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Joe E

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Trying to come to a rational understanding of Joe's views won't be possible.

He also posted things in the past that suggested he believed it was all fake...crisis actor/false flag stuff.

He will deny that now I guess.

It's whatever....
Links, Fat Ass. Keep looking.
 
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There are countless instances of people doing and saying stuff thinking the cameras aren't rolling.

If you don't find this strange I don't know what to say


Fuck, this vid's gotten hard to find.
The more I watch that the less strange I find it. The idea that he doesn't know the cameras are rolling is frankly a bit ludicrous, you are surrounded by cameras, many of which will have just had reporters standing in front of them doing intro sequences, and the time from him smiling/laughing at someone to standing at the mic is 6 seconds. So we believe that he was "out of character" for 4 of those 6 seconds because he had his guard down or something else?

He goes from distracting himself before having to speak to standing with all the focus on him, and then as he gets ready to speak about the topic, finds it hard. Even in happy times this is absolutely normal. People stand up to make a wedding speech and they are joking with someone next to them, a bit nervous and then as they have to start speaking about their daughter's wedding they struggle to get the words out as they are emotional. Shit, we even see it with people winning awards who are used to speaking in front of people. Actors walking up to the mic happy and then being overcome with emotion when they have to speak.

As I said, people laugh at funerals out of nerves, @Kolya has outlined an even more extreme example of nervous laughter. Moreover, I don't know much about this man. He could be on the autistic spectrum, he could be so deeply in shock that he's struggled to even really process that his daughter is dead, he could be an incredibly brave, composed guy who managed to distract himself in the build up to what he believed was an important speech, or sure he could be a sociopath or someone with a personality disorder who was not that fussed about his kid's death. All of these are possible explanations that make more sense than him being an actor (and I am not saying you are saying this, but that's what the person who put the video up is suggesting).
 
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The more I watch that the less strange I find it. The idea that he doesn't know the cameras are rolling is frankly a bit ludicrous, you are surrounded by cameras, many of which will have just had reporters standing in front of them doing intro sequences, and the time from him smiling/laughing at someone to standing at the mic is 6 seconds. So we believe that he was "out of character" for 4 of those 6 seconds because he had his guard down or something else?

He goes from distracting himself before having to speak to standing with all the focus on him, and then as he gets ready to speak about the topic, finds it hard. Even in happy times this is absolutely normal. People stand up to make a wedding speech and they are joking with someone next to them, a bit nervous and then as they have to start speaking about their daughter's wedding they struggle to get the words out as they are emotional. Shit, we even see it with people winning awards who are used to speaking in front of people. Actors walking up to the mic happy and then being overcome with emotion when they have to speak.

As I said, people laugh at funerals out of nerves, @Kolya has outlined an even more extreme example of nervous laughter. Moreover, I don't know much about this man. He could be on the autistic spectrum, he could be so deeply in shock that he's struggled to even really process that his daughter is dead, he could be an incredibly brave, composed guy who managed to distract himself in the build up to what he believed was an important speech, or sure he could be a sociopath or someone with a personality disorder who was not that fussed about his kid's death. All of these are possible explanations that make more sense than him being an actor (and I am not saying you are saying this, but that's what the person who put the video up is suggesting).
Good post.

Way more effort than Vino's trolling excrement deserves.

But still good post...
 
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Johnstown

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In other news.

The President of the United States apparently believes a category 5 hurricane happens only once ever 100 years or some shit.
 
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The more I watch that the less strange I find it. The idea that he doesn't know the cameras are rolling is frankly a bit ludicrous, you are surrounded by cameras, many of which will have just had reporters standing in front of them doing intro sequences, and the time from him smiling/laughing at someone to standing at the mic is 6 seconds. So we believe that he was "out of character" for 4 of those 6 seconds because he had his guard down or something else?

He goes from distracting himself before having to speak to standing with all the focus on him, and then as he gets ready to speak about the topic, finds it hard. Even in happy times this is absolutely normal. People stand up to make a wedding speech and they are joking with someone next to them, a bit nervous and then as they have to start speaking about their daughter's wedding they struggle to get the words out as they are emotional. Shit, we even see it with people winning awards who are used to speaking in front of people. Actors walking up to the mic happy and then being overcome with emotion when they have to speak.

As I said, people laugh at funerals out of nerves, @Kolya has outlined an even more extreme example of nervous laughter. Moreover, I don't know much about this man. He could be on the autistic spectrum, he could be so deeply in shock that he's struggled to even really process that his daughter is dead, he could be an incredibly brave, composed guy who managed to distract himself in the build up to what he believed was an important speech, or sure he could be a sociopath or someone with a personality disorder who was not that fussed about his kid's death. All of these are possible explanations that make more sense than him being an actor (and I am not saying you are saying this, but that's what the person who put the video up is suggesting).
He comes out giggling, says "we ready to start?" ... "ok" ... gets his serious face on and then says "so my name's Robbie Parker ...".

It's strange.

Not a tear either. As you say, he could be autistic or have a personality disorder.
 
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He comes out giggling, says "we ready to start?" ... "ok" ... gets his serious face on and then says "so my name's Robbie Parker ...".

It's strange.

Not a tear either. As you say, he could be autistic or have a personality disorder.
His daughter just got shot to death. Literally all but one child in one of those classes died, they were hiding in the bathroom and got shot like fish in a barrel; something like 16 children and two adults packed into a small space. Considering that, I'm assuming the guy's mental state was pretty well shattered.
 
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His daughter just got shot to death. Literally all but one child in one of those classes died, they were hiding in the bathroom and got shot like fish in a barrel; something like 16 children and two adults packed into a small space. Considering that, I'm assuming the guy's mental state was pretty well shattered.
What was he fronting the cameras for? As you say, the guy's pretty well shattered, but he still goes on tv? Strange.
 
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What was he fronting the cameras for? As you say, the guy's pretty well shattered, but he still goes on tv? Strange.
Same as the children that were interviewed by police officers the same day as the shooting occurred, I suppose. In some cases talking helps the grieving process.
 
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He comes out giggling, says "we ready to start?" ... "ok" ... gets his serious face on and then says "so my name's Robbie Parker ...".

It's strange.

Not a tear either. As you say, he could be autistic or have a personality disorder.
That's not giggling. It's a smile and a nervous laugh. I mean it is well documented, it even has a wiki entry it is so widely acknowledged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervous_laughter

Here is a whole piece from a psychologist about patients smiling and laughing when recounting how they were abused as kids:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/healing-trauma-s-wounds/201509/why-clients-smile-when-talking-about-trauma-part-1

Little excerpt from her in the above:

"The reality is this is not an uncommon phenomenon. Smiling or laughing while disclosing painful experiences can serve several different functions."

It is simply not rare, not unusual even, and says nothing of any note about him beyond conjecture about possible things he might be, might have felt etc.
 
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Same as the children that were interviewed by police officers the same day as the shooting occurred, I suppose. In some cases talking helps the grieving process.
Kids getting interviewed by cops is a bit different to a father making a statement after his kid got massacred.
 
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That's not giggling. It's a smile and a nervous laugh. I mean it is well documented, it even has a wiki entry it is so widely acknowledged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervous_laughter

Here is a whole piece from a psychologist about patients smiling and laughing when recounting how they were abused as kids:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/healing-trauma-s-wounds/201509/why-clients-smile-when-talking-about-trauma-part-1

Little excerpt from her in the above:

"The reality is this is not an uncommon phenomenon. Smiling or laughing while disclosing painful experiences can serve several different functions."

It is simply not rare, not unusual even, and says nothing of any note about him beyond conjecture about possible things he might be, might have felt etc.
He knew when to switch off the nervous smiling and laughing. Funny how none of that came back during the rest of the statement.
 
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He knew when to switch off the nervous smiling and laughing. Funny how none of that came back during the rest of the statement.
Funny to you maybe, but widely observed in multiple situations. People can be laughing nervously before something stressful, then their response can change. He could have been readying himself to speak by idle chit chat, by making nervous jokes as a distraction...perfectly normal, and then he has to focus on the words he has prepared and the distraction is over.

Let's be honest, if he had nervously laughed while speaking, you wouldn't be saying "Oh well that's normal", it would be highlighted on videos to show how much more of an obvious fake he was. There is no delineated "normal" way for a person to give a public speech about the murder of their child the next day. His breathing to calm himself looks normal. The nervous laugh of all of 4 seconds before he has to take the spot light does not look abnormal at all.

But, if you want to decide he knows when "to switch off" then whatever. Again, I'd suggest Occam's Razor is worth applying to such cases, especially when the alternative leads to people who had their kids murdered having people harass them and deride their loss online.
 
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Funny to you maybe, but widely observed in multiple situations. People can be laughing nervously before something stressful, then their response can change. He could have been readying himself to speak by idle chit chat, by making nervous jokes as a distraction...perfectly normal, and then he has to focus on the words he has prepared and the distraction is over.

Let's be honest, if he had nervously laughed while speaking, you wouldn't be saying "Oh well that's normal", it would be highlighted on videos to show how much more of an obvious fake he was. There is no delineated "normal" way for a person to give a public speech about the murder of their child the next day. His breathing to calm himself looks normal. The nervous laugh of all of 4 seconds before he has to take the spot light does not look abnormal at all.

But, if you want to decide he knows when "to switch off" then whatever. Again, I'd suggest Occam's Razor is worth applying to such cases, especially when the alternative leads to people who had their kids murdered having people harass them and deride their loss online.
And when he did take the spotlight, there wasn't a tear. You'd think someone who couldn't control a nervous laugh sure as fuck couldn't control a tear when giving what amounted to a eulogy for his child that'd been murdered the day before.


What you see above isn't normal. Maybe that's because the dude's a closet queer. Maybe it's because he's on the spectrum. Fuck knows. But what I do know is a regular parent who just lost a child or relo doesn't act the way he did.
 

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Like, what is a possible alternative explanation to the official story that you have heard and think is plausible or could envisage is an alternative that makes sense?
Good luck with that! :lol:

Best you'll get is a lot of cryptic gibberish and evasions and non-sequiters.

:hat
 
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Good luck with that! :lol:

Best you'll get is a lot of cryptic gibberish and evasions and non-sequiters.

:hat
He did actually answer, and said he thinks Lanza did it, but that some of the kids could possibly have been saved if responses had been better. Basically that some kids probably bled to death rather than being dead already. It is a reasonable belief, but not really related to the initial questions he had over timeline.
 
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'Straya, cunt.
He did actually answer, and said he thinks Lanza did it, but that some of the kids could possibly have been saved if responses had been better. Basically that some kids probably bled to death rather than being dead already. It is a reasonable belief, but not really related to the initial questions he had over timeline.
No, no, no, no, no! You’re wrong! That doesn’t fit haggis’s narrative, you’ll have to change your post.
 
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