Trump 2020: Impeachment hearing live.

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Vindman's quote draws a conclusion. Whether or not he demanded anything has yet been established, Brent. Other than that your post is spot on. Especially the tip of the hat to the separation of powers built into our Constitution.
Yeah, my post was already approaching TL;DR length so I tried to stay on the one subject. For a light Colonel in the US Army who has served in the political sphere to so fundamentally miss the fact that Trump has the sole authority to set foreign policy is just alarming. Most people reaching Field Grade officer level are just better than that. His fatbody status also tells me he will probably not make the cut at his next physical, will not be promoted again unless he can get into shape, and will be asked to retire at the one after that. He's a dead-ender and probably knows it.
 
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Joe E

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Yeah, my post was already approaching TL;DR length so I tried to stay on the one subject. For a light Colonel in the US Army who has served in the political sphere to so fundamentally miss the fact that Trump has the sole authority to set foreign policy is just alarming. Most people reaching Field Grade officer level are just better than that. His fatbody status also tells me he will probably not make the cut at his next physical, will not be promoted again unless he can get into shape, and will be asked to retire at the one after that. He's a dead-ender and probably knows it.
He'll get his chance to testify under oath and cross I'm sure.
 
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steviebruno

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Yeah, my post was already approaching TL;DR length so I tried to stay on the one subject. For a light Colonel in the US Army who has served in the political sphere to so fundamentally miss the fact that Trump has the sole authority to set foreign policy is just alarming. Most people reaching Field Grade officer level are just better than that. His fatbody status also tells me he will probably not make the cut at his next physical, will not be promoted again unless he can get into shape, and will be asked to retire at the one after that. He's a dead-ender and probably knows it.
In your opinion, is witholding federal aid in order to investigate a political rival 'foreign policy'?

Is the power of the POTUS absolute?
 
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Johnstown

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Yeah, my post was already approaching TL;DR length so I tried to stay on the one subject. For a light Colonel in the US Army who has served in the political sphere to so fundamentally miss the fact that Trump has the sole authority to set foreign policy is just alarming. Most people reaching Field Grade officer level are just better than that. His fatbody status also tells me he will probably not make the cut at his next physical, will not be promoted again unless he can get into shape, and will be asked to retire at the one after that. He's a dead-ender and probably knows it.
So the position has now become "it doesn't matter what was done because the President has the authority to set and engage foreign policy as he sees fit."
 
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Haggis

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:patsch

Expect a “tell all” book shortly.

Haggis is the target audience.
Actually the whistleblower's identity is completely irrelevant.

If someone sees a bank robbery in progress and calls 911, it doesn't matter what the caller thinks about the police or the criminal justice system or anything else in the world. It matters that they saw a crime in progress, and called it in. That's it - they report a crime, corroborating evidence is discovered that confirms the crime they reported has actually taken place - and that's it. Their part is done. The whistleblower is not an investigator. They blow a whistle and point at wrongdoing for the investigators to come in and investigate. It could be Hillary Clinton herself who is the whistleblower and that would have zero impact on the clearly impeachable facts of what the investigation has already discovered.

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Actually the whistleblower's identity is completely irrelevant.

If someone sees a bank robbery in progress and calls 911, it doesn't matter what the caller thinks about the police or the criminal justice system or anything else in the world. It matters that they saw a crime in progress, and called it in. That's it - they report a crime, corroborating evidence is discovered that confirms the crime they reported has actually taken place - and that's it. Their part is done. The whistleblower is not an investigator. They blow a whistle and point at wrongdoing for the investigators to come in and investigate. It could be Hillary Clinton herself who is the whistleblower and that would have zero impact on the clearly impeachable facts of what the investigation has already discovered.

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Of course the whistleblower's identity is relevant.

Not that this whistleblower has any direct evidence anyway.
 
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steviebruno

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Of course the whistleblower's identity is relevant.

Not that this whistleblower has any direct evidence anyway.
Hey Vino, did you get around to reading Joe's link about Alexander Vindman? According to his article, it is very likely that the whistleblower wasn't even the person who initially voiced a complaint. It is very possible that Vindman himself was the direct source, and that the whistleblower received the information from him. It also highlights a few other key issues:

- The White House inappropriately moved the call to a classified server because, well, they thought that the President did something wrong
-The White House then released a falsified transcript of the call
-Vindman came forward after the false transcript was made public, after unsuccessfully attempting to have an accurate transcript released

Alexander Vindman is going to stand up on the witness stand and provide the transcript that he had personally "shopped around", and outline how it was different from the transcript that made its way into public domain.

... The whistleblower is just the tip of the iceberg, Vino, and the complaint would have already died down if:

A) The President didn't release his "perfect call" to the public
B) Other witnesses hadn't come forward
C) The President hadn't gone to such lengths to expose the whistleblower, after initially witholding the complaint from the public

Stay tuned.
 
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tommygun711

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Has anyone been paying attention to the #MAGAChallenge :rofl



Further proof that conservatives know nothing about hip hop. Cringe worthy. And trump is going to invite some of these clowns to the whitehouse to perform
 
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