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Tommy Robinson: Fan or Not A Fan?

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Why do people act so perplexed when I compared the EDL and BLM?

One campaigns for there people to stop being shot by racist policeman.

The other campaigns for there children to stop being raped by Peadophiles.

However one group has much more data to suggest that they are indeed the victims of racial profiling and they are the ones who receives the Racist label.
 
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Akala attended a university near where I was living I went to his seminar and spent most of my time on my phone.

During the Q&A I asked him why he implied that the Tory supporter in the crowd was a racist for suggesting '' Dudley was a typical working class town'' and not Lewisham or Hackney.

I told him Dudley was the perfect example of a working class town as its ethnic composition was a clone of the wider UK population.

He went off topic rambling something about Tories forgetting about high immigrant populated areas, I asked three times to stay on topic before he tried personally mocking me.

I mocked his failed UK Garage career and was then asked to leave by some scruffy white guy in dreadlocks.
 
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Akala attended a university near where I was living I went to his seminar and spent most of my time on my phone.

During the Q&A I asked him why he implied that the Tory supporter in the crowd was a racist for suggesting '' Dudley was a typical working class town'' and not Lewisham or Hackney.

I told him Dudley was the perfect example of a working class town as its ethnic composition was a clone of the wider UK population.

He went off topic rambling something about Tories forgetting about high immigrant populated areas, I asked three times to stay on topic before he tried personally mocking me.

I mocked his failed UK Garage career and was then asked to leave by some scruffy white guy in dreadlocks.
When was this haha
 
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What ad hominem attack he bring on ya?

Only victim leftist blacks and middle class white cucks fuck with that melon. I remember seeing him at Oxford uni claiming ancient egpyptians were sub-saharan africans. Sure he will tell you king james was a black man as well.
 
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What ad hominem attack he bring on ya?

Only victim leftist blacks and middle class white cucks fuck with that melon. I remember seeing him at Oxford uni claiming ancient egpyptians were sub-saharan africans. Sure he will tell you king james was a black man as well.
He is politics Clarke Carlisle lol
 
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@The Kraken discuss this rather then trying to play Roy Shaw you spastic

Why do you get the impression that I'm some liberal guilt afflicted SJW? I am against the profiling of all people based on their religion or "community they come from" which is something again we hear a lot of over here, the case against the parachute regiment (same regiment that was caught shooting pictures of Corbyn) and their execution of civilians over here and one of their own soldiers said "some of the men I served with were psychopaths, making bets on the kills they could get. Anybody and everybody was considered a member of the IRA" and we have to hear how they shouldn't be prosecuted because "they were just doing their jobs"



The justification against the murder of people in my community by men like Joe Bratty were that all the taigs are either IRA supporters or they helkped cover for "republican crimes"
You mentioned how I would feel if my house was attacked, well it's ironic because like I said, I come from the Ormeau Road and my house is on the first street across the bridge over the Lagan, and while I was thankfully a little young to remember everything, I do remember my uncle being shot by Brattys unit and the other absolutely disgusting thingis that went on around here

Let me give you a little profile of Joe Bratty and some of his units greatest hits, he has his own wikipedia page

"Joe Bratty (c. 1961 - 31 July 1994) was a Northern Irish loyalist paramilitary and a leading member of the Ulster Defence Association's South Belfast Brigade. The head of UDA activity in the area during one of the organisation's most active phases, Bratty was suspected by security forces of playing a role in, or at least orchestrating, around 15 killings. "

Bratty commemorated with other South Belfast UDA members on a Sandy Row plaque

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Bratty first came to attention in his native Ballynafeigh (an area in south Belfast) as a teenage street-fighter battling with local Catholic/republican youths and was responsible for altering the Workers' Party of Ireland slogan "Sectarianism Kills Workers" on the side of Havelock House to "Sectarianism Kills Taigs".[1] Bratty, who was also known for his hatred of black people, also appended the initials of the Ku Klux Klan to this piece of graffiti.[1] During his years as a street-fighter, Bratty, who had distinctive oriental shaped eyes, was given the nickname 'Chinky' by his Catholic opponents.[1] Given the proximity of the two communities on the Ormeau Road, Bratty had grown up alongside Catholics and as such had for a number of years been accused of terrorising people he knew to be Catholic with beatings and intimidation before becoming involved in murder around 1990.[2]

UDA activity



Ulster Freedom Fighters insignia continues to be displayed in the Annadale Flats area, January 2012

Eventually, Bratty became head of the UDA in Ballynafeigh, leading his own unit from Annadale Flats. Bratty's unit struck on 7 September 1990 when they entered the house of a 34-year-old Catholic, Emmanuel Shields, and shot him dead as he lay in bed with his pregnant girlfriend. According to his family, Shields, who had a criminal record but not for republican activity, had regularly been targeted by Bratty and his associates for physical attack in the past and they had fired shots into his mother's house in nearby Burmah Street when he lived with her.[2] Bratty christened his unit 'Ku Klux Klan', and members of the group, including himself, had the initials KKK tattooed on their arms.[3]

Bratty, together with Stephen "Inch" McFerran, UDA military commander for the Ormeau area and RUC Special Branch agent,[4] ordered the attack on the lower Ormeau branch of Sean Graham's bookmakers on 5 February 1992, an act resulting in the death of five civilian men.[5]


Eventually, Bratty became head of the UDA in Ballynafeigh, leading his own unit from Annadale Flats. Bratty's unit struck on 7 September 1990 when they entered the house of a 34-year-old Catholic, Emmanuel Shields, and shot him dead as he lay in bed with his pregnant girlfriend. According to his family, Shields, who had a criminal record but not for republican activity, had regularly been targeted by Bratty and his associates for physical attack in the past and they had fired shots into his mother's house in nearby Burmah Street when he lived with her.[2] Bratty christened his unit 'Ku Klux Klan', and members of the group, including himself, had the initials KKK tattooed on their arms.[3]
Bratty, together with Stephen "Inch" McFerran, UDA military commander for the Ormeau area and RUC Special Branch agent,[4] ordered the attack on the lower Ormeau branch of Sean Graham's bookmakers on 5 February 1992, an act resulting in the death of five civilian men.[5]His right-hand man, Raymond Elder, was identified by witnesses as one of the gunmen in the attack, and fibres from the getaway car were found on his denims.[6] Bratty was widely believed to have been present during the attack, although the rest of the team that Bratty sent was made up of UDA members from East Belfast rather than local members.[7] Another gunman had been provided by UDA West Belfast Brigadeleader Johnny Adair, who had first conceived of the action.[8] Alex Kerr, Bratty's commanding officer as South Belfast brigadier, commended the attack, claiming that Lower Ormeau residents had been involved in shielding republicans before suggesting that the attack was revenge for the Teebane bombing.[7]
In addition to the 5 February Ormeau Road shootings, Bratty's unit was allegedly involved in the murder of Michael Gilbride, a Catholic taxi driver who had settled in the Lower Ormeau area.[9] Gilbride was killed outside his parents' home on Fernwood Street not far from Bratty's Annadale Flats base.[10] Another victim was Donna Wilson, a Protestant and resident of Annadale Flats who had recently moved to the area from Tullycarnet, East Belfast. A number of residents had complained to Bratty in his role as local UDA commander about the noise of her stereo and he assembled a team of ten men armed with baseball bats who broke in, beat her to death (seriously injuring three of her companions) and wrecked the flat. In the end, only a sixty-year-old who had led the complaints to Bratty was charged in relation to Wilson's death.[11] Bratty was also identified as the getaway driverfor the attack in which Teresa Clinton, the wife of a Sinn Féin election candidate, was murdered in her Lower Ormeau home.[12] Thomas "Tucker" Annett, one of Bratty's closest lieutenants, was identified as the main gunman although not charged. Annett died on 12 July 1996 as part of an internal UDA dispute when two fellow members of the organisation kicked him to death outside a bar on the Ormeau Road.[12] One of the killers has since been identified as Stephen "Inch" McFerran.[4]


Death[edit]
Bratty was first targeted in late 1991 by the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) when they decided to adopt the tactic of focusing on prominent loyalist paramilitaries alongside the security forces. Bratty's Annadale Flats home was attacked on 13 November, but Bratty was not at home and no one was hurt.[13] Some time after this attack, Bratty moved from the Annadale Flats to live in Greenwood Lodge on the Upper Newtownards Road in East Belfast.[14]
Bratty and Raymond Elder were shot dead by the IRA on 31 July 1994, in an act seen as one of a number of "revenge attacks" immediately prior to the IRA ceasefire. The pair had been drinking in the Kimberley Bar off the Ormeau Road unaware that two gunmen were waiting outside in a van, and both died at the scene of the attack.[15] The gunmen were armed with AK-47 assault rifles.[16] The getaway car was pursued by a Royal Ulster Constabulary vehicle that was in the area but the chase stopped when the police vehicle was impeded by a crowd of republicans.[15][17] Bratty was 33 years old at the time of his death.[18] He left behind a widow and three children. His son was given honorary membership of the Paisley Imperial Blues flute band, the leading UDA-aligned flute band in Scotland, immediately following his father's death.[19]
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Contemporaneous graffiti celebrating the killings of Bratty and Elder, still extant in 2017. Lower Ormeau Road
The killing of Bratty was greeted with relief, even by some nationalist residents of the Lower Ormeau normally opposed to violence.[15]However, the aftermath saw three Catholics killed by the UDA in separate attacks with these sparking a series of IRA bomb attacks on loyalist bars, thus bringing about a temporary return to the spiral of tit-for-tat killing

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Now Let me tell you, back then it would probably curdle your stomach how many regular working people supported the likes of what Bratty was doing, because they were being pelted with propaganda from left right and center about the evils of the fenians, and not only that,you talk about your community not going to the police, but the "police" where I came from were helping Joe Bratty carry out his murders!!!
The best one was when they said the rifle used in the Ormeau Road bookies shooting was destroyed, only for it to turn up in the imperial war museum!!
They were given weapons to carry out their attacks by the RUC/Special branch, British Army and British government, but I don't blame every protestant for the evils of Joe Bratty and Raymond Elder,
I don't ask my protestant girlfriend why HER people did that to MY people, because she had fuck all to do with it.

I am not against sending Muslim grooming gangs to jail and throwing away the key, I am not against criticising Islam or any other religion that is for damn sure, but I am against demagoguery and I've seen first hand what it can do
 
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Why do people act so perplexed when I compared the EDL and BLM?

One campaigns for there people to stop being shot by racist policeman.

The other campaigns for there children to stop being raped by Peadophiles.

However one group has much more data to suggest that they are indeed the victims of racial profiling and they are the ones who receives the Racist label.

One campaign for the removal of all immigrants and non whites..or as they put it..."Send the black cunts home"

The first voice you hear here is Tommy Robinsons, the second is the guy who he hands the microphone to:



Did you seriously just say EDL members get unfairly profiled more than black people get unfairly executed by cops in America???
 
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Akala attended a university near where I was living I went to his seminar and spent most of my time on my phone.

During the Q&A I asked him why he implied that the Tory supporter in the crowd was a racist for suggesting '' Dudley was a typical working class town'' and not Lewisham or Hackney.

I told him Dudley was the perfect example of a working class town as its ethnic composition was a clone of the wider UK population.

He went off topic rambling something about Tories forgetting about high immigrant populated areas, I asked three times to stay on topic before he tried personally mocking me.

I mocked his failed UK Garage career and was then asked to leave by some scruffy white guy in dreadlocks.

Did you not offer him a fair dig outside no? :bbb
 
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Yep all of my Muslim mates smoke weed and that has always confused me because it is considered a sin. None of them are capable of crazy terrorist acts though lol they are just normal guys from the area who happen to have been born into a Muslim family.

Really? No.... I thought they were a fundamentally evil people incapable of "logical" thought because the Quran tells them to deceive us until they can either convert or murder us, they CANNOT be normal people, those guys I buy my noodles from ARE SYSTEMATICALLY TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE ORMEAU ROAD!! AND DO WHAT THE UDA FAILED TO!!! They are family people who keep their heads down and have made something from themselves..If they are Jihadists then they are doing a damn fucking fine job of being covert about it, especially with those prices!!
 
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Oct 2018...
Rotherham grooming gangs: National Crime Agency investigating more than 420 suspects in 'unprecedented' operation

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-rotherham-suspects-victims-girls-rape-uk-nca-prosecutions-a8609511.html

One of the victims told the trial how she had sex with “at least 100 Asian men” by the time she was 16, and another described how she was gang-raped in a forest and threatened with being left there.

The woman, who was 14 at the time, became pregnant as a result of the attack and was forced by her parents to have an abortion.

Many survivors have since suffered the long-term effects of abuse, including mental health issues, damaging relationships, drug and alcohol addiction and suicidal tendencies.

Similar patterns of exploitation have been uncovered in other British towns and cities, with another gang being convicted and jailed for more than 220 years in Huddersfield.

The home secretary has launched an inquiry into the potential “cultural drivers” behind grooming gangs. “There will be no no-go areas of inquiry,” Sajid Javid said last month. “I will not let cultural or political sensitivities get in the way of understanding the problem and doing something about it.”

Mr Javid said that perpetrators convicted in high-profile cases have been “disproportionately from a Pakistani background”,


4 days ago...
Rotherham child abuse: More than 40 suspects arrested over past two months, says National Crime Agency

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rotherham-child-abuse-arrests-nca-crime-yorkshire-police-a8904256.html

They said thirty-eight men and two women are being investigated as part of Operation Stovewood.

Carl Vessey-Baitson, from the NCA, said: "Arresting such a large number of individuals, as part of one Stovewood sub-operation, shows our desire to listen to victims and bring offenders to justice is not wavering. Stovewood is a challenging and complex investigation, with victims and survivors reliving abuse that took place many years ago.
To date we have engaged with over 410 victims and survivors and have arrested or interviewed by appointment 94 suspects, meaning this is the largest law enforcement investigation into non-familial child sexual abuse and exploitation ever undertaken in the UK."


Professor Alexis Jay's 2014 report into the rape, grooming and trafficking of hundreds of children in Rotherham.

The Jay Report described how more than 1,400 children had been affected - a figure which was later established to be an underestimate by Operation Stovewood, which has identified 1,523 victims.

Towards the end of 2018, the NCA said it had 151 designated suspects, 275 other people under investigation and 296 female survivors of exploitation actively engaging with officers.


This is just one town out of many ... someone should compile an online database with the names, photos, ethnicity and religious orientation of every man arrested in these "grooming gangs" that can be found, alongside a database of the same information from victims willing to have their data put up there... that way we won't get people with your mentality writing dismissive articles in The Guardian trying to muddy the water and cast doubt on the scale, figures and Muslim representation of these gangs.



Sarah Champion, the Labour MP for Rotherham, resigned from her position as shadow women and equalities minister on Wednesday over what she called her “extremely poor choice of words” in an article she wrote for The Sun. Ms Champion’s article stated that “Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls”.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/what-do-we-know-about-the-ethnicity-of-sexual-abuse-gangs

The latest data we have on this is from the 2013 CEOP study. It reports 57 cases of Type 1 group abuse in 2012, and police provided ethnicity data on 52 of these.

Half of those Type 1 cases involved all-Asian groups. 21 per cent were all-white groups, and 17 per cent were groups containing multiple ethnicities.
75% of recorded Type 1 group abusers, who target victims based on their vulnerability, were Asian. ( Nah, based on religion and ethnicity)

The Office for National Statistics estimates that 7.5% of the UK’s population are Asian.

17% of Type 1 offenders were white, compared to 86% of the UK population.

7.5% of the UK population from one ethnic group make up 75% of recorded type 1 group abuse. Type 1 group abuse is defined as targeting victims based on "vulnerability" as opposed to sexual attraction.

But yeah, Tommy Robinson Bad!!! uunnggg...

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Police have recorded a surge in hate crime directed at people in England and Wales because of their religious beliefs.

It rose by 40%, from 5,949 in 2016-17 to 8,336 in 2017-18, according to the Home Office data.

Most religious hate crime - 52% of all offences - was aimed at Muslims.

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See the idea is not to excuse what those gangs my be doing, it's trying to make people understand why attacking the random muslim guy you see on the street isn't the answer... and I actually have a few questions about those numbers but I'll have another read over it tomorrow.
 

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Really? No.... I thought they were a fundamentally evil people incapable of "logical" thought because the Quran tells them to deceive us until they can either convert or murder us, they CANNOT be normal people, those guys I buy my noodles from ARE SYSTEMATICALLY TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE ORMEAU ROAD!! AND DO WHAT THE UDA FAILED TO!!! They are family people who keep their heads down and have made something from themselves..If they are Jihadists then they are doing a damn fucking fine job of being covert about it, especially with those prices!!
Shoot that postcode over so we can swing it out fam
 
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@SouthpawCounter I don't think you are some ignorant racist who worships hitler posters every night before bed, I just think you need to not be so gullible towards the "working class lads lad just trying to make a point" facade like Tommy Robinson is good at putting across, we've clashed on this site before, we've agreed on this site before, you are obviously a guy with strong opinions and a strong temper, but I think and hope you can realise that this guy is far more of a demagogue, than just a lad from the rough estate trying to spread truth about the dangers of Islam, he's a grifter and an opportunist
 
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There's a bit of difference because the numbers of Muslims in this country who support a lot of the things we find appalling are high. It's not a case of odd people here and there, you see very high numbers who think honour killings are acceptable, who wouldn't report terrorism, who think death for apostasy is a fair punishment, who think homosexuality should be legal etc.. I'm against generalisations but when 0% of young Muslims think that homosexuality should be legally allowed, then you can start making generalisations without being inaccurate.

Where did you get the statistic that ZERO percent of young Muslims think that homosexuality should be allowed??
 

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Ormeau Road/South Belfast area post code is BT7

My personal postcode is BT7 2EZ, yes, as in 2 fucking EAZY, a prewarning to any of those who dare to wish to take me on
Will you really fight me? Sick of forum faggot clueless never boxed warriors not turning up.