Hall of Fame The Official 'I have something to say about Boxing that doesn't warrant its own thread' Thread

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I don't get the Ramírez-Hart rematch. It wasn't even that competitive the first time round but you have Dan Rafael writing articles about it being close and how a rematch is deserved cos he's on the payroll. It's a crap fight.
Easy fight to make and keeps the title in house. Both are Top Rank/ESPN, Hart is no1 in the WBO ranking and Ramirez has avoided any hint at unification so far as champion.
 
Jun 6, 2013
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I don't get why people say "hold your head high" and shit like after watching a British fighter get absolutely destroyed and humiliated in front of the world. I like Fielding but he effectively sold his title by taking the fight, that isn't something to congratulate someone for. He's a young guy with a missus and a newborn to support, if he's happy with his career and just wanted to cash out well then God bless and good luck with the rest of his life. He's talking about carrying on though, why and where on Earth could he go? Before last night he had a title and could have defended it at the Echo on some big cards for the city. Instead he chose to throw that away for a glorified holiday to New York.

You really are able to separate the winners from the losers when stuff like this goes down, some of the stuff I've read on social media in reaction to that thrashing is just laughable and embarrassing.
 
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@PaulieMc, I agree with you that he did"sell" his title. But he also knew that he would not get anywhere near the million plus pounds he got for it elsewhere. He can handle most of the EU and UK fighters and hopefully can put a few more shillings in the bank for his family. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 
Jul 21, 2013
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I don't get why people say "hold your head high" and shit like after watching a British fighter get absolutely destroyed and humiliated in front of the world. I like Fielding but he effectively sold his title by taking the fight, that isn't something to congratulate someone for. He's a young guy with a missus and a newborn to support, if he's happy with his career and just wanted to cash out well then God bless and good luck with the rest of his life. He's talking about carrying on though, why and where on Earth could he go? Before last night he had a title and could have defended it at the Echo on some big cards for the city. Instead he chose to throw that away for a glorified holiday to New York.

You really are able to separate the winners from the losers when stuff like this goes down, some of the stuff I've read on social media in reaction to that thrashing is just laughable and embarrassing.
No different to Lockett against Pavlik. A fighter who’s heart isn’t really in it getting a pay day. I’d be surprised if he carries on when future fights will probably bring a purse of less than 1/20th of what he got last night
 
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No different to Lockett against Pavlik. A fighter who’s heart isn’t really in it getting a pay day. I’d be surprised if he carries on when future fights will probably bring a purse of less than 1/20th of what he got last night
Didn't Lockett say that he had bigger interests outside of boxing before the Pavlik fight? Strange for a guy who seemingly only boxed because he was good at it to continue on as a trainer.
 
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Didn't Lockett say that he had bigger interests outside of boxing before the Pavlik fight? Strange for a guy who seemingly only boxed because he was good at it to continue on as a trainer.
Yes I'm sure he did, think he mentioned he had invested in a couple of properties. I think ultimately, the main thing was that his heart just wasn't in it whilst training himself. Even Shane McGuigan, who does love the game by all accounts, has spoken of himself just not having the motivation to train to that level. Maybe being the actualy trainer just suits some people better.
 
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Yes I'm sure he did, think he mentioned he had invested in a couple of properties. I think ultimately, the main thing was that his heart just wasn't in it whilst training himself. Even Shane McGuigan, who does love the game by all accounts, has spoken of himself just not having the motivation to train to that level. Maybe being the actualy trainer just suits some people better.
Yeah I suppose so. McGuigan won an Irish intermediate title I believe.
 
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Didn't Lockett say that he had bigger interests outside of boxing before the Pavlik fight? Strange for a guy who seemingly only boxed because he was good at it to continue on as a trainer.
I think he’s done well outside of the sport with property if I remember right. I think he trains fighters because he enjoys it & he’s got the time but I think he’d just had enough of fighting himself.
 

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@DB Cooper, Archie Moore often Went from190 to 175 he defended his title against Olson at this weight in 1954. . And again a number of times throughout his long career he went from 196 to 175. In all he had 219 fights . He was born in 1916 and died in 1998. I met him in New York in the early nineties, I asked him who was the hardest fighter he had met and he said without hesitation Yvonne Durelle. I have a glove signed by the great man in my hallway. Regards Mervyn The Gee