The Clinton Body Count

Joe E

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I won't get anything from them because they don't have anything. Nobody will come back to this thread with any real evidence that Vince Foster was "shot twice in the back of the head". They'll also struggle to find evidence of a cover-up, since the investigation was headed by Ken Starr and was actually investigated by BRETT KAVANAUGH. That's right, Brett Kavanaugh investigated the death of Vince Foster. If these conspiracy drunks actually want to try and debunk this, the first thing they have to do is try to show the Clintons to be friendly with Brett Kavanaugh somehow :rofl:rofl

@VinoVeritas @Joe E @HumansSuck where you guys at with the Vince Foster evidence?
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Joe E

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EXCLUSIVE: Missing: FBI files linking Hillary Clinton to the 'suicide' of White House counsel Vince Foster have vanished from the National Archives...:lol:

This is not the first time documents related to the Clintons have apparently vanished from the National Archive.
In March 2009, the archives found that an external hard drive from the Bill Clinton White House containing confidential documents was missing.
When it could not be located, the inspector general's office announced that it had opened a criminal investigation.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753013/Missing-FBI-files-linking-Hillary-Clinton-suicide-White-House-counsel-Vince-Foster-vanished-National-Archives.html
 
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I can't find anything on the internet that suggests he is left handed (except this meme). Here is a picture of him holding a wine glass in his right hand

and here is a picture of him with his right hand on the table.

Neither of those prove anything, but they do suggest he was right handed.

Also.. I read and read and read, including some documents from the National Archive and some official reports... none of which say anything about Vince Foster having been shot "twice in the back of the head" or even "three times in the back of the head"... in fact they all conclude he shot himself in the mouth with a large exit wound in the back of the head.

I have to admit that some of the things I found on fringe sites regarding the death scene are definitely juicy and interesting. But its all second hand. There aren't any actual photos from the scene available to the public other than that shot of the gun in his hand. I sure would like access to all of the crime scene photos and the autopsy report.

All that being said.. 5 separate investigations have concluded that his death was suicide.

Here is a particularly interesting NY Times article from 1997 that digs into the conspiracy theory, and some of the reasons why the theory gained credibility.
https://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/28/books/body-politics.html

Basically, the initial investigation by the Park Police was sloppy, which hurt the credibility of subsequent investigations.
 
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TDS is something Trump supporters like to respond with when confronted with good points they aren't prepared to debate intelligently. It stands for "Trump Derangement Syndrome". It's the equivalent to responding with "Well you're just mad", and half of Vino's JuiceBox quotes have only that as a response. It's tiresome, but it outlines just how loose he is with logic and facts when it comes to American politics.

Sure, he has a point that "shooting yourself in the back of the head twice" is most likely not possible, and therefore wouldn't have been suicide... Do you know who he is talking about? I do. He's talking about Vince Foster. If Vino wasn't an HRC neophyte, he would have worked out that Vince Foster's death was ruled a suicide during the original investigation. When faced with that fact, Vino would most likely respond with something about "Deep state" FBI investigators helping the Clintons cover up the true cause of death... But then he'd have to face the fact that the original investigation was headed up by Kenneth Starr. Do you know who Kenneth Starr is? He's the Independent council who investigated the Whitewater scandal and uncovered Bill Clinton's lies about his affair with Monica Lewinsky... the lies that lead to his impeachment. Does this sound like a friend of the Clintons to you? So if THAT guy ruled that the death of Vince Foster was a suicide due to a self inflicted gun shot wound with the revolver found in his right hand... I'd have to impress on Vino (or anyone making this long-debunked claim) to go ahead and produce some crime scene or autopsy photos proving that there were actually 2 gunshot wounds to the back of his head (or was it 3? The popular claim is 3, believe it or not). So, if you don't have the proof on this... I'm going to defer to the original investigators, who have been proven to be no friends to the Clintons.
I see. So basically because Kenneth Starr signed off on it then that means it wasn't a rigged suicide?

Maybe Starr was simply out of leads and had to close the case. This happens too. In fact maybe Starr was the leak to the media about the incident. Lots of ways to see this not working out for your ideas.

I don't believe this at all. In the post immediately above, you used the term "NPC". That term is WAY more of a deep cut than TDS is. If you're immersed in MAGA/conspiracy bullshit enough to be throwing the term "NPC" around, then you damned sure know what TDS is.

NPC is hilarious. That's why I know what it means. Every of age man knows what NPC means and how well the term applies to zombie lefties. TDS sounds like something on MSLSD or Clinton News Network which I don't watch so yeah I really didn't know that one.
 

Joe E

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I see. So basically because Kenneth Starr signed off on it then that means it wasn't a rigged suicide?

Maybe Starr was simply out of leads and had to close the case. This happens too. In fact maybe Starr was the leak to the media about the incident. Lots of ways to see this not working out for your ideas.




NPC is hilarious. That's why I know what it means. Every of age man knows what NPC means and how well the term applies to zombie lefties. TDS sounds like something on MSLSD or Clinton News Network which I don't watch so yeah I really didn't know that one.
Little blood left at the scene. No blood spatter on the gun, cuff, or hand. No debris on the soles of his shoes. His glasses found 13/19 feet away from his body. Fosters shirt. Notice the blood on the right cuff not in the pic of him holding the gun.


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Haggis

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Only @Haggis and @SwollenGoat would swallow the tripe the MSM and the Clinton administration had peddled in this affair.
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Oh, Joe.

Some media outlets, like the Post and the Times, use money for investigative reporting.

Others, like World Net Daily, choose to display billboards about retarded conspiracy shit.







Here's the World Net Daily CEO Joseph Farah talking about the "controversy" back in the day.

“I knew that if we kept asking this question long enough and prominently enough that the entire nation would become engaged in a matter of constitutional integrity. That is finally happening, thanks in part to Donald Trump’s bold assertions and the impending release of a book that promises to be a game-changer for Barack Obama’s political legacy.”

And:

“We’re determined to keep this important constitutional issue alive through the 2012 presidential campaign if necessary,” said Farah. “If Barack Obama really seeks re-election, he’s going to need to prove he’s eligible – something he didn’t do in 2008 and hasn’t done since."

And:

"As I have said many times, if Obama didn’t have something to hide, he would have long ago produced the original birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii August 4, 1961, as he claims,” said Farah. “Just such legislation is pending right now in Texas and is expected to be introduced in several other states in 2011. When that happens, I am firmly convinced Obama will decide not to run again. At that point, an investigation needs to be launched by Congress to determine whether he was ever eligible to serve and whether any of his initiatives and actions as president are legitimate.”

Nice source you got there, Joe! Almost as good as the one where every article is written by Brad Pitt's character from Fight Club - a character where the entire point of the movie is that he's fake and only exists to show that the lead character has lost his grasp on reality. And this website's founder said that he started it "to expose the wickedness of the Left". Quality sources you got there, Joe! Very credible! And that's not even the one you like where one of the original three editors quit because "I can't be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It's wrong. Period."

Just keep on linking to this bottom-of-the-barrel conspiracy poison, Joe! :patsch

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Haggis

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Even your pal SG has benefited from Trump's economy.
Trump's economy?

Had the economy been tending upwards or downwards for several years when Trump took office? Let's revisit this issue in 2020.

Compare Trump to Cortez.
Why?

She's an idiot Incoming Congresswoman who has no idea how anything works, hasn't even been sworn in yet and will spend the next few years in the most junior group of a cast of hundreds.

He's the fucking President. There is no comparison.

Go ahead and give us that comedy routine. One has managed an enormous fortune and the other can't figure out how to pay her rent.
One was handed more than $400 million by Daddy, hasn't grown it at all, went bankrupt six times and couldn't make money running a casino, you mean.

And yeah, it's hard for an ordinary millennial who wasn't born to a real estate empire to afford to move to DC and set up an apartment before her new six figure salary starts to kick in. What a scandal, right?

Yet the democrats are infatuated with her. They will at some point in the near future roll the dice with her campaign.
Which Democrats do you mean? The ones who instantly shut down her grandstanding against Pelosi?

Are you defending Trump by bashing the nonexistent Ocasio-Cortez 2024 campaign? What are you even saying? She's a media darling because she pulled off a huge upset that nobody saw coming for a second, she's an outsider candidate and she's extremely media-savvy and Twitter-friendly. Why are you so offended by her? She's the Democrat's version of Trump, except she has no real power and no path to getting any for many years at least.

The truth is bubbling to the surface with a reckoning.
It's true. More and more henchmen are flipping, more and more charges are being filed and jail sentences handed out. :lol:

The man behind the curtain is seen. That demonic bitch is through.
Yeah, talking like this doesn't make you come off as particularly rational. "Demonic bitch"? Really? She's an elitist, greedy, workaholic ambitionbot. Not a fucking personification of evil. :patsch


Globalism was never the answer. It was always high theater designed to steal power from the laborers of the world.
Um, globalism has been responsible for the greatest exodus from poverty in human history. The great majority of "the labourers of the world" don't live in the USA, you know. They've been a lot poorer than you have been, and for a lot longer, and their opportunities are on the up.

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Joe E

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Just keep on linking to this bottom-of-the-barrel conspiracy poison, Joe! :patsch

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You mean the MSM? Institutions that are truly bottom of the barrel. Which Americans have as much trust as we do in Congress? :lol: Keep drinking the Kool Aid, Dutch Rudder.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/334897-poll-majority-says-mainstream-media-publishes-fake-news

According to data from the latest Harvard-Harris poll, which was provided exclusively to The Hill, 65 percent of voters believe there is a lot of fake news in the mainstream media.

"That number includes 80 percent of Republicans, 60 percent of independents and 53 percent of Democrats. Eighty-four percent of voters said it is hard to know what news to believe online"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/02/poll-fake-news-494421

"More than 3-in-4 of 803 American respondents, or 77 percent, said they believe that major traditional television and newspaper media outlets report “fake news,” according to a Monmouth University poll released Monday, marking a sharp increase in distrust of those news organizations from a year ago, when 63 percent registered concerns about the spread of misinformation"
 

SwollenGoat

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You mean the MSM? Institutions that are truly bottom of the barrel. Which Americans have as much trust as we do in Congress? :lol: Keep drinking the Kool Aid, Dutch Rudder.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/334897-poll-majority-says-mainstream-media-publishes-fake-news

According to data from the latest Harvard-Harris poll, which was provided exclusively to The Hill, 65 percent of voters believe there is a lot of fake news in the mainstream media.

"That number includes 80 percent of Republicans, 60 percent of independents and 53 percent of Democrats. Eighty-four percent of voters said it is hard to know what news to believe online"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/02/poll-fake-news-494421

"More than 3-in-4 of 803 American respondents, or 77 percent, said they believe that major traditional television and newspaper media outlets report “fake news,” according to a Monmouth University poll released Monday, marking a sharp increase in distrust of those news organizations from a year ago, when 63 percent registered concerns about the spread of misinformation"
And most americans believe in ghosts,aliens and Atlantis

So what?

You are confusing your own personal paranoia and uneducated popular opinion with some sort of insight into the actual quality of journalism,which is such an obvious fallacy its hardly necessary to point it out,no?

The fact that YOU feel the 'msm' is unreliable doesn't make WND or the rest of the shit you read somehow any less batshit insane joe.

It simply demonstrates a breakdown in your ability to parse information and a massive fucking dose of confirmation bias................
 

SwollenGoat

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So,in short,no legit sources about wounds in the back of the head,or second and third gunshot wounds or any of that shit

Just Joe and VIno spewing shit they read someplace in the dumbest depths of the internet's conspiracy dumpsters..............

I,for one,am utterly shocked.....................

utterly
 

Joe E

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And most americans believe in ghosts,aliens and Atlantis

So what?

You are confusing your own personal paranoia and uneducated popular opinion with some sort of insight into the actual quality of journalism,which is such an obvious fallacy its hardly necessary to point it out,no?

The fact that YOU feel the 'msm' is unreliable doesn't make WND or the rest of the shit you read somehow any less batshit insane joe.

It simply demonstrates a breakdown in your ability to parse information and a massive fucking dose of confirmation bias................
When you read the news you know. Amirite? Mr Right. Just for kicks, what sources do you rely upon? The Daily Kos is one. Snopes, of course. Any others?
 

Joe E

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So,in short,no legit sources about wounds in the back of the head,or second and third gunshot wounds or any of that shit

Just Joe and VIno spewing shit they read someplace in the dumbest depths of the internet's conspiracy dumpsters..............

I,for one,am utterly shocked.....................

utterly
Fuck it up, again. Mr Right. Who said there were 2 wounds to the back of his head? Do you just make shit up as you go along now? Create a reality to jibe with your uninformed opinions? :lol: Care to address the lack of blood spatter at the scene? Lack of blood on the gun, cuff on the shirt, and hand which he used to shoot himself? Or is that a conspiracy?