The Downfall of Charlie Zelenoff

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The problem is, mental health in the U.S. is a joke. Most times someone like him can be taken in and institutionalized for observation to determine if they are a threat to themselves or others. This usually lasts less than 2 weeks and if you know how to play the system and give the right answers, they will cut you loose, especially if you have no insurance for long term commitments to get real help.

What they'll do is start the patient on meds to alter their behavior, basically making them docile walking zombies and recommend they continue seeking mental health help once released, but there are no court orders to do so and the patient, upon release, can just go back to what was normal before being sent in for observation.

I've got a 29 yr. old step-daughter who has been diagnosed as "Schizoaffective" and she is currently on 8 different medications a day to control, or lessen her issues. If she quits taking her medication, within a few days she is showing signs of reverting to being off the charts with her behavior. She is living with the wife and I and I made it a mandatory requirement for her to continue taking her meds for us to give her a chance to get her life in order. If she chooses to quit the meds, she needs to find someone else to put up with the fallout of her decision. With meds, she can function in society, without meds, she's a total whack job with no chance of a future.
I hear ya man, it's a bummer you have to deal with this too in your personal life...but the guy here is a clear danger to society, just based on those arrests for assault the court should order him a mandatory psychiatric stay at an institution.

If he is going around punching random people on the street, it's possible he is imagining they are boxers, he maybe having hallucinations thinking all of this is real. Imagine he thinks of himself as a racecar driver next and mowes people down on a sidewalk. It will be too late then to think about intervention.
 
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Eventually he is going to fuck with the wrong person and that person is going to hurt him really bad, maybe kill him, and I’m sorry to say but when it happens it will be justified, he is a lowlife piece of shit, who walks around assaulting people for the hell of it.
 

dominus

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The guy is legitimately mentally ill and needs to be committed to an institution, he maybe a schizophrenic or something else. Jailing him for a few days won't do anything.
Social media and sad fucks like him needing help are a deadly concoction.
 

Johnstown

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It honestly kind of disturbs me how often he essentially does beat people up.

Of course they are sometimes old guys like the pizza man.

But damn even young guys.

I get that a sucker punch makes a difference but fuck sake...
 

Sittin Sonny

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On the other hand, he didn't survive the 1st round against a guy that was 1-28 against everyone else he fought.
Yep, his one and only real fight in the ring in sanctioned bout. He wanted to call a "Time Out" in that one and the ref was having none of it.

His opponent that night was Andrew Hartley who went on to have an illustrious career with a record of 2 wins with 1 KO and 28 losses including being KO'd in 27 of them. Hartley's KO win happened to be a fellow named Jeff Lee who ended his career with a 0-4 record with all his losses being KO's

Every Tyson has his Holyfield.

That Charlie just happened to meet his in his 1st pro fight shouldn't be held against him.
 

Deebo

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Show dem balls bro
If Charlie Z offered to come to your part of Pa to spar, would you do it?
He called me out years ago on ESB saying he'd fight me at his gym with his homies there as long as I came alone. :lol:

Also.....

People also ask
How much is Charlie Zelenoff worth?
Since Zelenoff claims to be the UBF Champion, people are curious to know what his net worth is. According to sources, Charlie Zelenoff's net worth is estimated to be between $100,000 and $1.0 million. No wonder he can pay people to fight him.Sep 26, 2017

What what WHAT???
 
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Johnstown

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If Charlie Z offered to come to your part of Pa to spar, would you do it?
I don't see him doing that....


Only way I think it might happen is if I was in one of the LA fitness places he "works out" at...and I intentionally dogged it bad on a heavybag.


I'm not prime tyson or Pacquiao on a bag but I don't see him coming up to me if I was working it the way I do.
 

Johnstown

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Pretty sure if I'm working a heavybag in that manner he ain't requesting any work.

 
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He called me out years ago on ESB saying he'd fight me at his gym with his homies there as long as I came alone. :lol:

Also.....




What what WHAT???
very much doubt that - have you seen where he lives?
 
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100% true bro. This was way back in his beginning when you still had that twin towers avvy. :yep

Edit: Of course he was full of shit and I would have never went. :lol:
no i meant the part where he's worth 100k to 1 mil. lol

i dont think i ever had a twin tower avy though, i think you're confusing me with another poster lol