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Which team will win the Champions League this season?


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Interesting choice by Correa there could have just fouled him on the half way line instead of chasing a foot behind him all the way back then doing it as soon as he was in the penalty box and looked like going nowhere

Amazing performance by Juve though and obviously Ronaldo
 
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Interesting choice by Correa there could have just fouled him on the half way line instead of chasing a foot behind him all the way back then doing it as soon as he was in the penalty box and looked like going nowhere

Amazing performance by Juve though and obviously Ronaldo
He was due a good performance at this year's CL to be fair.
 
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Another historic night for CR7.

Now wait for the resident tards to come here with the usual BS of "other than scoring he didnt do nothing".

Well last time i checked scoring goals is the most importnat thing in football..

But trolls gonna troll.

And The GOAT gonna GOAT.
 
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Think about it, Juve paid £99m for a 34 year old, and got the better deal. Real did it to swap their very good goalkeeper with another very good goalkeeper.

Ronaldo has gone to a brand new league, at 34 and is crushing it still, as well as pulling out a hattrick in the KO stages when his new team needed it most.

He has more goals in the KO stage than the next two (Messi+Muller) combined.

GOAT argument aside, but that's just completely unreal. He's outperforming the best players in the world (Messi aside) as a 34 year old in a brand new league while still at the top level of the game.

Then you have this guy:

there are other players just as good as CR7 and/or Messi without the marketing.
 

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Think about it, Juve paid £99m for a 34 year old, and got the better deal. Real did it to swap their very good goalkeeper with another very good goalkeeper.

Ronaldo has gone to a brand new league, at 34 and is crushing it still, as well as pulling out a hattrick in the KO stages when his new team needed it most.

He has more goals in the KO stage than the next two (Messi+Muller) combined.

GOAT argument aside, but that's just completely unreal. He's outperforming the best players in the world (Messi aside) as a 34 year old in a brand new league while still at the top level of the game.

Then you have this guy:
A ridiculous comment. CR7 and Messi are just THAT good, and no amount of marketing can account for their levels of success over the last decade.
 

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Ronaldo is a mad lad.
Dont want to compare Ronaldo or Messi, just want to tip my fedora for CR7 for doing it again.
 
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A ridiculous comment. CR7 and Messi are just THAT good, and no amount of marketing can account for their levels of success over the last decade.
Like that other guy said, Salah's incredible season last season, would need to be repeated 16x just to match what those two have achieved. He's not looking like he's going to match it once. They're the two best players of all time, and arguing which one is the best is just pointless. Dread the day they retire.
 
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Messi will score 4 tomorrow.

They (CR7 and Messi) are still the two best players in the world.

Thats why i think that Modric winning the individual awards was ridiculous(not his fault)

They wanted so bad to break the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly but they ended up fucking it up big time and losing the last bit of credibility that those awards still had.
 

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Like that other guy said, Salah's incredible season last season, would need to be repeated 16x just to match what those two have achieved. He's not looking like he's going to match it once. They're the two best players of all time, and arguing which one is the best is just pointless. Dread the day they retire.
I mean, it's not pointless, one is objectively better, but this is Ronnie's night so we should concentrate on his performance, and not the other guy who is leading in both goals and assists in Europe, just as he did last season.
 

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I mean, it's not pointless, one is objectively better, but this is Ronnie's night so we should concentrate on his performance, and not the other guy who is leading in both goals and assists in Europe, just as he did last season.
It's not the night to argue (and it's an argument with no right/wrong answer really, and will go on til long after both retire), but I think both have decent cases.

That said, Ronaldo's performance tonight was reminiscent of Zidanes against Brazil in 2006. Probably better. I'd always considered that the epitome of a great player long past his prime stamping his authority, but tonight Ronaldo probably did even better.
 

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City are an unbelievable team but I just can't see them winning the Champions League at the moment, even though I think they're quite easily the best team in the world. They have a really small club mentality and it seems that when an opposing team asks questions of them in Europe, they struggle. They're the opposite to United in that sense, and even Liverpool too, which is funny because Liverpool have similar issues getting over the line in the Premier League. City in Europe are like Liverpool have been for the past couple of months in the Premier League, very nervy and that nervousness throughout the stadium is bound to have an effect on the players.

Had City won the Champions League last year, I think they'd batter a team like Barcelona now, but I just don't see it happening because they lack the self belief and natural confidence to just play well from the get go. It took them until they were 4-2 up over the two legs to start playing their best stuff against Schalke, which I'd see as a worry if I was a fan of theirs because they should go into that tie at 0-0 with supreme confidence. They're a phenomenal team when it's all comfortable, as good as the Barca and Bayern sides under Guardiola, but unlike those two, they still have a small time mentality that doesn't bode well when it's a tight fixture at Old Trafford, Camp Nou, Allianz Arena, Anfield etc..
 

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It's not the night to argue (and it's an argument with no right/wrong answer really, and will go on til long after both retire), but I think both have decent cases.

That said, Ronaldo's performance tonight was reminiscent of Zidanes against Brazil in 2006. Probably better. I'd always considered that the epitome of a great player long past his prime stamping his authority, but tonight Ronaldo probably did even better.
We disagree on the first point, but yeah sure, Ronnie was great tonight. He turns up in the latter stages of the CL always.
 
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If any football fan knocks Ronaldo after that game tonight they are spastics. That tonight is the fucking epitome of a big game player and it's not the first time he's done that throughout his career either as we all know. Why people can't just appreciate him and Messi I'll never know. As soon as either has an off game there's always cunts rushing in shit talking like 20 year olds in a schoolyard.
 

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City are an unbelievable team but I just can't see them winning the Champions League at the moment, even though I think they're quite easily the best team in the world. They have a really small club mentality and it seems that when an opposing team asks questions of them in Europe, they struggle. They're the opposite to United in that sense, and even Liverpool too, which is funny because Liverpool have similar issues getting over the line in the Premier League. City in Europe are like Liverpool have been for the past couple of months in the Premier League, very nervy and that nervousness throughout the stadium is bound to have an effect on the players.

Had City won the Champions League last year, I think they'd batter a team like Barcelona now, but I just don't see it happening because they lack the self belief and natural confidence to just play well from the get go. It took them until they were 4-2 up over the two legs to start playing their best stuff against Schalke, which I'd see as a worry if I was a fan of theirs because they should go into that tie at 0-0 with supreme confidence. They're a phenomenal team when it's all comfortable, as good as the Barca and Bayern sides under Guardiola, but unlike those two, they still have a small time mentality that doesn't bode well when it's a tight fixture at Old Trafford, Camp Nou, Allianz Arena, Anfield etc..
I agree, I think they'll bottle it against a Barcelona or a Juventus.
 
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City are an unbelievable team but I just can't see them winning the Champions League at the moment, even though I think they're quite easily the best team in the world. They have a really small club mentality and it seems that when an opposing team asks questions of them in Europe, they struggle. They're the opposite to United in that sense, and even Liverpool too, which is funny because Liverpool have similar issues getting over the line in the Premier League. City in Europe are like Liverpool have been for the past couple of months in the Premier League, very nervy and that nervousness throughout the stadium is bound to have an effect on the players.

Had City won the Champions League last year, I think they'd batter a team like Barcelona now, but I just don't see it happening because they lack the self belief and natural confidence to just play well from the get go. It took them until they were 4-2 up over the two legs to start playing their best stuff against Schalke, which I'd see as a worry if I was a fan of theirs because they should go into that tie at 0-0 with supreme confidence. They're a phenomenal team when it's all comfortable, as good as the Barca and Bayern sides under Guardiola, but unlike those two, they still have a small time mentality that doesn't bode well when it's a tight fixture at Old Trafford, Camp Nou, Allianz Arena, Anfield etc..
Lots of cliches without much substance in here.


How do you work out that Pep, his staff and his squad have a small time mentality? They're the ones influencing what happens on the pitch, nobody else.

They won 10-2 by the way. Can't see how someone sees that and thinks it boosts their argument for them not winning it....
 

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Lots of cliches without much substance in here.


How do you work out that Pep, his staff and his squad have a small time mentality? They're the ones influencing what happens on the pitch, nobody else.

They won 10-2 by the way. Can't see how someone sees that and thinks it boosts their argument for them not winning it....
City in Europe over the past few years is proof of this same mentality, as is the contrast in the performances between them against Schalke when it was a game compared to how brilliant they were when they had a clear lead. They aren't just front runners though because they're not like this in England, it's massively increased when they play in Europe. The stadium has a weird nervousness about it that has a knock on effect on the players. If you doubt the effect of this mentality, look at how well Liverpool played in Europe last year and how the fans elevated their performances even more. Last year, City were clearly a better team than Liverpool but their game in Europe wasn't a shock, Liverpool were always going to play out of their skin in that fixture just like City were going to underperform.

Real Madrid, United, Barcelona, Liverpool etc. are good examples of teams who are suited to Europe whereas the teams with more recent success, like PSG, City etc. are failing to produce the goods, can be rattled easily and are playing well beneath their potential. I think City will again and despite being the best team in the world, will fall short in Europe again.

I'd love to see City win the Champions League though. Any English team would be great but it'd be good for football if a club with a smaller status was able to become a European champion.