances are great that he will. What do you think?
You're forgetting Nadal has olympic gold too.
 
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The fall off of Federer winning titles once he had proper competition is quite shocking.

He had 16 masters titles by 2009. He's won 12 in 10 years since.

He had 15 grand slams by 2019. He's won 5 in 10 years since.

Hasn't won an end of year finals since 2011.


In that 10 year period, he's won 3 slams on hard courts. Nadal has won 5 on hard courts in the same time. One of them is supposed to be a hard court master and the other is only good on clay??
 

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The fall off of Federer winning titles once he had proper competition is quite shocking.

He had 16 masters titles by 2009. He's won 12 in 10 years since.

He had 15 grand slams by 2019. He's won 5 in 10 years since.

Hasn't won an end of year finals since 2011.


In that 10 year period, he's won 3 slams on hard courts. Nadal has won 5 on hard courts in the same time. One of them is supposed to be a hard court master and the other is only good on clay??
By 'proper competition', you mean two top 3 ATGs who happen to 5-6 years younger than he is, right?

Roger Federer shouldn't even be competing for Slams anymore in any realistic world. He's playing now because he's still good, and to protect his GS record. It's just a shame that the last two generations have done absolutely nothing to keep Rafa and Novak from gobbling up Slams.

What he's still able to do now, though, should give you an idea as to how great he actually was.
 
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