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Libya and Syria happened by themselves, did they?
Well the Syrian civil war sure as fuck was not started by Obama was it? That said, Obama was fully committed to military interference abroad and carried out more drone strikes than any other president. Trump being a bit more aligned with isolationism and fighting trade wars rather than actual wars, might well work out for the best.
 
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Well the Syrian civil war sure as fuck was not started by Obama was it? That said, Obama was fully committed to military interference abroad and carried out more drone strikes than any other president. Trump being a bit more aligned with isolationism and fighting trade wars rather than actual wars, might well work out for the best.
Do you seriously think the U.S. wasn't behind the "Arab Spring"?
 
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Do you seriously think the U.S. wasn't behind the "Arab Spring"?
Encouraging something is not the same as starting it. I don't think Obama started the Syrian Civil War no. I think the U.S and the rest of their allies encouraged and fostered the groups who began to oppose Assad, Gaddafi and others and then funded their fight.
 
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Encouraging something is not the same as starting it. I don't think Obama started the Syrian Civil War no. I think the U.S and the rest of their allies encouraged and fostered the groups who began to oppose Assad, Gaddafi and others and then funded their fight.
Encouraging and fostering groups and then funding them is starting it.
 
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You could have done that originally, instead of proclaiming Trump a brilliant strategist who had ended N.Korean missile testing and trolling about how he had done something unique in the region.
It was brilliant strategy from Trump. If it turns out that the U.S. does have to intervene militarily, he will have much less opposition for doing so given he gave peace a chance.
 
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It was brilliant strategy from Trump. If it turns out that the U.S. does have to intervene militarily, he will have much less opposition for doing so given he gave peace a chance.
:lol: :lol:

Vino: "No missile tests, Trump brought peace to Korea".

Missile tests.

Vino: "Brilliant from Trump, now he has support for military action because he gave peace a chance".

So whatever had happened, it was a win for Trump in your dedicated campaign to just troll for years about one man. :lol:

As you were, I'll leave you to enjoy this bizarre hobby for what it is.
 
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:lol::lol:

Vino: "No missile tests, Trump brought peace to Korea".

Missile tests.

Vino: "Brilliant from Trump, now he has support for military action because he gave peace a chance".

So whatever had happened, it was a win for Trump in your dedicated campaign to just troll for years about one man. :lol:

As you were, I'll leave you to enjoy this bizarre hobby for what it is.
Of course it is a win for Trump. It was leading to war before Trump tried for peace. The situation is no worse than it was before Trump took office. It really should come as no surprise that Kim is testing the U.S. given the treasonous attacks Trump is facing from within.
 
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Of course it is a win for Trump. It was leading to war before Trump tried for peace. The situation is no worse than it was before Trump took office. It really should come as no surprise that Kim is testing the U.S. given the treasonous attacks Trump is facing from within.
It was no more leading to war than it was previously. Jesus, as much as you hate Swollen Goat, he provided you with reams of evidence of all the back and forth nonsense that has gone on over the years. The North straight up sank Southern ships just before I moved there in 2010. There's been sporadic periods of ramped up tensions followed by honeymoon periods for YEARS, going back to the rule of Kim Il-Sung. This continued on and off through Kim Jong-Il's leadership and there was the Sunshine Policy of the South for almost 12 years.

The situation is not any worse under Trump no. It's not any better either, that's what everyone was trying to tell you when you were lauding Trump for "solving" the issue and making more progress than anyone else before. All people were saying was "This always happens, it's happened dozens of times before, don't be so reactionary".

By your logic there were big wins for Obama too. And Bush. And Clinton. The North is doing what it always does, and Trump has not made it any worse or any better, it just goes in waves of negative and then positive rhetoric from the North.

I cannot work out what percentage of you is just trolling because it entertains you and what percentage actually thinks Trump is a brilliant leader, but it doesn't really matter as whatever the split, all you will ever do is praise him just like a certain other group will always attack him. It's two sides of the same coin. Anyway I am off out, and I will leave this thread again, as it's always a waste of time really.
 
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It was no more leading to war than it was previously. Jesus, as much as you hate Swollen Goat, he provided you with reams of evidence of all the back and forth nonsense that has gone on over the years. The North straight up sank Southern ships just before I moved there in 2010. There's been sporadic periods of ramped up tensions followed by honeymoon periods for YEARS, going back to the rule of Kim Il-Sung. This continued on and off through Kim Jong-Il's leadership and there was the Sunshine Policy of the South for almost 12 years.

The situation is not any worse under Trump no. It's not any better either, that's what everyone was trying to tell you when you were lauding Trump for "solving" the issue and making more progress than anyone else before. All people were saying was "This always happens, it's happened dozens of times before, don't be so reactionary".

By your logic there were big wins for Obama too. And Bush. And Clinton. The North is doing what it always does, and Trump has not made it any worse or any better, it just goes in waves of negative and then positive rhetoric from the North.

I cannot work out what percentage of you is just trolling because it entertains you and what percentage actually thinks Trump is a brilliant leader, but it doesn't really matter as whatever the split, all you will ever do is praise him just like a certain other group will always attack him. It's two sides of the same coin. Anyway I am off out, and I will leave this thread again, as it's always a waste of time really.
SoKo president must've been trolling too

South Korean President Moon Jae-in says Trump deserves Nobel Peace Prize

And Abe

Donald Trump Says Shinzo Abe Nominated Him for Nobel Peace Prize

See you when you're back.
 
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