The Brexit Negotiations

If we were to have a 2nd Referendum, how would you vote?


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Clarence Worley

leaner than mandy...
Nov 19, 2018
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Eh? What the fuck are you on about now? I never said I was putting you on ignore, I said I would ignore you from now on. YOU referenced me, because you saw me like someone else's post and got annoyed.

I said I would not bother to engage you on this topic, I stuck by it. You threw my name into one of your posts because I agreed with another person's post by way of a "like". :lol:

So I replied to you. I have no desire to waste my time debating the topic with you, as your mind is made up and you are utterly one sided in this. So are lots of Remainers. I wouldn't waste my time trying to persuade them to stop being so black and white either. It's futile.
You said i was the closest anyone has ever come to being put on ignore - i was proud of that. Even prouder if you go ahead and do it
 
Jun 4, 2012
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You said i was the closest anyone has ever come to being put on ignore - i was proud of that. Even prouder if you go ahead and do it
Well I am glad to have given you saw bizarre source of pride, but I don't put people on ignore, I just don't bother interacting with them on certain topics or in some cases...at all. You might post on something totally different that I agree with.
 

Clarence Worley

leaner than mandy...
Nov 19, 2018
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Well I am glad to have given you saw bizarre source of pride, but I don't put people on ignore, I just don't bother interacting with them on certain topics or in some cases...at all. You might post on something totally different that I agree with.

fair enough and indeed you have posted things i agreed with and liked (stopped clock etc i assume). :lol::good
 
May 16, 2013
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Remain is 63% now and leave is 37%.

Public perception has shifted now people understand the reality and know what they've actually voted for.

And it's clear the deal is shit and is no benefit to anyone.
People are changing their minds because they are scared by how shit it has all been handled.
 
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Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
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It's pretty obvious now, that with the picture and consequences of a Brexit being more clear to the people, that most would now vote to remain.

It just beggars belief that a second referendum isn't forthcoming.

As it is, it's not a true democratic vote. How can it be argued otherwise?

I find it confusing that leave hardliners would even want to win this way.
If this is the case, and Im not saying it is or it isnt. Why didnt the Remain campaign make this clear as day before the vote?
 
May 19, 2013
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If this is the case, and Im not saying it is or it isnt. Why didnt the Remain campaign make this clear as day before the vote?
I don't think they understood the complexity of it all. If they did, then obviously they would of used it as a legitimate strategy.

Even if they did fully understand how shit this was all going to turn out, I'm not sure they would of been able to adequately explain this to the common voter, pre-Brexit vote.
 

mandela

CHB Führer
May 16, 2013
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I still aint convinced on a re-vote, tbh.

On the one hand I get it.

If you suggest going for a walk through a field then find out the field is actually a mine field you probably wouldn't take the walk.

On the other hand, I'm almost positive that this could've been handled better by more competent people. The idea of not doing something, not because it is fundamentally the right thing to do - which leaving the EU potentially is - but because you simply can't trust the people who are responsible for delivering it is a difficult pill to swallow, for me.

A number of us made the point at the time that leaving the EU could be a positive but absolutely not with the Tories at the helm and unfortunately that's exactly how it has played out.
 

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
19,465
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UK
I don't think they understood the complexity of it all. If they did, then obviously they would of used it as a legitimate strategy.

Even if they did fully understand how shit this was all going to turn out, I'm not sure they would of been able to adequately explain this to the common voter, pre-Brexit vote.
That's a damning indictment of our politicians if thats the case and the people who run the EU (Much less so though, like different planet levels) given they have said they do not want us to leave.
 

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
19,465
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UK
I still aint convinced on a re-vote, tbh.

On the one hand I get it.

If you suggest going for a walk through a field then find out the field is actually a mine field you probably wouldn't take the walk.

On the other hand, I'm almost positive that this could've been handled better by more competent people. The idea of not doing something, not because it is fundamentally the right thing to do - which leaving the EU potentially is - but because you simply can't trust the people who are responsible for delivering it is a difficult pill to swallow, for me.

A number of us made the point at the time that leaving the EU could be a positive but absolutely not with the Tories at the helm and unfortunately that's exactly how it has played out.
Im in the same boat. It may just be me but do all politicians in this country seem incompetent?
 
Jun 3, 2013
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If this is the case, and Im not saying it is or it isnt. Why didnt the Remain campaign make this clear as day before the vote?
Because no one knew what the fuck was gonna happen. That was the only thing that was actually clear, that nothing was gonna be clear and was gonna be one giant cluster fuck.

Still, at least the UK will save 350million also by the way the nazis lost the second world war and we did alright before the EU so we'll do alright after. Something along those lines.
 

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
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Because no one knew what the fuck was gonna happen. That was the only thing that was actually clear, that nothing was gonna be clear and was gonna be one giant cluster fuck.

Still, at least the UK will save 350million also by the way the nazis lost the second world war and we did alright before the EU so we'll do alright after. Something along those lines.
They should have, Cameron and his team should have, its their job at the end of the day.
 
Jun 3, 2013
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They should have, Cameron and his team should have, its their job at the end of the day.
I'm pretty sure it was made quite clear a Brexit would see a lot of uncertainty though. I don't understand how anyone could see otherwise. The leave vote was a complete shot in the dark and not even the most stubborn leaver could logically argue against that.
 

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
19,465
5,862
UK
I'm pretty sure it was made quite clear a Brexit would see a lot of uncertainty though. I don't understand how anyone could see otherwise. The leave vote was a complete shot in the dark and not even the most stubborn leaver could logically argue against that.
Oh yeah absolutely and you are right it would cause uncertainty and it was a stab in the dark to a degree.

But I never imagined it would be handled so badly and I doubt many other did either.

I cannot get over the feeling with May being a Remainer that some of this is by design.
 
Jun 6, 2013
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What a fucking embarrassment :lol:

No wonder we are a fucking laughing stock with cretins like you talking about the world war and your fucking freedom. It can't be a coincidence that EVERYONE who posts or talks like this is clearly a simpleton. You are obviously a very stupid man and that mirrors the typical Sun reader who reposts memes about bacon getting banned. The full brexit movement was hijacked by idiots, feel free to become a martyr.

Germany makes all our laws, which ones? :lol:
What ever way you want to split it Germany controls the EU, you want to be part of that club run by Germans. You bum
 
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Freedom Fighter
May 14, 2013
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Castle Duckula.
I still aint convinced on a re-vote, tbh.

On the one hand I get it.

If you suggest going for a walk through a field then find out the field is actually a mine field you probably wouldn't take the walk.

On the other hand, I'm almost positive that this could've been handled better by more competent people. The idea of not doing something, not because it is fundamentally the right thing to do - which leaving the EU potentially is - but because you simply can't trust the people who are responsible for delivering it is a difficult pill to swallow, for me.

A number of us made the point at the time that leaving the EU could be a positive but absolutely not with the Tories at the helm and unfortunately that's exactly how it has played out.

If Brexit has taught us anything it is to never try anything ever.
 
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