"There is a collusion plot to keep Joshua out" - Eddie Hearn

DB Cooper

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There is a collusion plot to shut Anthony Joshua out of the major fights according to Eddie Hearn.

"People try and block, and people want you to fail. Other promoters, other fighters don’t like Joshua’s position in the marketplace. So there’s this collusion."

"They say ‘that’s the deal, it’s 50-50."

“I just think it’s disappointing that some people don’t put a value on being number one. It’s got to be about the money and the legacy and at the moment it’s just about the money for some people."

“I would like to see Dillian Whyte take the fight but he has a perception of his value in the fight which is not in accordance with Anthony’s perception of Dillian’s value. It’s frustrating because I want to deliver Dillian a world title shot. But again I think he thinks that he’s a guy who thinks he should be on 60-40, 50-50. He sees himself as a Fury and Wilder."

“Dillian Whyte is a pay per view fighter now. If he doesn’t fight Joshua, he’ll go in April… But there’s only one Box Office fighter who could fight anybody. The others have got to be in proper fights with real strong undercards. It’s always been the way.

“We’ll have one in April if Joshua goes to America, one in June.”

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-massive-collusion-to-shut-out-anthony-joshua/
 
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DB Cooper

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Hahahaha. What a tool.

Cus nobody will take what Hearn fancies giving them, Joshua is getting frozen out.

No Ed, it's cus you're so transparent.
I trust Hearn remembers pointing out to Whyte that Fury & Wilder are worth 60-40, 50-50 when it comes time to negotiating with Fury & Wilder.
 
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“I would like to see Dillian Whyte take the fight but he has a perception of his value in the fight which is not in accordance with Anthony’s perception of Dillian’s value. It’s frustrating because I want to deliver Dillian a world title shot. But again I think he thinks that he’s a guy who thinks he should be on 60-40, 50-50. He sees himself as a Fury and Wilder."
Hmm, I wonder why he thinks...

“Dillian Whyte is a pay per view fighter now."
Oh yeah.
 
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its mad how many people want him to fail. i like him, hes been great for boxing in the uk. boxing in the us seems to be on the up again, hes part of that, whats not to like? same with warren, hes had an amazing 2017, maybe agian for 2019?
 
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“I would like to see Dillian Whyte take the fight but he has a perception of his value in the fight which is not in accordance with Anthony’s perception of Dillian’s... But there’s only one Box Office fighter who could fight anybody.
And who's that Eddie? What, the guy who won't allow a rival to have equal money in order to fight them? :lol:

Whyte doesn't warrant 50/50, but the fact that Hearn said he thinks he deserves "60-40, 50-50" shows you that AJ/Hearn won't even offer Whyte 40%. So AJ will fight anybody, provided they agree for him to keep more than 60% of the money on offer? :lol: What a legend.

We can deduce that Whyte's improved offer from Hearn was probably about 32.5%, and fair enough he told them to do one.
 

DB Cooper

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Hearn and Joshua are very good at telling opponents they should be fighting for belts and legacy while Joshua takes home all the money.

But Hearn saying 'which is not in accordance with Anthony’s perception of Dillian’s value' has an overtone of self exclusion. Perhaps because he was/is also supposed to be looking out for Whyte interests in the negotiation?
 

DB Cooper

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its mad how many people want him to fail. i like him, hes been great for boxing in the uk. boxing in the us seems to be on the up again, hes part of that, whats not to like? same with warren, hes had an amazing 2017, maybe agian for 2019?
Anthony Joshua has been great for UK boxing - undeniably so - and by and large Eddie Hearn has been good for UK boxing too.

But the average person will only tolerate so much greed and aloofness from an athlete, and Joshua & Hearn have already exceeded the tolerance level of many boxing fans.

That the other top level guys have dug their toes in and said enough can only be good for boxing. Hearn has put his twist on it of course by claiming they are trying to shut Joshua out of big fights, but that could hardly be further from reality.

Truth is if Hearn & Joshua stop playing scrooge and start actually negotiating, the big fights that people want to see will actually happen and the public is wising up to that.
 

DB Cooper

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True. Life's a negotiation.

Like it or not, Eddie out negotiates everyone. It's sport for him. He loves the wheeling and dealing. :yep
Hearn has managed to bully Joshua's opponents into accepting unders until recently. But that all ended with Fury-Wilder. Even Hearn himself knows that. Even though he has applied his usual spin to it.
 
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Anthony Joshua has been great for UK boxing - undeniably so - and by and large Eddie Hearn has been good for UK boxing too.

But the average person will only tolerate so much greed and aloofness from an athlete, and Joshua & Hearn have already exceeded the tolerance level of many boxing fans.

That the other top level guys have dug their toes in and said enough can only be good for boxing. Hearn has put his twist on it of course by claiming they are trying to shut Joshua out of big fights, but that could hardly be further from reality.

Truth is if Hearn & Joshua stop playing scrooge and start actually negotiating, the big fights that people want to see will actually happen and the public is wising up to that.
ive been watching boxing for over twenty years. to be honest ive always preferred uk boxing to us/global fights no matter how big. the last few years there has been more of these type of matchups than ive ever seen before, not just from matchroom as well. before we had situations like murry/barker/maklin/lee never fighting. right now is a high water mark for uk boxing, i reckon its downhill from here.

i dont give a fuck what anyone says aj has a great resume for 20 odd fights way better than fury or wilder at the same point. as far as im concerned hes being managed perfectly as hes not actually that good. hes no lennox lewis. his team need to time his elite level fights perfectly to give him a proper chance of winning. hes been managed better than any fighter ive ever seen, again i dont give a fuck what anyone says.

also aj is like froch, maximising every single thing to give himself the best possible chance of winning. its so impressive, imagine if bjs or brook had done that. some of the matchroom hate, like that porky guy on yt is hilarious, but loads of it is just tedious. uk boxing is hilarious at times, to be honest i think i prefer that to the fights sometimes.
 
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“I just think it’s disappointing that some people don’t put a value on being number one. It’s got to be about the money and the legacy and at the moment it’s just about the money for some people."
Fuck me Eddie Hearn calling the kettle black surely even he couldn’t keep a straight face coming out with that shite.

Joshua always talks about legacy being the most important thing it’s now abundantly clear that the money is the only thing he gives a fuck about.