The Brexit Negotiations

If we were to have a 2nd Referendum, how would you vote?


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Its a tricky one for me. I don't really eat meat anymore tbh so that probably skews my view a bit.

On one level I kinda feel if you're eating an animal that's been slaughtered specifically for your delight then fannying around the margins debating what's acceptable and humane is rather missing the point. It doesn't mean I don't find the intensive farming methods of the big american farms particularly repulsive but it's really just another shade of shite when push comes to shove.

If you're talking about the antibiotics and that kinda shit then I guess I lean towards the "you don't have to eat it" argument....presumably a niche would remain whereby those who really cared could pay more to eat meat of a better provenance. I dunno, perhaps that's a bit naive and there are wider implications. I haven't given it masses of thought. I get turned off the argument when I hear the "Chlorinated Chicken" claptrap tbh...spouted in horror by people who have no problem walking in a supermarket and buying a bag of prepacked salad that's gone through the exact same chlorine-wash process.

Again it all boils down fundamentally to why should I trust European legislators as opposed to my own to decide what's in my interest? Yeah you can argue the relative economic size of the EU can act as a better buffer against lowering of standards but, for me at least, it aint worth the political cost...I'd rather just watch what I eat.
I am talking about the hormones and antibiotics. And IF we were railroaded into accepting US standards it would go further than just meat. It allows additives that the EU has banned to be used etc. Anyway, back to the footy.
 
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here you go..........

So we had no tomatoes prior to 1993? or 1972?
You come out with these figures like they cant be changed and like other countries cant grow them?


So you can, old boy, and so you did !

Nothing like a nice Northumbrian tomato to complement a lucious green English salad, is there !

Oh, the nostalgia !

Or a glass of fine English wine with a nice chunk of English cheese (sorry, @Strike :smile).

I'm sure you'll all be very happy with your domestic fare after Brexi.



Do you really think spain wont sell to us on WTO?
That, sadly, is the case, Clarence.

At least not at current prices.


What did you think was the point of trade-agreement provisions of the EU to begin with ?
 
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I don't understand why you think there would be? The EU will always, always, always want to sell to us. They may well erect barriers to us selling into their market but not the other way around. Well, unless they get really vicious and decide to starve us for political reasons :lol: (don't bite Irish posters!)
Heaven forbid.

Perish the thought !
 
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Barclays have moved 166 billion worth of assets out the UK.

Don't worry, I'm sure it's just 'project fear'....
Yeah, sounds like fake news and fear mongering. Stupid Barclays must have just been reading the Guardian and not have any experts of their own. They should have popped on here.
 

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Didn't realise how important tomatoes were in all this.
So true !

The tomato sandwich is the core, nay, the bread and butter, of every English workman's lunch-box.

It's as English as the (late) Queen mother, Wimbledon, bangers and mash, or drizzly weather.

If you can't grow tomatoes any more, what is the point of....


....anything, really? :verysad
 
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Yeah, sounds like fake news and fear mongering. Stupid Barclays must have just been reading the Guardian and not have any experts of their own. They should have popped on here.

How do you know they don't ?


I have often had a sneaking suspicion that Ernest Shackleton might be an alias for some very high level executive in HSBC.

But it could just as easily be Barclay's.
 

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Barclays have moved 166 billion worth of assets out the UK.

Don't worry, I'm sure it's just 'project fear'....
This is merely 5,000 accounts due to so-called passporting rights and basically directly due to the EU negotiating tone being so emboldened by ollie robbins and may.

This is lead by legislation not market forces and obviously these 5,000 clients will have to pay higher costs and soon to be introduced financial transaction tax.

In other Barcley's news, as you care so much, despite it not effecting you in any way at all, they are in hot water over and have to run.

The Serious Fraud Office has upped the stakes in the case of the controversial $3 billion Qatari financing that saved Barclays from a taxpayer bailout in 2008, by extending the charge of "unlawful financial assistance" to the operating company, Barclays Bank plc, as well as the parent, Barclays plc. Four senior former Barclays employees are due to stand trial early this year on the same and other fraud-related charges. The significance of the SFO’s move is that Barclays Bank plc stands in danger of losing its licences to run banking businesses, including branch networks, in the UK and elsewhere if convicted of a serious criminal offence. They're finished or will be very shortly.

Next.
 

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What did you think was the point of trade-agreement provisions of the EU to begin with ?
A pretext for federalistaion

“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”

― Jean Monnet


 
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85p

I think i will cope if they get to a quid.
Here is another of ÓDulchaointigh's pronouncements:


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" The IRA are funded by Wall Street... I studied Sinn Fein... And they are a Marxist outfit... And Wall Street LOVES Marxism!"

Yessir, Wall street and Marxiat go hand in glove, don't they.


This reminds me of the conspiracy of Communists and Jewish Bankers Goebbels used to bang on about.
I dont care, i linked that for the video which is not him and i also posted an open statement from a founding farther of your beloved EU state.

Btw these are 85p who really gives a fuck if they are a quid until we sort a deal - which wont take long when minds are concentrated on the realities for both sides.
 

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85p

I think i will cope if they get to a quid.


I dont care, i linked that for the video which is not him and i also posted an open statement from a founding farther of your beloved EU state.
You did post a quote.

Only problem is, Monet never actually said that.

Bogus quote.

https://waisworld.org/go.jsp?id=02a&o=105072

Now, see if you can find an actual LINK to that actual QUOTE.



"There's nothing I enjoy more than a good old session of sixty-nine with Jim Callaghan when Dennis is soused and out for the count !"

- Dame Margaret Thatcher


See how easy it is to make shit up, Mr conspiracy !
 

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You did post a quote.

Only problem is, Monet never actually said that.

Bogus quote.

https://waisworld.org/go.jsp?id=02a&o=105072

Now, see if you can find an actual LINK to that actual QUOTE.



"There's nothing I enjoy more than a good old session of sixty-nine with Jim Callaghan when Dennis is soused and out for the count !"

- Dame Margaret Thatcher


See how easy it is to make shit up, Mr conspiracy !
So no statements at all on open admissions from germany in 1994?

I wonder what happened in 1993?
 

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So no statements at all on open admissions from germany in 1994?

I wonder what happened in 1993?

Elucidate, with some specificity, your cerebral musings, oh wise and noble protector of the realm ?

Or have you just had a wee nip o' the aul' Mountain Dew before heading off to work ?
 

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Elucidate, with some specificity, your cerebral musings, oh wise and noble protector of the realm ?

Or have you just had a wee nip o' the aul' Mountain Dew before heading off to work ?
I woke up pissed.

I refer you to official secrets act 30 year disclosure of document FCO 30/1048