The British Labour Party

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I think the bigger problem is that 31% of the country think that's who should lead us.
That is a scary thought. The Tories are inept and full of big business interests. But labour dear Jesus in heaven labour are full of bat shit insane idiots and if they got in crazy PC victimhood culture and identity politics would run rampant surpassing any common sense for the nation's betterment.

Personally I am now in the camp of avoiding either party. But I do consider the Tories the less mentally deficient of the two, labour remind me of a group of mental patients who escaped and started a political movement.

Yes, it's very scary 1/3 of the UK would vote for this group.

but like I say time for another party to be voted in. SDP perhaps? Providing they stay away from identity politics they're entirely viable. Problem is SJW identity victimhood politicians are like a fungus and any middle or left leaning party is a damp log to cling onto and multiply.
 
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There manifeso is a complete contrast to Tory austerity. Nationalisation of rail, nergy,water. Free education. Raising top rate tax, corporation tax etc
Quite clearly they stand for the redistribution of wealth fromthe top to everyone else. Just as the torys stand for redistributing the wealth from the masses to the top 5% of the country
I dont think living within your means is austere myself
Nor do I recall their costings for this crap
finally that 5% is just another word for (((something else))).
 
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It makes you wonder how they have got in the positions they are in. Not one politician I can think of seems anything but inept.
We are currently the laughing stock of the world due to this useless bunch of bastards, it's sad but true that the party that aligns closest with the centre (and I'll catch flak for this but point me to the alternative) are the so-called far-right UKIP party.

They're the only ones which don't seem completely subservient to Islam, hate this nation and its history, give a fuck for freedom of speech, resist politically correct over-reach and activist outrage machines and would actually have pursued Brexit with any kind of teeth from the start. I'm not entirely happy with them either or some of the language that comes from Batten and some of the other dumbfuck so-called gammon types around him but it seems like they're the only ones who have the balls to speak on certain matters.

There's the LibDems who are worse than irrelevant after selling out their own principles with their love-in with the Tories and the possibility of this supposedly Centrist Independent Group who appear to me to be just a bunch of Remainer Screechers if Soubry is anything to go by.

Fuck politics in this country man, I'm retiring from it.
 
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I dont think living within your means is austere myself
Nor do I recall their costings for this crap
finally that 5% is just another word for (((something else))).
-Austerity is about redistributing wealth upwards. Explain the top rate tax cut if were all in it together.
-the labour manifesto is costed
-lizards?
 
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-Austerity is about redistributing wealth upwards. Explain the top rate tax cut if were all in it together.
-the labour manifesto is costed
-lizards?
Once the rate gets too high the actual take to the exchequer gets lower
so what was the borrowing figure involved?
yes or globalists, or the 1% or whatever you want to call them
 
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That is a scary thought. The Tories are inept and full of big business interests. But labour dear Jesus in heaven labour are full of bat shit insane idiots and if they got in crazy PC victimhood culture and identity politics would run rampant surpassing any common sense for the nation's betterment.

Personally I am now in the camp of avoiding either party. But I do consider the Tories the less mentally deficient of the two, labour remind me of a group of mental patients who escaped and started a political movement.

Yes, it's very scary 1/3 of the UK would vote for this group.

but like I say time for another party to be voted in. SDP perhaps? Providing they stay away from identity politics they're entirely viable. Problem is SJW identity victimhood politicians are like a fungus and any middle or left leaning party is a damp log to cling onto and multiply.
out of interest. What labour policies do you think are straight out of the loony bin?
 
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Once the rate gets too high the actual take to the exchequer gets lower
so what was the borrowing figure involved?
yes or globalists, or the 1% or whatever you want to call them
-What is too high? Are we there now? By the way unless you are a millionaire yourself, your fighting on their behalf with that talk
-Whats borrowing got to do with it
-sounds at best wacky,probably racist or anti semetic though
 

Dazl1212

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We are currently the laughing stock of the world due to this useless bunch of bastards, it's sad but true that the party that aligns closest with the centre (and I'll catch flak for this but point me to the alternative) are the so-called far-right UKIP party.

They're the only ones which don't seem completely subservient to Islam, hate this nation and its history, give a fuck for freedom of speech, resist politically correct over-reach and activist outrage machines and would actually have pursued Brexit with any kind of teeth from the start. I'm not entirely happy with them either or some of the language that comes from Batten and some of the other dumbfuck so-called gammon types around him but it seems like they're the only ones who have the balls to speak on certain matters.

There's the LibDems who are worse than irrelevant after selling out their own principles with their love-in with the Tories and the possibility of this supposedly Centrist Independent Group who appear to me to be just a bunch of Remainer Screechers if Soubry is anything to go by.

Fuck politics in this country man, I'm retiring from it.
We absolutely are, we have an utter joke of a Tory government at the moment and this current Labour party and their new, fanatical fans have managed to piss off so many of the normal electorate that they dont stand a chance in an election.

I was reading some comments on one of their social media pages about Tommy Robinson and it was ridiculous. Basically anyone who dared to criticize anything to do with Islam was shouted down by loads of people, reminded about what the British empire did, Im sorry but every major European power at the time was exactly the same. Everyone who doesn't agree with them was just branded a racist a fascist or gammon.

The majority felt Shamima and other ISIS fighters are victims etc. I'm sure some of these were party members and I also have a Labour Councillor on my Facebook who is constantly calling everyone who isn't a far left Socialist a racist, fascist Nazi, constantly whining about every newspaper in existence that isnt the Guardian, Independent or Mirror whilst posting stories from the fucking Canary ffs...

No wonder they cant beat the worst Tory government ever in an election, most people are not interested in whats going on in Palestine or prosecuting soldiers from the troubles or Afghanistan and Iraq. They're more bothered about whats going on now in this country.
 

Jack

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The whole mentality that the Tories are not for you if you're a white, working class male is outdated. On a purely economical basis, Corbyn's idea of a NMW increase is fine and would be beneficial to a lot of people from this background but that's not everything that a government oversees. Labour under Corbyn would further tear apart working class commmunities by treating them with condescension, filling their streets with more immigrants and labelling them racist when they're upset about it, a charge lead by the overly PC aspect of their core support.

Labout under Corbyn is not what working class people want or need. They aren't stupid either, so the whole "if they knew what was best for them" thing is more patrionising, derogatory bollocks and, ironically, the same bigtory that these people accuse the Tories of.
 
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We absolutely are, we have an utter joke of a Tory government at the moment and this current Labour party and their new, fanatical fans have managed to piss off so many of the normal electorate that they dont stand a chance in an election.

I was reading some comments on one of their social media pages about Tommy Robinson and it was ridiculous. Basically anyone who dared to criticize anything to do with Islam was shouted down by loads of people, reminded about what the British empire did, Im sorry but every major European power at the time was exactly the same. Everyone who doesn't agree with them was just branded a racist a fascist or gammon.

The majority felt Shamima and other ISIS fighters are victims etc. I'm sure some of these were party members and I also have a Labour Councillor on my Facebook who is constantly calling everyone who isn't a far left Socialist a racist, fascist Nazi, constantly whining about every newspaper in existence that isnt the Guardian, Independent or Mirror whilst posting stories from the fucking Canary ffs...

No wonder they cant beat the worst Tory government ever in an election, most people are not interested in whats going on in Palestine or prosecuting soldiers from the troubles or Afghanistan and Iraq. They're more bothered about whats going on now in this country.
Absolutely bang on, if pushed on it most of those types would blame the UK for ISIS in the first place so it's really our fault that Shagina felt isolated and marginalised enough to go join an extremist Islamist group in a war that apparently was our fault too.
 
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Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
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Absolutely bang on, if pushed on it most of those types would blame the UK for ISIS in the first place so it's really our fault that Shagina felt isolated and marginalised enough to go join an extremist Islamist group in a war that apparently was our fault too.
Exactly and many people are absolutely sick of being condescend to by these people. So they have effectively shafted us with the Tories until they get their shit together or both parties collapse.
 

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
18,897
5,384
UK
The whole mentality that the Tories are not for you if you're a white, working class male is outdated. On a purely economical basis, Corbyn's idea of a NMW increase is fine and would be beneficial to a lot of people from this background but that's not everything that a government oversees. Labour under Corbyn would further tear apart working class commmunities by treating them with condescension, filling their streets with more immigrants and labelling them racist when they're upset about it, a charge lead by the overly PC aspect of their core support.

Labout under Corbyn is not what working class people want or need. They aren't stupid either, so the whole "if they knew what was best for them" thing is more patrionising, derogatory bollocks and, ironically, the same bigtory that these people accuse the Tories of.
See this is the issue, if they dropped the stuff Ive highlighted in bold they would have annihilated the Tories. Why they cant see what they are doing is divisive and is going to keep them out of power I dont know.
 
Jun 21, 2013
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We absolutely are, we have an utter joke of a Tory government at the moment and this current Labour party and their new, fanatical fans have managed to piss off so many of the normal electorate that they dont stand a chance in an election.

I was reading some comments on one of their social media pages about Tommy Robinson and it was ridiculous. Basically anyone who dared to criticize anything to do with Islam was shouted down by loads of people, reminded about what the British empire did, Im sorry but every major European power at the time was exactly the same. Everyone who doesn't agree with them was just branded a racist a fascist or gammon.

The majority felt Shamima and other ISIS fighters are victims etc. I'm sure some of these were party members and I also have a Labour Councillor on my Facebook who is constantly calling everyone who isn't a far left Socialist a racist, fascist Nazi, constantly whining about every newspaper in existence that isnt the Guardian, Independent or Mirror whilst posting stories from the fucking Canary ffs...

No wonder they cant beat the worst Tory government ever in an election, most people are not interested in whats going on in Palestine or prosecuting soldiers from the troubles or Afghanistan and Iraq. They're more bothered about whats going on now in this country.
Check out the Labour party manifesto. They definitely do have a vision for Britain now, and it's a real alternative to what we've got at the moment.
Don't let mainstream media tell u what it is the labour party are doing, they've got there own material reasons to be against it