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Should be an excellent weekend of action, four decent fights over two days. @sugarshane_24 who you backing for Ancajas-Sultan?
The boxing analyst in me picks Ancajas simply for being a much more proven fighter. His best wins are as step above Sultan.

The boxing fan in me picks Ancajas simply because I have seen and judged his fights when he was still a six rounder (i have officially scored fights of two world champions now, Sonny Boy Jaro and Ancajas :smile), plus he trains in the same province that I live, and lastly I am not exactly a fan of ALA stable.
 

Lester1583

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Y’all musta forgot!
How did G’s use to promote the fight?

Maybe they talked shit on Twitter?

Or maybe they posted some stupid memes on Instagram?

Or maybe they ducked each other for years to marinate it?

Fuck no.

They promoted fights by fighting.

1 months before one of the biggest events of the year:

1 month - let that sink in.

Notice that Chavez was only mildly irritated - such was the irresistible force of Macho’s personality - just good ol’ friendly trash talk.

And then they kicked the shit out of each other (well, JC mostly did the kicking) for 12 rounds.

Hugged, went partying, did coke.

Zero fucks given.
 

Zopilote

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How did G’s use to promote the fight?

Maybe they talked shit on Twitter?

Or maybe they posted some stupid memes on Instagram?

Or maybe they ducked each other for years to marinate it?

Fuck no.

They promoted fights by fighting.

1 months before one of the biggest events of the year:

1 month - let that sink in.

Notice that Chavez was only mildly irritated - such was the irresistible force of Macho’s personality - just good ol’ friendly trash talk.

And then they kicked the shit out of each other (well, JC mostly did the kicking) for 12 rounds.

Hugged, went partying, did coke.

Zero fucks given.
They don’t make ‘em like they used to anymore.
 

Lester1583

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They don’t make ‘em like they used to anymore.
The first ever Gilberto Roman avatar in the history of internet.

Mexico's top 15/top 20, a contender for the best super flyweight ever - dies young and you can't even find more than a dozen photos of him.

Conspiracy?

- I fucking did it!
 
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Zopilote

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The first ever Gilberto Roman avatar in the history of internet.

Mexico's top 15/top 20, a contender for the best super flyweight ever - dies young and you can't even find more than a dozen photos of him.

Conspiracy?

- I fucking did it!
Been watching a lot of Roman lately. Wonderful little fighter. Yeh, about top 15 Mexican sounds right, and the SuperFly GOAT IMO. Also gives Arguello and Zarate a run for their money on the mustache game!
 

Zopilote

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It doesn’t have the same timeless hatred, but the Laciar trilogy is easily on par with Morales-Barrera skill-wise.
Excellent series indeed! The infighting is better in this series IMO.

What did you think of the result for the first fight? I’ve always heard that razor close fights always get scored as draws in Argentina. I may be biased, but I honestly think Roman edged it. Laciar is a freaking tank though, and very relentless.
 

Lester1583

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I may be biased, but I honestly think Roman edged it.
I’m fine with the official decision.

It’s just one of those close fights where it’s all about subjective criteria - basically, what do you prefer: Roman’s non-stop elite jabbing and superior ring generalship in the second half or Laciar’s wild yet calculated hooks in the first.

The problem is both were also good at defending themselves - there were only a couple of clean round-decisive shots from each fighter.

By the way, it looked like Laciar slightly hurt Roman with the right hand in the 6th - and Roman slightly hurt Laciar to the body in the 9th.

The infighting is better in this series IMO.
It is.

I’ve always heard that razor close fights always get scored as draws in Argentina.
There was a rule that a margin less than 4 points results in a draw.

Monzon, Locche old fights, etc.

Laciar is a freaking tank though, and very relentless.
And versatile to boot - I’ve seen him fight off the backfoot and school fools mini-Galindez-style.
 
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With more meat in his punches.
But less of a gas tank, or atleast, less consistency of maintaining that footwork, defensive awareness and offensive output throughout a full 12 round fight, every minute.

Canizales is P4P, the best boxer to watch to me (so smooth and he looked to have everything). When I put people that got hyped off of those "Matrix" videos and HBO/ESPN hype of Loma, onto some Orlando they shut up bout "never before seen talent" real quick.

But I made sure not to show them the full fights. Against Seabrooks, the second time, to me his best and most beautiful performance of his career, Orlando still took his minutes to rest, went defensive and got touched up. A theme throughout his career that saw him have tougher fights with lesser fighters than he should of. Which, with a resume of only mediocre opponents in his prime, is all we can go off on.

Young Gomez however... the god. He had all that shit and a bag of chips. Loma can't compare.
 
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But less of a gas tank, or atleast, less consistency of maintaining that footwork, defensive awareness and offensive output throughout a full 12 round fight, every minute.

Canizales is P4P, the best boxer to watch to me (so smooth and he looked to have everything). When I put people that got hyped off of those "Matrix" videos and HBO/ESPN hype of Loma, onto some Orlando they shut up bout "never before seen talent" real quick.

But I made sure not to show them the full fights. Against Seabrooks, the second time, to me his best and most beautiful performance of his career, Orlando still took his minutes to rest, went defensive and got touched up. A theme throughout his career that saw him have tougher fights with lesser fighters than he should of. Which, with a resume of only mediocre opponents in his prime, is all we can go off on.

Young Gomez however... the god. He had all that shit and a bag of chips. Loma can't compare.
Very good post.