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Which team will win the Champions League?


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I’m so excited at the possibility of Liverpool fucking this up.
We've already fucked it up. City will be top after they beat Everton tomorrow night. So Liverpool will have thrown away a 7 point lead to be down to level points with a game in hand. IF City were to then beat Chelsea, it would mean they were level on points (if Liverpool manage to beat Bournemouth) with only Utd and Spurs left to play from the big teams. We would have Utd, Chelsea, Spurs and the derby.

Gomez will be out until at least March, and let's be honest we've played like complete shit in every match since the turn of the year.
 

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The thing is though in Liverpools defence they were always going to have a rough spell, it's just about scratching through it and minimising the damage as best as they can. They have done well this season in that they are ahead at this point because let's face it if you were a City fan which of Liverpools players would you take over your own?
 
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The thing is though in Liverpools defence they were always going to have a rough spell, it's just about scratching through it and minimising the damage as best as they can. They have done well this season in that they are ahead at this point because let's face it if you were a City fan which of Liverpools players would you take over your own?
Van Dijk and Salah would get in the team and maybe Robertson.
 

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Van Dijk and Salah would get in the team and maybe Robertson.
That's about what I thought too, Liverpools midfield really lacks quality and especially lacks a leader, I reckon Oxlade-Chamberlain would have given them a much more dynamic midfield this season had he been fit.
 
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That's about what I thought too, Liverpools midfield really lacks quality and especially lacks a leader, I reckon Oxlade-Chamberlain would have given them a much more dynamic midfield this season had he been fit.
For sure, he's been sorely missed, as he was great before the injury. Fabinho has begun to look good, and needs to start most games. Keita is gifted, but has been a huge disappointment for his debut season, pretty much shit in every game he has played bar the opening match of the season. He was dire in the first half last night, and although he was vastly improved in the second and looked good at times, his decision making was still lacking. He would beat a man, get into space, make room for a pass and then just keep running until blocked off. He has talent, but thus far looks to be very poor at making the right choice.
 
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For sure, he's been sorely missed, as he was great before the injury. Fabinho has begun to look good, and needs to start most games. Keita is gifted, but has been a huge disappointment for his debut season, pretty much shit in every game he has played bar the opening match of the season. He was dire in the first half last night, and although he was vastly improved in the second and looked good at times, his decision making was still lacking. He would beat a man, get into space, make room for a pass and then just keep running until blocked off. He has talent, but thus far looks to be very poor at making the right choice.
Liverpool will be fine. Klopp has found a balance from high pressing to finding space for a pass and go game which every title winning team in England thrives on imo

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Liverpool will be fine. Klopp has found a balance from high pressing to finding space for a pass and go game which every title winning team in England thrives on imo

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That's all well and good, but the balance and the game have seen us scrape draws against Leicester and West Ham, scrape an undeserved win over Palace after conceding 3 goals and get utterly dominated by City when we played them last month. We've been absolute shit since the turn of the new year, and if our results had been losses to City, and West Ham with draws to Leicester and Brighton, we'd have nothing to complain about.

We will be second going into the game on Saturday after being 7 points clear 4 weeks ago, and if City beat Chelsea then they will also have an easier run of remaining games.

It's far from over, just as it was far from over when people said City were done after the Newcastle game, but sensible money would be on City to retain the title.
 

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That's all well and good, but the balance and the game have seen us scrape draws against Leicester and West Ham, scrape an undeserved win over Palace after conceding 3 goals and get utterly dominated by City when we played them last month. We've been absolute shit since the turn of the new year, and if our results had been losses to City, and West Ham with draws to Leicester and Brighton, we'd have nothing to complain about.

We will be second going into the game on Saturday after being 7 points clear 4 weeks ago, and if City beat Chelsea then they will also have an easier run of remaining games.

It's far from over, just as it was far from over when people said City were done after the Newcastle game, but sensible money would be on City to retain the title.
I genuinely couldn't believe the table when I saw it, I saw City lose to Newcastle and assumed you must be out of sight now. That there's only 3 points in it is insane. I think the concern with not playing well all season is that either you need to break through it and start putting good performances with your wins, or it starts to fall apart. We had that a bit after our 22 game streak. Many poor performances and awful starts, and it eventually ruined us and massively hurt our top 4 chances.

I'll be honest, never liked Liverpool and want City to do it (fuck Spurs somehow pulling it off), but they need to turn it round quick and do another run. City have not been nearly as consistent this year, and a 7-8 game winning streak could break them from having to match it. But especially with Liverpool's history hanging over them, another game of dropped points and it could get real tough to hold their nerve. And you get the feeling the rest of the big boys will be eyeing Liverpool as a potential scalp now as well.
 
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They don't really have the players for it either, call me mad but I don't rate Mane or Firmino at all, a fit Sturridge would score more goals than those two, Keita is pony, there's just too many suspect players in that team, Lallana, Henderson and Wijnaldum aren't what you'd call title winning material.

Who exactly is Liverpools captain these days? Nobody seems to have command there in the way that somebody like Souness, Viera, Keane or Terry would.
I think Manes really good and the rest of them are all ok apart from Lallana who looks finished but the problem is they should be squad players in a title winning team - like Fletcher at man u, Parlour at Arsenal, Tiago at Chelsea etc but at Liverpool theyre vital - wijnaldum being out was a big part of them being so shit yesterday. Anyway point is you're right that if/when City win this title it will be because theyve got absolutely loads of superior footballers to liverpool rather than bottle or whatever.
 

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As it turns out, Messi is quite good.
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I honestly just consider them both to be the two best players ever now. Messi is the more naturally talented, I just prefer Ronaldo as a player if I was choosing my team.

Both are unreal and have operated at a level so far ahead of every other player. It's a shame both are near the end.
 

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You have to post 'and yet hes only the 5th best player in the world!!11!!!' whenever you post about Messi for the next year, its the rules.
Regardless of whether it's same two every year, it's a travesty that someone else won that. Both had good claims to it, one or the other should've won. Modric won on bs politics.
 
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Regardless of whether it's same two every year, it's a travesty that someone else won that. Both had good claims to it, one or the other should've won. Modric won on bs politics.
What politics Id have thought politically itd make a million times more sense to give it Messi or Ronaldo the 2 biggest stars by miles or Mbappe the big upcoming star, Modric is a boring ugly little runt why would you give it to him? Real Madrid influence is about all I can think of
 
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That's all well and good, but the balance and the game have seen us scrape draws against Leicester and West Ham, scrape an undeserved win over Palace after conceding 3 goals and get utterly dominated by City when we played them last month. We've been absolute shit since the turn of the new year, and if our results had been losses to City, and West Ham with draws to Leicester and Brighton, we'd have nothing to complain about.

We will be second going into the game on Saturday after being 7 points clear 4 weeks ago, and if City beat Chelsea then they will also have an easier run of remaining games.

It's far from over, just as it was far from over when people said City were done after the Newcastle game, but sensible money would be on City to retain the title.
I cant disagree, but Im disapointed tbh...I honestly think Liverpool will nick it this year
 
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Liverpools 1st team is great, shame you have no faith...but City have squad depth...

C'mon Strike, be fucking positive!
My faith or lack of faith has no bearing on anything. I will be disappointed when we don't win it, but less so than the blindly optimistic fans who fully believed we were going to win the moment we went a few points clear.
 
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My faith or lack of faith has no bearing on anything. I will be disappointed when we don't win it, but less so than the blindly optimistic fans who fully believed we were going to win the moment we went a few points clear.
I think you are being negative to be in the ''I told you so'' camp

This is the best Liverpool team Ive seen (apart from peak Suarez), I was born in 82 btw...Barnes era, Spice Boys, Owen, Suarez...this team is pretty good imo