The Brexit Negotiations

If we were to have a 2nd Referendum, how would you vote?


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Clarence Worley

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Actually laughed out loud at that :lol:


Completely fuckin' oblivious, aren't you :lol:
Ive corrected people with facts. Thats not a bias. These are facts.

What is bias is understating figures and frankly lying about events in order to try to 'prove' a point
 
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I've looked into enough to know it fucks your tax haven status up

Not voted on? Again this is basically wrong.

"A separate, complementary measure which creates the basis for the harmonised corporate tax system - the Common Corporate Tax Base - was approved by 451 votes to 141, with 59 abstentions".
Oh you're right, how stupid of me. It's imminent of course, that was the only vote needed.

As for your 'bye bye Amazon' comment earlier, much like your 'bye bye Google, Facebook' comment. What sort of multinational invests 300m euro in a single data centre in 2016 , if they feel they will be massively affected by potential new tax rules? If a company has one eye on the door, they don't invest that sort of money on a single facility (of many).
 

Clarence Worley

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Oh you're right, how stupid of me. It's imminent of course, that was the only vote needed.

As for your 'bye bye Amazon' comment earlier, much like your 'bye bye Google, Facebook' comment. What sort of multinational invests 300m euro in a single data centre in 2016 , if they feel they will be massively affected by potential new tax rules? If a company has one eye on the door, they don't invest that sort of money on a single facility (of many).
You claimed it was not voted on - this is a lie. You claimed its not approved - this is a lie.

probably an organisation that is saving more in tax by doing so
 
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You claimed it was not voted on - this is a lie. You claimed its not approved - this is a lie.

probably an organisation that is saving more in tax by doing so
You think a company that invests billions in facilities in a country will save more on tax in the few years it takes before these CCTB rules come in, then they will if they were just to invest in another country with maybe a tax rate a couple of percentages above?

Explain why Google spend millions insisting on high end specs on their offices? If they just want a tax haven, they would go for low end or middle of the road specs. They wouldn't purchase in the most expensive parts of the city. They wouldn't spend millions developing those sites at a needlessly increased construction cost. They would hire maybe a few hundred people, not 10,000. They wouldn't align themselves and invest in the local universities needlessly.
 

mandela

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have MEPS both voted on and approved what crean has just said they have done neither on? answer yes.

he was lying again.

what will the effects on ireland be? thanks
The answer is No, stupid.

Some preliminary, enablement vote which is probably years and multiple subsequent votes away is not approval in any world other than your deluded fuckin "the EU are all Nazi's" world.

Your own fuckin' post even states it's a "A separate, complementary measure', ya absolute spastic :lol:
 
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The answer is No, stupid.

Some preliminary, enablement vote which is probably years and multiple subsequent votes away is not approval in any world other than your deluded fuckin "the EU are all Nazi's" world.

Your own fuckin' post even states it's a "A separate, complementary measure', ya absolute spastic :lol:
Thanks for answering that for me.

I thought it was obvious.


It's like asking your mates in the pub a show of hands as to who fancies going to the world cup in 2030.

You're not collecting fucking deposits the very next day.
 
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Clarence Worley

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The answer is No, stupid.

Some preliminary, enablement vote which is probably years and multiple subsequent votes away is not approval in any world other than your deluded fuckin "the EU are all Nazi's" world.

Your own fuckin' post even states it's a "A separate, complementary measure', ya absolute spastic :lol:
Yeah ok its not full on what i said but it is clear that MEP's have voted on measures to harmonise tax

Your pedantry notwithstanding
 
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Anyway. I better get back to work. I have some RFI's about work I'm doing on a 200m euro Google redevelopment.
 
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Clarence Worley

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Thanks for answering that for me.

I thought it was obvious.


It's like asking your mates in the pub a show of hands as to who fancies going to the world cup in 2030.

You're not collecting fucking deposits the very next day.
So you will be ok with it when it happens - which will be once they no longer need you to blackmail us
 
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So you will be ok with it when it happens - which will be once they no longer need you to blackmail us
But it's not a 'when', it's an 'If'. An 'If' that will be debated and negotiated on and have man many different iterations before it comes to pass. If it comes to pass.

This is simple stuff man.
 

TFG

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Yeah ok its not full on what i said but it is clear that MEP's have voted on measures to harmonise tax

Your pedantry notwithstanding
So after accusing everyone of being wrong and claiming you were speaking facts, you're actually wrong and not speaking facts? Fucking shocker.

Could you elaborate on the EU becoming insolvent please, though I imagine this 'fact' comes straight from the political editor of the express :lol:
 
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Clarence Worley

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But it's not a 'when', it's an 'If'. An 'If' that will be debated and negotiated on and have man many different iterations before it comes to pass. If it comes to pass.

This is simple stuff man.
Well given the extensive published plans and the agreement in principle i think its very much on the cards.

The “Common Consolidated Corporate Tax Base” (CCCTB) - part of a wide-ranging proposal to create a single, clear and fair EU corporate tax regime - was backed by MEPs on Thursday by 438 votes to 145 votes, with 69 abstentions.
 

Clarence Worley

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So after accusing everyone of being wrong and claiming you were speaking facts, you're actually wrong and not speaking facts? Fucking shocker.

Could you elaborate on the EU becoming insolvent please, though I imagine this 'fact' comes straight from the political editor of the express :lol:
I said his figures were wrong because they are wrong

No i copied part of the text hoping some spastic would bite without due due diligence - mandy obliged

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20180309IPR99422/meps-approve-new-eu-corporate-tax-plan-which-embraces-digital-presence

its clearly on the cards. no question about that

the EU use french accounting policy that means without our contributions they are insolvent - as in they cant meet their commitments and as they are not a real country they cant legally borrow - so germany will have to pay it out - and many there are not happy about this.
 
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In other words you say one thing, do another, then like posts that are blatantly factually wrong.

It wouldnt be so bad if you could drop the sanctimony but, i doubt you can
Eh? What the fuck are you on about now? I never said I was putting you on ignore, I said I would ignore you from now on. YOU referenced me, because you saw me like someone else's post and got annoyed.

I said I would not bother to engage you on this topic, I stuck by it. You threw my name into one of your posts because I agreed with another person's post by way of a "like". :lol:

So I replied to you. I have no desire to waste my time debating the topic with you, as your mind is made up and you are utterly one sided in this. So are lots of Remainers. I wouldn't waste my time trying to persuade them to stop being so black and white either. It's futile.