The Authentic Official Robert "The Reaper" Whittaker Undefeated, Undisputed Middleweight Champion / General MMA Thread

Who do you WANT to win? (Not who do you think WILL win)

  • I want the Fighting Irish to win

  • I want the 209 to represent again

  • I just want a good, action-packed fight like the last one

  • Test to see if I can change the poll?

  • Are these options 4 and 5?


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Haggis

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Not so much hype for this one, pretty much because Conor has mostly stayed out of the media, hasn't run his mouth NEARLY so much, and in general has toned down the circus. Guess that's what happens when you get choked out by a late-notice opponent. :lol:

But it's still a big fight. Any of you casuals planning on watching it? If so, who are you cheering for - and who do you think will win?

I'm cheering for Conor, but not by much. I am confident that Nate will win, and would regard a MacGregor win as a significant upset. If Diaz wins, that's fine by me. Either way, I can't see this fight being anything other than exciting, action-packed, and finishing in a stoppage.

Thoughts from the casuals?

Press conference brawl - 20:21


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May 21, 2013
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Hmm. To be fair, Connor hyped the shit out of UFC 200, but didn't get his way.. not heard hardly a peep out of this one. Didn't know it was this weekend.

The problem last time, McGregor didn't fight smart and gassed. If he fights smarter, he should take it imo.
 
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I'd say McGregor in this one more than likely. He has had more time to get to the weight and is more comfortable at it, will prepare with better cardio I'd imagine, and he was pretty much having his way with Diaz early in the first fight with better striking ability and he was busting Nate up. I say McGregor by UD.
 

Haggis

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I'd say McGregor in this one more than likely. He has had more time to get to the weight and is more comfortable at it, will prepare with better cardio I'd imagine, and he was pretty much having his way with Diaz early in the first fight with better striking ability and he was busting Nate up. I say McGregor by UD.
Worth considering that Conor has never gone 5 rounds before. In fact, he's never had a fight that's gone for longer than 10 minutes, and now he's facing a naturally bigger guy with an iron chin, a rock-solid fighting mentality, and who is a cardio machine who is fully capable of keeping a high workrate for 25 minutes.

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Joe

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I think Conor will win, he went up too much in weight too fast last time and he knows it aswell that's why he wanted this extra time to get used to the weight and still have cardio to fight in it, that's not a guarantee to win of course but he won't lose cause he gasses this time and looking at the first fight he was beating Nate up if he'd had more stamina he probably would have stopped him.

I vote Conor by KO actually.
 
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Worth considering that Conor has never gone 5 rounds before. In fact, he's never had a fight that's gone for longer than 10 minutes, and now he's facing a naturally bigger guy with an iron chin, a rock-solid fighting mentality, and who is a cardio machine who is fully capable of keeping a high workrate for 25 minutes.

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All valid points about Diaz being the bigger guy and a cardio machine. Anybody that trains for triathlons has to be a cardio machine.

I just dislike both the Diaz brothers with Nick taking top honors in that category, but I don't particularly find McGregor much more likeable with his in your face, bragging and taunting, but he is just a bit more likeable than Nate in my eye, so I'm pulling for the Irishman.
 
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Part of me wants Conor to win. I think it makes things a lot more interesting to have him on a winning streak, and can hopefully motivate other to rise to the occasion and give us more than one superstar.

The other part of me hates the idiot McGregor fans (not all of them are idiots) and I just want to see them proven wrong.

I think McGregor gets smashed again. Nate is a terrible match up for him stylistically. He doesn't have the cardio to match Nate in the later rounds, so I can't see him winning a decision. I also don't think he can do enough cumulative damage without gassing, and he's not going to starch him with one shot unless Nates chin has completely abandoned him between the first fight and this one.
 

rjjfan

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Conor winning is better for MMA.

I like both guys but I like Nate, who has every right to be cocky coming into this fight but isn't, giving every indication that he knows this will be another hard fight and he will need to dig deep to win.

If this fight goes beyond 2 rounds Nate wins.
 

Haggis

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I'm not sure what to make of Conor's demeanour. I've used the phrase "whipped dog" to describe it, and I still think that fits. Seems like every photo I've seen since their fight he's got a long face and negative body language - not at all the confident guy that he was a few months ago. Which could be a good sign, if he has quit sniffing his own farts and gotten serious. Or maybe Nate just broke him. Either way, Nate remains a horrific style matchup for him.

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All this talk of Conor getting better and more accustomed to the weight etc etc....

What about Nate? is it unforeseeable that he gets better as well?
Wasn't it only like 2 weeks notice he got before and he still pulled off the upset.

Even if he was in reasonable shape before the 2 week call up for Conor this time he has the benefit of months of training knowing he's specifically targeting Conor. Plus has the added bonus of knowing what Conor brings to the table in some way before Conor gassed.
 
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Man, Conor has some balls for going right after Diaz. Anyways, I think Conor wins. Conor, though, has been talking shit, like usual. He got everyone mad with his WWE comment IIRC. I was hearing interviews on wrestler's podcast about it. Not sure if this is old news, though.
 

Haggis

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Man, Conor has some balls for going right after Diaz.
I'm nowhere near his biggest fan, but I will always respect the guy. He's a REAL fighter. I couldn't stand it when boxing wankers talked shit about him after losing to Nate the first time around. Give me the name of a single high-profile boxer who would go anywhere NEAR an opponent of Diaz' calibre on 11 days notice to start with - let alone change the weight class and jump up FIFTEEN extra pounds at the last minute so that his naturally much bigger opponent wouldn't be forced to drain himself to make 155 and could fight comfortably at 170 instead.

But Conor is more than willing to run his mouth and then do everything he can to back it up. He's shown that repeatedly. And when the cage door closes, Conor fights aggressively, always looking to finish. He's a kill or be killed kind of guy who isn't afraid to put himself RIGHT out there and risk being humiliated, and I love that. He also handled the defeat well, made no excuses and went right out of his way to make the immediate rematch. Most fighters would have run away from a Diaz rematch and blamed Diaz' size for the loss - Conor wouldn't accept anything other than another chance to get in there with him and change the outcome.

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Mat Cauthon

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Connor will once again go for a panic takedown and Diaz will cut through him like butter, exposing McGregor 's non existent ground game.

It might take an extra round than it did before but the results will be the same.
 

Haggis

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Connor will once again go for a panic takedown and Diaz will cut through him like butter, exposing McGregor 's non existent ground game.

It might take an extra round than it did before but the results will be the same.
No grounds to call his ground game "non existent." Nate choked him out, sure. What does that tell us? Nothing. Conor was exhausted and badly hurt, and Nate..... oh yeah, Nate has the most submissions in UFC history. (Tied with Royce Gracie, who mostly submitted guys who literally had no idea what a kimura was.)

Other than that, I'll wait until I see him in trouble against someone with fewer than double-digit submission wins in the UFC before I call his ground game "non-existent." Diaz didn't exactly "cut through him like butter" the first time he had MacGregor on the ground, when Conor was fresh. :good

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