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Who will win the 2019/20 PL??


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Jul 18, 2012
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The VAR in Liverpool Villa has been insane, 2 goals tight for offisde, goes to VAR they both look identical ie too close to TRULY tell if a foot or finger or whatever is offside - one given, one ruled out.

Fair play to the Villa fans though LOUD "FUCK VAR" chants every time :lol:
 
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So bad to watch, it’s depressing.
If I was a United fan, I'd probably want someone like Eddie Howe to take over. Unlike managers with a bigger profile, he isn't going to come in and demand massive money to be spent and another overhaul, so you can still carry on in the direction that Solskjaer has started them off in, which I think is the right direction for the club at the moment, and he's a very good manager. Let him be the one who can set the style for United and even though I wouldn't bank on United winning anything immediately, it'd be moving in the right direction.

Brilliant win for Liverpool. 1-0 at 86 minutes yet go on to win 2-1. I'm sure it wasn't a great performance but it's such an importnt win for them.
 
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They need a DOF/technical director/whatever just someone who isnt ed woodward making football decisions, lke I would say give Howe a go yes hes definitely a better manager than Solskjaer but dont do what theyve done with Moyes/LVG/Mourinho and make Eddie Howe their entire plan in charge of everything because theres a decent chance he might just be a good lower/mid table manager and not the man to bring united back to to the top of world football, and then you get some other manager with a totally different style who doesnt want his signgings and theyre stuck in that cycle again.

Liverpool were decent, they dont play beautiful football but theyre relentless and effective and it paid off again. And if the VAR decisions either were equal like they should have been or went the other way and Liverpool were 1-0 up then it probably wouldnt have been anywhere near as difficult, Villa played decently though tbf.
 
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If I was a United fan, I'd probably want someone like Eddie Howe to take over. Unlike managers with a bigger profile, he isn't going to come in and demand massive money to be spent and another overhaul, so you can still carry on in the direction that Solskjaer has started them off in, which I think is the right direction for the club at the moment, and he's a very good manager. Let him be the one who can set the style for United and even though I wouldn't bank on United winning anything immediately, it'd be moving in the right direction.

Brilliant win for Liverpool. 1-0 at 86 minutes yet go on to win 2-1. I'm sure it wasn't a great performance but it's such an importnt win for them.
I don’t want another manager, really. They all come in with a 4 year plan, get halfway through, then get fired and the next manager’s got extra players to bin off before he can introduce his long term ideas.

It’s a strange one though. Brendan Rodgers is a cunt of a man but you never see his team going through this ‘transition period’ that a lot of other clubs seem to need. He turns up and within 3-4 weeks his team are playing the way he wants. Other teams seem to have years for their transition period and it’s legitimised by every fucking pundit as well. “It won’t happen overnight”, “These things take years”, etc.

Basically, I haven’t got any answers or ideas.
 
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Emery is surely facing the sack.
I could def see it hes not doing a great job and their fans are just so unhappy it seems inevitable, on the other hand they are 5th and 3 points off 4th though which I think is about exactly where Id expect that team/squad to be.

Itd be funny if he got sacked before Ole somehow though.
 
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I don’t want another manager, really. They all come in with a 4 year plan, get halfway through, then get fired and the next manager’s got extra players to bin off before he can introduce his long term ideas.
But this implies all managers are equal and all managers are equally fitted to the united job and will all get the same results.

What if the next manager came in with a 4 year plan and .....it worked? Sticking with a failed cardiff manager from the norwegian league on the idea that all managers are the same seems an odd choice but Id like to see it.
 
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I don’t want another manager, really. They all come in with a 4 year plan, get halfway through, then get fired and the next manager’s got extra players to bin off before he can introduce his long term ideas.

It’s a strange one though. Brendan Rodgers is a cunt of a man but you never see his team going through this ‘transition period’ that a lot of other clubs seem to need. He turns up and within 3-4 weeks his team are playing the way he wants. Other teams seem to have years for their transition period and it’s legitimised by every fucking pundit as well. “It won’t happen overnight”, “These things take years”, etc.

Basically, I haven’t got any answers or ideas.
The former manager of Cardiff and Molde will never be the answer.

It definitely won't hurt to get a manager who's actually got some pedigree.
 
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The VAR in Liverpool Villa has been insane, 2 goals tight for offisde, goes to VAR they both look identical ie too close to TRULY tell if a foot or finger or whatever is offside - one given, one ruled out.

Fair play to the Villa fans though LOUD "FUCK VAR" chants every time :lol:
VAR is utterly appalling. How the fuck does someone in a room watching the replay go "Yeah Firmino is off"? :lol:
 
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VAR is utterly appalling. How the fuck does someone in a room watching the replay go "Yeah Firmino is off"? :lol:
Don't see an issue with that one because the assistant ref had already flagged it so it's tight enough to stay with the on field decision.
 
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Don't see an issue with that one because the assistant ref had already flagged it so it's tight enough to stay with the on field decision.
The assistants are not supposed to flag though. The directive was assistants don't flag for close offsides, but let VAR settle it. And the only part of Firmino that is offside, is his hand. His feet are clearly behind the "line" and he scores with his foot.
 
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Don't see an issue with that one because the assistant ref had already flagged it so it's tight enough to stay with the on field decision.
If you are the VAR and you have reviewed a too tight to be sure offside decision and given the goal, and then it happens again and you rule out the goal, something has gone wrong.
 
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The assistants are not supposed to flag though. The directive was assistants don't flag for close offsides, but let VAR settle it. And the only part of Firmino that is offside, is his hand. His feet are clearly behind the "line" and he scores with his foot.
They were supposed to delay the flag, not, not flag at all. He did the right thing.

They've measured it from Firmino's shoulder, not his foot.
 
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If you are the VAR and you have reviewed a too tight to be sure offside decision and given the goal, and then it happens again and you rule out the goal, something has gone wrong.
Nope.

Villa goal wasn't flagged.

Liverpool goal was flagged.
 
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But this implies all managers are equal and all managers are equally fitted to the united job and will all get the same results.

What if the next manager came in with a 4 year plan and .....it worked? Sticking with a failed cardiff manager from the norwegian league on the idea that all managers are the same seems an odd choice but Id like to see it.
Mourinho is someone with a proven track record who’s won trophies wherever he’s gone. We sacked him halfway through his plan as well.
 

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The assistants are not supposed to flag though. The directive was assistants don't flag for close offsides, but let VAR settle it. And the only part of Firmino that is offside, is his hand. His feet are clearly behind the "line" and he scores with his foot.
The call is made depending on the most advanced body part that you can legally score from, which is why they were judging his shoulder. If they were judging his hand it wouldn't be offside anyway because you can't score with your hand. Firmino's shoulder was a fraction ahead of the defenders knee so it was perfect use of technology.
 
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Mourinho is someone with a proven track record who’s won trophies wherever he’s gone. We sacked him halfway through his plan as well.
Yes, it didnt work he was past his best and a bad fit with the squad same with LVG, sometimes great managers dont do great at clubs for whatever reason. Its very strange logic to then decide to give up on ever trying to ever have a good manager again.

Also Mourinho had SIGNIFICANTLY better results than Solsjkear.