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Who will win the 2019/20 PL??


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Jack

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If I was Pochettino, I'd be demanding that Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Eriksen are all given ultimatums to resign before their next league game and if they aren't interested, just drop them to the reserves, make them train with kids and bring in some new players to the starting 11 until the end of the season. Pochettino just looks to have been undermined and if he wants to stay, he has to get that dominance back.

If it's a money issue and Levy isn't willing to pay bigger wages, you just have to wonder what his ambitions are for the club because, rightly or wrongly, there's massive money in football and to stay at the top, you have to pay. It's not like you can always win by being frugal, clubs have to spend big money for success, whether on wages or transfer fees.

It's disappointing to see anyway, I've enjoyed watching Spurs over the last few years and I genuinely thought they had a chance at the title this year but it's all fallen apart.
 
May 19, 2013
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Resign? You have the guts of 50 or 60 million in assets in those 3 players. You gonna just let them walk away?


Bench them and demand they be sold in the transfer window.
 

kf3

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managers tend to lose out in these situations nowdays. most likely demanding either of those things just speeds up his own demise.
 
Jun 14, 2012
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Resign? You have the guts of 50 or 60 million in assets in those 3 players. You gonna just let them walk away?


Bench them and demand they be sold in the transfer window.
They can sign a pre contract in January mate with another club. It was either convince them to resign in the summer or sell them on and Spurs did neither.
 

Jack

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They can sign a pre contract in January mate with another club. It was either convince them to resign in the summer or sell them on and Spurs did neither.
Yeah, and in the process, it's made Pochettino look like a knob to have three key players remain at the club when it doesn't seem that they want to be there. He has to make a call on them now I think. If they want to play, sign a new deal, otherwise fuck them all over because the season now is essentially a write off in terms of winning anything, and in Kane, Son, Ndombele, Moura, Alli, Winks, Dier etc., there is the potential for a galvanised Spurs team to still push for the top 4.

The relationship between Pochettino and Levy seems odd on the surface though, it's pretty passive aggressive. I kinda wonder whether Pochettino is ok with this as it justifies his position.
 
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Yeah, and in the process, it's made Pochettino look like a knob to have three key players remain at the club when it doesn't seem that they want to be there. He has to make a call on them now I think. If they want to play, sign a new deal, otherwise fuck them all over because the season now is essentially a write off in terms of winning anything, and in Kane, Son, Ndombele, Moura, Alli, Winks, Dier etc., there is the potential for a galvanised Spurs team to still push for the top 4.

The relationship between Pochettino and Levy seems odd on the surface though, it's pretty passive aggressive. I kinda wonder whether Pochettino is ok with this as it justifies his position.
There's something seriously wrong there man. Teams can have a downturn in form but to get two batterings in the space of a few days suggests there's internal problems in the team. At the end of the 17/18 season Poch was clearly unhappy with how things were going at Spurs. I know he then signed a new deal but that same summer they brought in nobody. It resulted in a CL final all the same but their league form has tailed off. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a serious difference of opinion between Poch and Levy.

In my opinion he has taken them as far as he could. His Spurs side was a good one but ultimately not good enough and they have hit their ceiling and now the only way is down. They hit a point I think where they needed to invest to get to the next level and it never happened. He'll win trophies with a team who gives him time and money to spend.
 
Jun 14, 2012
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All 3 are out of contract in the summer? What the fuck were spurs thinking?
Could have been relying on them winning the CL last season but I reckon that would have quickened their exit. Fuck knows what went on. Maybe talks were held and the players weren't playing ball. Arsenal were guilty of this for ages too.

I'm surprised more players don't do what Aguero did with Atletico. He was out of contract in the summer and signed a 5 year deal around Christmas time so Atletico could get full whack for him.
 
Jul 18, 2012
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Pretty funny that Eriksen just wanted a move to real/barca but neither actually tried to get him, its like he didnt consider that when he announced he wanted to leave hes a quality player but hes not on the level to just engineer a real/barca move by saying it. One of them will probably have him on a free this summer though just makes this whole saga so pointless.

Have heard loads of people say they just need to change things up a bit like Ferguson used to do every few years, theyve had the basis of this squad with the same manager for a while now and maybe its just got stale. Delle Alli turning from devastating goalscorer to cripple occasional goalscorer hasnt helped either.
 

Jack

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Wolves are beating City. If it stays like this, Liverpool will be 8 points clear after 8 games.
 

Jack

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There's something seriously wrong there man. Teams can have a downturn in form but to get two batterings in the space of a few days suggests there's internal problems in the team. At the end of the 17/18 season Poch was clearly unhappy with how things were going at Spurs. I know he then signed a new deal but that same summer they brought in nobody. It resulted in a CL final all the same but their league form has tailed off. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a serious difference of opinion between Poch and Levy.

In my opinion he has taken them as far as he could. His Spurs side was a good one but ultimately not good enough and they have hit their ceiling and now the only way is down. They hit a point I think where they needed to invest to get to the next level and it never happened. He'll win trophies with a team who gives him time and money to spend.
There's a lot of parrallels between Pochettino and Spurs and Simeone and Atletico I think. Both clubs have always been on the fringes, unable to consistently break through and forced to sell their best players to rivals, but then through some pragmatic changes in play, shrewd signings and bringing through young players, they ended up breaking the dominance. They've both built new grounds and created an infrastructure that's there for the long haul, however, the difference is clear in the last couple of years as Atletico have had to spend big to maintain their position whereas Spurs seem to have this aversion towards paying big wages. Costa, Lemar and Felix are signings which show intent but you look at Spurs and over the last couple of years, they've really lacked that and it has to be demoralising for the players and coaches, who will have all realised that they were only a couple of players away from their goal.

Whether this can be remedied or not, I don't know. I hope so because Spurs are a good club and it'd be great to see them cement a place in the top 4 but it's a mess at the moment. It'll take a big effort from Levy to show the fans, players and Pochettino that he's now serious but we all know what Levy is like, so does anyone think he'd be ready to change and go big in the future?