The Authentic Official Robert "The Reaper" Whittaker Undefeated, Undisputed Middleweight Champion / General MMA Thread

Who do you WANT to win? (Not who do you think WILL win)

  • I want the Fighting Irish to win

  • I want the 209 to represent again

  • I just want a good, action-packed fight like the last one

  • Test to see if I can change the poll?

  • Are these options 4 and 5?


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So, Firas Zahabi said he thinks Holloway would beat McGregor today if they fought, McGregor didn´t like and said that since Firas never fought MMA he should shut up.
Good video by Luke, he is 100% right.

 
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And btw, I don´t like what the UFC is doing with their broadcasting, they fired Jimmy Smith and they intent to have Joe Rogan as the only non-former fighter in their roster for broadcasting, it will be 100% former or even current fighters (UFC fighters) comentating.
 
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And btw, I don´t like what the UFC is doing with their broadcasting, they fired Jimmy Smith and they intent to have Joe Rogan as the only non-former fighter in their roster for broadcasting, it will be 100% former or even current fighters (UFC fighters) comentating.
I dunno if they just think that DC and Cruz being good at it means that fighters are the way to go. Or if they figure that former fighters will be less likely to negotiate effectively. I'm not sure what is going on. It certainly doesn't add legitimacy at this stage. Not to mention, Smith has fought before.
 
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I dunno if they just think that DC and Cruz being good at it means that fighters are the way to go. Or if they figure that former fighters will be less likely to negotiate effectively. I'm not sure what is going on. It certainly doesn't add legitimacy at this stage. Not to mention, Smith has fought before.
I watched Jimmy Smith interview on the subject and he thinks it´s a way of keeping the fighters well behaved.
I mean, after their careers, which is a short one, fighters really are lost, even if they saved money (a few on top) it´s a lot of years ahead on your life, you gotta have a job after that first career.
I think the UFC just want to make the figthers realize that they can work for the UFC after and that way keep them behaved towards the bosses.
"listen, if you are a good boy we can get you a job after your body falls out."
 
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I watched Jimmy Smith interview on the subject and he thinks it´s a way of keeping the fighters well behaved.
I mean, after their careers, which is a short one, fighters really are lost, even if they saved money (a few on top) it´s a lot of years ahead on your life, you gotta have a job after that first career.
I think the UFC just want to make the figthers realize that they can work for the UFC after and that way keep them behaved towards the bosses.
"listen, if you are a good boy we can get you a job after your body falls out."
I..guess? Fighters don't often carry that personality type, from what I understand. That's a long term consequence not seen in immediate reward. The ones who would respond positively to that, are the types that would get involved with that sort of thing anyway, right?
 
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Rewatching some old UFC dvds that I have right now.

UFC Fight Night 1, year 2005 I believe.... fucking hell, some henious striking back then, really bad (after all, the best strikers in those years where in PRIDE, and some good ones, Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Vochanchyn...)

Easy to forget too how less diverse the UFC was back then, basically the card is a bunch of white americans fighting each other.
 
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Rewatching some old UFC dvds that I have right now.

UFC Fight Night 1, year 2005 I believe.... fucking hell, some henious striking back then, really bad (after all, the best strikers in those years where in PRIDE, and some good ones, Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Vochanchyn...)

Easy to forget too how less diverse the UFC was back then, basically the card is a bunch of white americans fighting each other.
It was terrible. It was also amazing. The days with Karo (one of my favorites ever) could toss some of the tops of the division around. It was a different sport. It wasn't as great of a sport, but there were very special moments.
 
Rewatching some old UFC dvds that I have right now.

UFC Fight Night 1, year 2005 I believe.... fucking hell, some henious striking back then, really bad (after all, the best strikers in those years where in PRIDE, and some good ones, Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Vochanchyn...)

Easy to forget too how less diverse the UFC was back then, basically the card is a bunch of white americans fighting each other.
UFC fight night card

Nate Marquardt def. Ivan Salaverry

Chris Leben def. Patrick Cote
Stephan Bonnar def. Sam Hoger
Nate Quarry def. Pete Sell
Josh Koscheck def. Pete Spratt
Mike Swick def. Gideon Ray


Two weeks after UFC fight night one PRIDE had Final Conflict 2005

Shogun v Arona
Fedor v Cro Cop
Yoshida v Tank Abott
Werdum v Zentsov
Shogun v Overeem
Arona v Wanderlei
Nakamura v Igor

:lol:

 
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Yeah, we all know PRIDE was shitting all over the UFC back then. But I forgot how bad the UFC used to be... and the UFC had a certain "face" that made it look such a meathead redneck style of sport, this Chris Leben vs Patrick Cote fight is a horrible fight in terms of striking skills and Leben had that look of the white guy that has many tattoos and want to bang like a sloppy street fighter.
 
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It was terrible. It was also amazing. The days with Karo (one of my favorites ever) could toss some of the tops of the division around. It was a different sport. It wasn't as great of a sport, but there were very special moments.
I terms of grappling it was very very cool and interesting to watch, like you said you had a guy like KAro Parisyan with great judo takedows which we don´t really see now.... now it´s all wrestling wrestling wrestling everything is about wrestling...
 
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I terms of grappling it was very very cool and interesting to watch, like you said you had a guy like KAro Parisyan with great judo takedows which we don´t really see now.... now it´s all wrestling wrestling wrestling everything is about wrestling...
Karo had a certain level of dumbass brilliance. That and Gokor's Hastayan system really works if you have a special mind for it like Karo or Ronda. Karo's book on Judo for MMA has some really really cool shit in it that makes adjusting the grips a matter of ease. Anyway, I doubt we will see anything like that again.
 
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Justin vs Barboza is happening. While it is a super fun fight for us, I'm not sure if it is the right fight for either of them. That's a lot of punishment for them both to take. Especially with Justin wanting to win with leg kicks...against Barboza. Let Justin get that match he asked for against Kevin Lee, and give them both a chance to bump back up.
 
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Yeah, we all know PRIDE was shitting all over the UFC back then. But I forgot how bad the UFC used to be... and the UFC had a certain "face" that made it look such a meathead redneck style of sport, this Chris Leben vs Patrick Cote fight is a horrible fight in terms of striking skills and Leben had that look of the white guy that has many tattoos and want to bang like a sloppy street fighter.
I knida love those old school fights though especially in the UFC. Those kinda sloppy fights are great because it's a contest of toughness rather than technique
 
Karo had a certain level of dumbass brilliance. That and Gokor's Hastayan system really works if you have a special mind for it like Karo or Ronda. Karo's book on Judo for MMA has some really really cool shit in it that makes adjusting the grips a matter of ease. Anyway, I doubt we will see anything like that again.
Judo is kinda a dying skill set in MMA sadly.
 
You see a higher focus on good trips and decent throws in the Russian/Eastern bloc fighters due to their love of Judo, but so few ever really figured out how to adapt it. It also presents more risks than freestyle and folkstyle wrestling techniques adapted to MMA.
I think thank Judo needs a relatively short range (arms length) that adding strikes negates. Also wrestlers can take down guys whilst ''shooting'' from a greater distance than a typical Judo guy

But yeah, Karo was awesome