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Who will win the 2019/20 PL??


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Jun 14, 2012
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There's a lot of parrallels between Pochettino and Spurs and Simeone and Atletico I think. Both clubs have always been on the fringes, unable to consistently break through and forced to sell their best players to rivals, but then through some pragmatic changes in play, shrewd signings and bringing through young players, they ended up breaking the dominance. They've both built new grounds and created an infrastructure that's there for the long haul, however, the difference is clear in the last couple of years as Atletico have had to spend big to maintain their position whereas Spurs seem to have this aversion towards paying big wages. Costa, Lemar and Felix are signings which show intent but you look at Spurs and over the last couple of years, they've really lacked that and it has to be demoralising for the players and coaches, who will have all realised that they were only a couple of players away from their goal.

Whether this can be remedied or not, I don't know. I hope so because Spurs are a good club and it'd be great to see them cement a place in the top 4 but it's a mess at the moment. It'll take a big effort from Levy to show the fans, players and Pochettino that he's now serious but we all know what Levy is like, so does anyone think he'd be ready to change and go big in the future?
The difference between Atletico and Spurs is Atletico actually won something. Them winning La Liga a few years ago was a brilliant achievement. Spurs like is often joked, put the pressure on and I don't think many realisticly thought they'd win a title. What you said about spending is spot on too. Atletico will sell their best players at some stage but they've always had a habit of replacing them particularly the strikers and goalkeepers. Spurs are at the point now where its shit or bust.
 
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Liverpool have looked terrible too. Don't think I've ever seen a team whose points total is so unrepresentative of their performances.
Agreed. When I say this, people just say I am unbelievably negative and so on, but it's true. We were fucking DIRE against Chelsea and Sheffield United and poor against Napoli and shocking defensively against Salzburg. I didn't see the Leicester match, so can't comment fairly, but honestly go and read the BBC or newspaper write ups on many of our matches and you keep seeing "Liverpool were not at their free flowing best" or "Liverpool might not been at their attacking best"...over and over. All of last season too. :lol:

It's like there is this concept of how we are most of the time, and that becomes the default view of our football, when in reality we produce that great stuff in sporadic games or more often in small 15 minute patches within a game. At our best we do look fucking brilliant, but it is so rare for that sort of play to be something more than a few moments within a game. What we have is several brilliant individuals and an immense workrate and belief that grinds teams down. There has also been luck last year and at times this year too, but I think most of the successful teams of the past had this too, although not as much (in my memory) as we did last year.

We can create goals from individual moments too and have a variety of goal threats, but it's very very rare to see us "free flowing" like City do at their best.
 
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He's a figure of ridicule but Bendtner was talented as fuck. Could've been a great player. Wenger never helped him, playing him out wide and shit like that.

An all round better player than Rashford, easily.
I remember there one season where Bendtner went on a mad run of scoring something like 11 goals in 13 games for Arsenal. Don't think he was ever cut out for the top though mate regardless of Wenger.
 

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I remember there one season where Bendtner went on a mad run of scoring something like 11 goals in 13 games for Arsenal. Don't think he was ever cut out for the top though mate regardless of Wenger.
I rated him highly, mate.

I thought he was a great player. Some of his hold up and link up play was magnificent, frankly. Absolutely dominant in the air too. Could tell he had an amazing mind for fitba tae. He'd try things that most players would never even think of but his actual ability let him down haha...but this would've came through the natural development he never really went through. Another problem was that he could do some great things in a game then somehow completely over shadow all the positives with a moment of stupidity.

Honestly, he was my favorite player at the club when he was there. Him and Szeszney.
 
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I rated him highly, mate.

I thought he was a great player. Some of his hold up and link up play was magnificent, frankly. Absolutely dominant in the air too. Could tell he had an amazing mind for fitba tae. He'd try things that most players would never even think of but his actual ability let him down haha...but this would've came through the natural development he never really went through. Another problem was that he could do some great things in a game then somehow completely over shadow all the positives with a moment of stupidity.

Honestly, he was my favorite player at the club when he was there. Him and Szeszney.
I had hopes that he'd eventually iron out his flaws and become a top player but I think it's a case of him just not being good enough man. His career trajectory can't be blamed on Wenger like. I rated Szcesney and thought he'd be our number one for years to come but it wasn't to be.
 
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Christ eng were awful vs Czechs last night. That defence is so wobbly it's scary. So many guys in the team like Keane and rose who are so off form should not be playing....and I say that as a frustrated spurs fan.
 
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Ah ok sterling being booed by some in crowd, ref talking to kane, and the PA may be putting out a warning. Can see this getting worse if eng score again....will the ref take them off maybe.