~ THE EXPANSE - Season 5 goes LIVE - Season 6 will be last ... or? - no book spoilers ~

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WHAT IS THE EXPANSE?

It's a world building, realistic space opera oft compared to Game of Thrones, since it has several factions, fewer but more fleshed out characters, political intrigue, backstabbing, bloody action, tragedy, personal journeys, conspiracy plus a ot of science. Not boring-ass stuff, just everything is based on actual physics and what's to come based on our horrible 20th/21st century. It's appropriately dark and gritty, but always with a glimmer of hope, with huge amount of emotions. It is both an ongoing bestselling novel-series heading toward the 9th and final book next year, and a television series starting on SyFy (Amazon and Netflix splitting the US/international online rights). From the fourth, Amazon will fully air.


WHAT'S THE STORY?

If Earth is overcrowded and violent now, so imagine it two centuries from now! Places for humans in the Solar System are scares, either on small moons or on space stations, so there's always a fight for resources. Earth is the most populated and politically powerful entity, selfishly burning through more materials. Mars is a now independent militant power united under the goal of creating a sustainable New Earth. The Asteroid Belt holds several stations and small moon colonies, with millions of Belters working hard, mining minerals and ice, barely having any resources and cut from political power, as well as human rights.

And if tensions weren't high enough, something strange is found near Jupiter and a grand conspiracy breaks loose. We follow a small, multi-faction crew caught in the middle of it, and a lot of space action is happening around their ship, with every burn and hard maneuver hurting their fragile bodies. There's a political thread on Earth as things are escalating diplomatically, And there's a disillusioned, corrupt cop takes on a noir-style investigation on Ceres station, going after a missing girl who could connect all dots. Genres clash effortlessly, always entertaining with humans in the middle. In time there are more sci-fi elements (emphasis on science and less on the fiction) and some existential questions in our place in the big empty. The story is always evolving and never gets stuck, boring or repetitive.


WHY THE TV SERIES IS SO GOOD?

It's the best damn world-builder since Game of Thrones. While the Solar System is certainly larger than Westeros, there are fewer parties, less sex and violence for the sake of it, and deeper character study, solid backgrounds and good-old super-impressive space stuff that makes this space opera tick.

Best pacing in television. It's not about Nolan-like telegraphed twists or big reveals, but The Expanse does a great job at building tension before releasing it at unpredictable moments. They actually keep getting better at this, season 2 was even better than 1, and 3 is just great right now.

Rock solid cast. Even though most are character actors and some not even B+ level, as an ensemble, they deliver their parts with supreme confidence. Each character are given lines they can handle, and backstories, motivations and emotions click just right between them. It's enormous joy to follow the good guys, the bad guys and those in between.

Best sci-fi visuals on TV. Ever. Forget Klingoons standing on the bridge at warp speed: if you ever dived deep under or felt car/plane burnout to your gut, imagine yourself tossed around like a rag doll at 2/5 G burns, realistic space battles, depressurization and so forth. Action scenes follow real world physics, ships and stations and built based on that as well, guns are realistic and all the small visual details, differences make The Expanse great. Super impressive stuff!

Beltalowda! Belters have been taken advantage of for generations, have sickly bodies and weak bones from working in zero G, but are super tough, have their own creole (semi-language) and pride, and a very un-Earth sense of time, morals, view on possession and a sense of brotherhood. They are enduring the most whatever happens between big political parties, but will they stand to suffer forever?


SO SHOULD I WATCH IT?

Damn should, even if you're not interesting in sci-f, it's just damn good television and of course it's a bestselling novel series for a reason. Space explorer Amazon head Jeff Bezos (who personally announced that Amazon saves it after SyFy cancelled it) and George R.R. Martin (author of Game of Thrones) both find the books and the series great.

It's exciting, emotional and the show is great to look at, and while it'll never reach The Wire status or Game of Thrones budget, I confidently say: you'll quickly catch-up with the ongoing third season ending July 2018. There are some inconsistencies of course and may start slow for you (after all it's complex and missing like super bloody, gory, nude filled stuff to entertain), but give it a good 4-5 episodes and it will grow on you. Each season is better. It always gets better.


WHERE CAN I READ IT?

Wherever books are found, silly. Besides stores, you can obviously look it up at the Amazon Kindle Store for example, first few books are at a bargain price right now.


WHERE CAN I WATCH IT?

The first 3 seasons have been aired on SyFy, but once this season is concluded, it's officially heading to Amazon. Which already offers the first two seasons per episode or for free if you subscribe to Amazon Prime Video in the US and in some markets. Whereas first two seasons can be found in the Netflix catalog internationally. There may be local deals and airing in your country, use Google.

Don't be alarmed by SyFy (that brought Battlestar Galactica to screen): The Expanse is fully financed and developed by award-winning Alcon Television Group, so quality is independent from where it's airing. The reason SyFy had to give it up was low ratings and they only had first run linear rights, so their success was solely depending on ratings whereas you could watch it on Amazon or Netflix (with good numbers actually) whenever you liked. Since streaming services are the future, and The Expanse is set in it, I think it's best suited at Amazon anyway.


DISCUSS THE NOVEL AND SERIES FREELY, JUST USE SPOILER TAGS

Since The Expanse is still gaining popularity the the show doesn't have a huge live fan base, please use spoiler tags whenever you discuss story elements or if a YouTube video title gives away too much. Let's allow noobs to pick up on the novels and series and discuss it just as freely as veterans.
 
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I can see another network picking this up no problem, especially with big investment from amazon/netflix. This series has a good following and the last season is 100% on rottentomatoes so it's a surprise they would just drop it like that
 
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I can see another network picking this up no problem, especially with big investment from amazon/netflix. This series has a good following and the last season is 100% on rottentomatoes so it's a surprise they would just drop it like that
I hope so. That's always a danger with Sci-fi or fantasy even when it's good of it being cancelled as it's quite niche and networks only care about ratings.

Firefly, Angel, Defiance, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Doll House, Continuum were all good shows that were prematurely cancelled, it makes it hard being a Sci-f fan as any show you invest time in will likely be cancelled before a suitable conclusion.
 
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Joe

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it's like you tapwired my soul and put it into words good old bigbone, I still think I prefered season 1 over 2 however so far season 3 has blown me away the latest episode not the least it feels as if it's just getting better and better, without question this is the best tv series right now period!
 
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I hope so. That's always a danger with Sci-fi or fantasy even when it's good of it being cancelled as it's quite niche and networks only care about ratings.

Firefly, Angel, Defiance, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Doll House, Continuum were all good shows that were prematurely cancelled, it makes it hard being a Sci-f fan as any show you invest time in will likely be cancelled before a suitable conclusion.
That Angel wouldn't have been cancelled if Wheddon hadn't forced The WB's hand makes it all the more infuriating. If he'd waited a few more months he'd have gotten the sixth season, and possibly more. Show had recovered from the lull during the Jasmine stuff too. Damn him.
 
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That Angel wouldn't have been cancelled if Wheddon hadn't forced The WB's hand makes it all the more infuriating. If he'd waited a few more months he'd have gotten the sixth season, and possibly more. Show had recovered from the lull during the Jasmine stuff too. Damn him.
From what I recall Whedon forced the issue because WB were always deciding to green light another season at the last minute and actors, writers and crew were all basically being put on hold and declining other work for a show that may or may not happen. The show was getting strong ratings so it made sense for Whedon to ask for an early renewal, obviously that back fired and with hindsight was a mistake.

Fact is Angel was a success it was getting good ratings at the end and the real issue with Angel was that it was a show from a genre that studio's don't really understand or trust. They always think something else more mainstream could do better and in this case they were wrong. The show that replaced Angel called The Mountain died a death and was cancelled after 1 season. They even tried to do another vampire show a couple of years later called Moonlight but that got terrible reviews and was cancelled quickly. WB had a popular show that was a ratings winner and they pissed it down the toilet.
 

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it's like you tapwired my soul and put it into words good old bigbone, I still think I prefered season 1 over 2 however so far season 3 has blown me away the latest episode not the least it feels as if it's just getting better and better, without question this is the best tv series right now period!
It's a hard pick. S1 is a better genre-mesh, I really liked the space noir gig. But I found S2 more emotional, perhaps cause the Sol System was even more fleshed out, especially Belters. Somehow they make you care for the smallest side-characters and this remains my all-time favorite Expanse scene.

SEASON 2 SPOILER

 
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Joe

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It's a hard pick. S1 is a better genre-mesh, I really liked the space noir gig. But I found S2 more emotional, perhaps cause the Sol System was even more fleshed out, especially Belters. Somehow they make you care for the smallest side-characters and this remains my all-time favorite Expanse scene. (S2 spoilers if you click on the video)

Yeah that was good, I did love that noir part with Thomas Jayne's investigation alot so that's probably why I got the overall feeling I do, however I've only seen it once so far, might be time to go through it again.

:cheers
 
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Haggis

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Fuck this show, y'all need to get onto The Terror.

Well OK, to be fair, I was unaware of this show until this thread. But now I want to watch it. The setup sounds interesting.

:hat
 
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Yeah that was good, I did love that noir part with Thomas Jayne's investigation alot so that's probably why I got the overall feeling I do, however I've only seen it once so far, might be time to go through it again.

:cheers

Opps, different Jayne
 

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I've been recording this season but I haven't watched any of it cause I haven't watched the first two seasons
 

BigBone

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Fuck this show, y'all need to get onto The Terror.

Well OK, to be fair, I was unaware of this show until this thread. But now I want to watch it. The setup sounds interesting.

:hat
You'll be done with that soon enough and turn your attention to Jared Harris in space.
 
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