The most honest man in boxing.

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I am just saying how he came across. Came across great in the Kugan interview, came across as a bit of a dick in that one. It makes no difference to me, but I would be annoyed if I was the lad working his arse off trying to get my channel big. If he has wronged Fury in some way..fair enough, but I don't know of anything like that. Then again, Fury has mental health issues that are presumably ongoing, and perhaps he was in a weird frame of mind at that moment, but it came across badly.
 
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Not deluded in his ability (unless we are talking about his power) He is deluded in how honest and genuine he is in character. For example, one minute he says you have to respect Joshua and Wilder because they are champions and fighting men. The next, he says they are both bums and 'dossers'.

People have split opinion of him depending on which interview they watched. He is full of shit most of the time and people see through it. He is deluded in thinking they don't.

p.s. can anyone read the words 'fighting men' without Fury's accent. :lol:
So he is just like every other normal person who doesnt put a front on for the camera. Most people are up and down, never ever trust a man whose nice all the time.
 
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Fury and Wilder have already fought and are fighting again, who is the missing link from the equation? It’s not hard to figure out who the bullshit artists are.
Indeed - all three of them, as Fury has done the opposite of what he said he'd do. It's fine, we can agree to disagree, but you're looking at him through rose-tinted glasses if you think he didn't just take the money over the fighting man glory (which is fine, it's what most of us would do, it just marks him out as no different).
 
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Indeed - all three of them, as Fury has done the opposite of what he said he'd do. It's fine, we can agree to disagree, but you're looking at him through rose-tinted glasses if you think he didn't just take the money over the fighting man glory (which is fine, it's what most of us would do, it just marks him out as no different).

Fury fought Wilder in America, there is no way you can say he is not willing to take the big dangerous fights. If I'm not mistaken, he has also agreed a deal in principle to face Wilder again,the biggest puncher in boxing. You cannot blame Tyson for the big fights not happening, whatever your allegiance is.
 
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Indeed - all three of them, as Fury has done the opposite of what he said he'd do. It's fine, we can agree to disagree, but you're looking at him through rose-tinted glasses if you think he didn't just take the money over the fighting man glory (which is fine, it's what most of us would do, it just marks him out as no different).
I know we need 'characters' but it seems being a buffoon is part of a HW boxer's job requirement. They seem compelled to offer up all the bluster and bravado, a bit like rappers do. (I know AJ comes over differently but it's hardly natural in his case, just all corporate PR bollocks).

Joe Joyce is educated and seems very grounded without being too dull (Parker/Gorman/Dubois). It's a breath of fresh air.
 
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Joe Joyce is educated and seems very grounded without too dull
Jesus, you're in a generous mood. :lol: Joyce is one of the dullest characters around, only outshone in total lack of personality by Dubois.

That said, personality should come a distant second, to what a boxer does in the ring, when deciding who we like to follow.

Joyce does seem like a nice guy.
 
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Generally, I wish I could 'like' your posts twice. Your two in this thread are a perfect example.

Fury's ESPN deal made plain to me that they're all broadly the same, they just come packaged differently. Fair enough to take the money, but the past year or two have demonstrated that all of the top heavyweights (and their handlers) spin their own line of nonsense when it suits them.
Well of course they’re all broadly the same, you wouldn’t work for free would you? Or if you were offered some work but your partner in that work was gonna make double the money for doing exactly the same, would you be happy with it or would you explore all your options and look to maximise your pay? Now imagine you had until you were 35 to earn the majority of money in your career?!

It’s simple really. Money talks! Belts are nice to have but they don’t pay your bills.
 

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That’s pretty laughable if anybody thinks that tbh considering he just fought Wilder and is fighting him again. Fury would deal with Whyte handily.
Lol. He is dodging Whyte. I can understand why as even though they could sell out Wembley Fury knows Whyte's power could destroy him and there's no belt on offer. Whyte is a better boxer than Wilder and would connect way more often. Fury's dodging all fight antics wouldn't work. It's easily a 50/50 fight and Fury wants to keep his chance at Wilder but despite his 'i'll fight anyone' claims, he chickened out!
 
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Lol. He is dodging Whyte. I can understand why as even though they could sell out Wembley Fury knows Whyte's power could destroy him and there's no belt on offer. Whyte is a better boxer than Wilder and would connect way more often. Fury's dodging all fight antics wouldn't work. It's easily a 50/50 fight and Fury wants to keep his chance at Wilder but despite his 'i'll fight anyone' claims, he chickened out!
Dodging Whyte who holds no titles and was knocked out by Joshua to fight the most dangerous heavyweight on the planet and the wbc champion. Yeah that makes sense
 

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Dodging Whyte who holds no titles and was knocked out by Joshua to fight the most dangerous heavyweight on the planet and the wbc champion. Yeah that makes sense
Whyte's record since AJ has been spotless , especially beating Parker. He hasn't fought the big 3 because Wilder and the WBC (who appear to be in his pocket) won't make him mnadatory despite about 2 years as their no1. Fury isn't fighting Wilder until at least 2020 (from Fury's own mouth) and he is fighting in Sep and Dec (again from Fury's own mouth). If he was as confident he could beat everyone, he would fight Whyte at Wembley in Sep or Cardiff in Dec take a big payday and then move on to Wilder. But he won't because he knows there is a BIG chance he'll be KO'd
 
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Whyte's record since AJ has been spotless , especially beating Parker. He hasn't fought the big 3 because Wilder and the WBC (who appear to be in his pocket) won't make him mnadatory despite about 2 years as their no1. Fury isn't fighting Wilder until at least 2020 (from Fury's own mouth) and he is fighting in Sep and Dec (again from Fury's own mouth). If he was as confident he could beat everyone, he would fight Whyte at Wembley in Sep or Cardiff in Dec take a big payday and then move on to Wilder. But he won't because he knows there is a BIG chance he'll be KO'd
Wilder and Fury both make mince meat of Whyte. AJ and Ruiz both smash him to pieces as well. Pulev would be a strong favourite to beat Whyte also. I’m sure Fury is shaking in his boots.
 

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Jesus, you're in a generous mood. :lol: Joyce is one of the dullest characters around, only outshone in total lack of personality by Dubois.

That said, personality should come a distant second, to what a boxer does in the ring, when deciding who we like to follow.

Joyce does seem like a nice guy.
I did say he wasn't too dull. Emphasis on too. :lol:

Yes they definitely get a pass on personality if they captivate in the ring. At the end of the day they're men who fight not entertainers although it's great when the two go together.
 
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Wilder and Fury both make mince meat of Whyte. AJ and Ruiz both smash him to pieces as well. Pulev would be a strong favourite to beat Whyte also. I’m sure Fury is shaking in his boots.
Unsurprisingly I completely disagree but I doubt we'll found as your lover will dodge him till the cows come home.
 
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Unsurprisingly I completely disagree but I doubt we'll found as your lover will dodge him till the cows come home.
You disagree because you know nothing about boxing which you have proved over the last couple of weeks with shit nonsensical posts.
 
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Deluded how?

He went to Germany and dethroned the most boring heavyweight in history. He beat him in his own backgarden when no one gave him a prayer and most referred to him as a joke.

He schooled and bewildered the bully, took away his right hand stood him on his head. Wlad was done before he got in there with Tyson, the Furys are no ones mugs and they refused to bow to every little trick the nasty devil worshipper tried pulling.

Fury really has all the belts. He has won every single version of the world title in the ring. He is unbeaten, he is the the best heavyweight on the planet.
How about the 6 inches of foam the Klits had under the ring apron? They'd been doing as they pleased for years til the Furys came along.
 
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Fury fought Wilder in America, there is no way you can say he is not willing to take the big dangerous fights. If I'm not mistaken, he has also agreed a deal in principle to face Wilder again,the biggest puncher in boxing. You cannot blame Tyson for the big fights not happening, whatever your allegiance is.
I didn't say that he is not willing to take the big dangerous fights, I don't doubt that he is, and that he wants Wilder again. So you're defending a point I did not make. But he has made that harder to achieve by going for the big money TV deal option, a deal which has brought us Schwarz as an opponent, which is at odds with his previously stated priorities. Fury is enormously positive, and wants to take on the toughest challenges, and I have an awful lot of time for his stance on mental health. I just think that in a period where all of his options bring him many, many millions, it is a shame that he went this specific route, as it is exactly the move which AJ and Wilder would have made, and for which he would have criticised them. So fundamentally, they're all the same, just packaged differently.

Well of course they’re all broadly the same, you wouldn’t work for free would you? Or if you were offered some work but your partner in that work was gonna make double the money for doing exactly the same, would you be happy with it or would you explore all your options and look to maximise your pay? Now imagine you had until you were 35 to earn the majority of money in your career?!

It’s simple really. Money talks! Belts are nice to have but they don’t pay your bills.
Noone is suggesting that anyone should work for free, but at this point all of his options lead to millions, so I think he's a little past worrying about the bills. The maximising income argument works to a point (I left law enforcement to become a currency trader, trust me I am committed to maximising income as life shortens and responsibilities grow), but Fury is one of the lucky few who get to breathe the rarefied air beyond such mundane concerns. So for me it's a shame that he simply made the play which AJ and Wilder (and, for that matter, Whyte and several others) would have made.

And I'm not really talking about belts, either - Fury doesn't even have one, yet can earn more than AJ or Wilder if he chooses to.
 
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Tyson in one of his moods. Awkward interview!
I haven't watched this interview, and never will, but you do have to take Tyson as you find him. I did him for Boxing News last year on a day when he clearly couldn't be mithered with me and I'd done loads with him over the years. They seem more keen on video stuff these days so maybe this channel got him on the wrong day or he doesn't value them enough to give them the full Fury experience. It is something you just take into account when talking to him. He was in America once and paused our interview so he could talk to a homeless man's dog.

I was on pay as you go at the time.