Trump selects Kavanaugh for SCOTUS.

You seem bitter. I'm loving it.
you are mistaken

Im disappointed

once again,the low information,tribal,superstitious minority has managed to saddle the rest of us with their stupid

and they are happy about it,despite the fact that objective reality shows them to be wrong.............wrong in almost every way

thats the nature of the game

the good news is that these swings right get smaller and smaller,and less frequent

the march of history is to the left.............and has been for hundreds of years

this is,in fact,the last gasp of the traditional american right..................they couldn't have won with a traditional candidate and needed Trump to pull them out of the shitter..............and he has fucking WRECKED them..........its a party of old men who will all be dead inside ten years or so...........and,when Trump is gone,the survivors of the political debacle will all be trying,Kruschev like,to distance themselves form the Orange Stalin as quickly and loudly mas they can............and we will swing to the left again..............as we always do

And 'the right' will slowly become what was 'left' only a generation ago as they struggle to keep afloat...........

read some history

I have no fear of the long game

its the retarded bumps in the road that are.............annoying
 
this is,in fact,the last gasp of the traditional american right..................they couldn't have won with a traditional candidate and needed Trump to pull them out of the shitter..............and he has fucking WRECKED them..........its a party of old men who will all be dead inside ten years or so...........and,when Trump is gone,the survivors of the political debacle will all be trying,Kruschev like,to distance themselves form the Orange Stalin as quickly and loudly mas they can............and we will swing to the left again..............as we always do

And you tell someone else they need their meds.

Mirror, say hi.
 
That's not the point. It would mean Kav's testimony about what it meant was a lie. Which it clearly was. If he had said "Hey, this is cringe worthy as a man now, but we all fantasised about her, and admitted that we all had" then I'd go with that.

I think you are overlooking the part where he was a virgin. He says he was well into his 20's and nobody has come forward to argue that point. I also don't think he would have made that claim if he wasn't because he would have to know it would be easy to disprove. He was obviously not a sexual guy at that point. Nobody else has even come forward to say he was after more than a quick kiss. You need to put everything into context when trying to determine what he meant in his year book.


Personally I don't even care if he was lying about the stuff you are talking about. The thought that someone should have to go through their high school yearbook in front of the world because the dems don't want his as a judge is disgusting. The guys ratings as a judge are spotless.
 
I think you are overlooking the part where he was a virgin. He says he was well into his 20's and nobody has come forward to argue that point. I also don't think he would have made that claim if he wasn't because he would have to know it would be easy to disprove. He was obviously not a sexual guy at that point. Nobody else has even come forward to say he was after more than a quick kiss. You need to put everything into context when trying to determine what he meant in his year book.
He may well have been a virgin, but most 17 year old male virgins are not virgins due to choice. Some are, maybe he was one of them, but regardless the comment was a clear lie.

Personally I don't even care if he was lying about the stuff you are talking about.
That's your prerogative, but you should care if someone appointed to the Supreme Court lied under oath on a hearing over a sexual assault accusation.
The thought that someone should have to go through their high school yearbook in front of the world because the dems don't want his as a judge is disgusting.
Only, there's no evidence to support this at all. It's 100% conspiracy theory conjecture. He went through his yearbook because he was accused of sexual assault. That does not make him guilty, but it does not make it a conspiracy organised by the Democrat Party either.
 
There is a possibility that Kav's explanation is legit. I've been around nerds like Kav at uni and they're a different breed.

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Agreed. I don't know why Strike seems to think it is impossible. I used to hang out with a guy
He may well have been a virgin, but most 17 year old male virgins are not virgins due to choice. Some are, maybe he was one of them, but regardless the comment was a clear lie.

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He was a virgin into his mid 20's at least if he was telling the truth. Again nobody has come forward to say he was not and there is no reason to believe he was not. He was not a sexual guy at that point. The problem I have with your opinion is you relate it to yourself. You think it is impossible for someone to make a non sexual reference for a guy that age because you can't see yourself doing it.

Obviously there are guys out there like that. I used to hang around one of them. He was a virgin until he was about 28 years old when he met his wife.. he was big drinker. he looked at women in a way that you would not think possible. he dated a girl for a few years before that and didn't have sex with her. They are out there. The fact that Kavanaugh claims to have been a virgin and nobody has disputed that tells me he might be one of those guys.
 
He may well have been a virgin, but most 17 year old male virgins are not virgins due to choice. Some are, maybe he was one of them, but regardless the comment was a clear lie.

That's your prerogative, but you should care if someone appointed to the Supreme Court lied under oath on a hearing over a sexual assault accusation.

Only, there's no evidence to support this at all. It's 100% conspiracy theory conjecture. He went through his yearbook because he was accused of sexual assault. That does not make him guilty, but it does not make it a conspiracy organised by the Democrat Party either.

Ford is a democrat and a big time liberal.
 

Haggis

CHB World Championship People's Champion
The fact that Kavanaugh claims to have been a virgin and nobody has disputed that tells me he might be one of those guys.
You disputed that a couple of days ago, remember? You said he was a college guy who liked beer and pussy, shock horror. You clearly get all of what little knowledge you have exclusively from right-wing sources, so how are we going to take your opinion seriously when you've demonstrated that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about? And when this was pointed out to you, you responded LOL. You have your preformed agenda, and that is all you need. What he actually said under oath, whether or not he was truthful under oath, this means nothing to you. Because you're a shill, so what exactly is your opinion worth?

:hat
 
you are mistaken

Im disappointed

once again,the low information,tribal,superstitious minority has managed to saddle the rest of us with their stupid

and they are happy about it,despite the fact that objective reality shows them to be wrong.............wrong in almost every way

thats the nature of the game

the good news is that these swings right get smaller and smaller,and less frequent

the march of history is to the left.............and has been for hundreds of years

this is,in fact,the last gasp of the traditional american right..................they couldn't have won with a traditional candidate and needed Trump to pull them out of the shitter..............and he has fucking WRECKED them..........its a party of old men who will all be dead inside ten years or so...........and,when Trump is gone,the survivors of the political debacle will all be trying,Kruschev like,to distance themselves form the Orange Stalin as quickly and loudly mas they can............and we will swing to the left again..............as we always do

And 'the right' will slowly become what was 'left' only a generation ago as they struggle to keep afloat...........

read some history

I have no fear of the long game

its the retarded bumps in the road that are.............annoying
You don't have to be a right winger and think that what happened to Kavanaugh was BS. It somewhat turned into a me too movement show trial. The correct side won this.

I am also worried about a far right wing court but you had better worry about the far left right now just as much if not more.

I guess forcing a Christian to bake a gay wedding cake or lose his business is not a good idea after all.
 
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Agreed. I don't know why Strike seems to think it is impossible. I used to hang out with a guy
I never said it wasn't possible. Being a virgin does not make any difference to whether he assaulted her, whether he lied under oath or any of the other things being discussed.

He was a virgin into his mid 20's at least if he was telling the truth. Again nobody has come forward to say he was not and there is no reason to believe he was not. He was not a sexual guy at that point. The problem I have with your opinion is you relate it to yourself. You think it is impossible for someone to make a non sexual reference for a guy that age because you can't see yourself doing it.
No. I find it implausible to the point of ludicrous that a guy who filled his entire year book with quotes about drinking, throwing up from drinking and other "lad" style stuff, who was going to parties etc would the throw in a subtle reference to a specific girl because of how much he "admired and respected" her.

Especially when they were not close friends, did not go to the same school, and when her name also appears in other guys photos. When the reference is then "Alumni" as in "graduates or attendees of" and the girl's name, it is fucking laughable to suggest that this was not about her in a sexual way. That does not mean he had sex with her. It could mean they all admitted to jerking off about her. It could mean they all kissed her. It could mean, they all fancied her and said they'd love to have sex with her.

But to say it was about admiration for her as a person is farcical. He looked like a child lying about stealing a cookie when he said it, and the fact that the girl in question never knew about this until last week is even more damning. She was someone they knew and respected so much that they never told her of the reference? :lol:

I can believe he was a virgin. I could be persuaded he didn't assault anyone. No chance am I buying, what he told the hearing, the "Renate Alumni" quote meant is true.
 
You disputed that a couple of days ago, remember? You said he was a college guy who liked beer and pussy, shock horror. You clearly get all of what little knowledge you have exclusively from right-wing sources, so how are we going to take your opinion seriously when you've demonstrated that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about? And when this was pointed out to you, you responded LOL. You have your preformed agenda, and that is all you need. What he actually said under oath, whether or not he was truthful under oath, this means nothing to you. Because you're a shill, so what exactly is your opinion worth?

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Wrong guy. I never said what you claimed about pussy.

Yes I don't care even if he did lie about what was written in his year book. I think the whole thing was a sham. I don;t know if he lied and I don't care if he did with a wink, What he was being asked was out of line. Should he have answered truthfully if they asked him if he master bated a lot while in college? Where do you draw the line. His ratings as a judge are fantastic. I don't care if he decided not to humiliate himself in front of the world over bullshit.

Right now I am more worried about how they are going to get anyone to come forward and accept a Supreme Court nomination. Who the hell wants to go through that. It seems like a women would be the only choice now.
 

Haggis

CHB World Championship People's Champion
Wrong guy. I never said what you claimed about pussy.
Was it the Plumber? I apologise. My mistake. :thumbsup

Yes I don't care even if he did lie about what was written in his year book.
You don't care that he lies under oath?

Lying under oath is a big fucking deal. It doesn't matter what you're lying about, or for what reason.

I think the whole thing was a sham.
Yes it was - on both sides. Democrats were determined to ruin him and figured that unprovable sexual assault was an easier angle to sell than perjury, and Republicans were determined to push their corporate stooge through no matter what.

I don;t know if he lied and I don't care if he did with a wink, What he was being asked was out of line.
What was asked, was relevant to the accusations he faced.

Should he have answered truthfully if they asked him if he master bated a lot while in college?
YES, for fucks sakes. He. Was. Under. Oath. Not answering truthfully is supposed to DISQUALIFY him, that's the whole point!

Where do you draw the line.
I draw the line at lying while under oath. Lying about drinking habits, lying about professional connections and partisan status, lying about "oh we had such respect for her, we formed a little appreciation society for her." ALL disqualifying.

His ratings as a judge are fantastic.
Ratings by who, and by what metric? Fantastic for big-money lobbyists, corporate board members and corrupt sitting Presidents in legal trouble, absolutely.

I don't care if he decided not to humiliate himself in front of the world over bullshit.
You don't care if a Supreme Court nominee perjures himself under oath.

Brilliant.

You know who DOES care? Bet Kavanaugh. By his own legal ruling, he is guilty of the alleged crimes that he lied about during his testimony.

Right now I am more worried about how they are going to get anyone to come forward and accept a Supreme Court nomination. Who the hell wants to go through that. It seems like a women would be the only choice now.
True, true.... remember what a nightmarish confirmation process Gorsuch had last year, with all of the sexual assault allegations he had to defend himself against.

:hat
 
Was it the Plumber? I apologise. My mistake. :thumbsup



You don't care that he lies under oath?

Lying under oath is a big fucking deal. It doesn't matter what you're lying about, or for what reason.



Yes it was - on both sides. Democrats were determined to ruin him and figured that unprovable sexual assault was an easier angle to sell than perjury, and Republicans were determined to push their corporate stooge through no matter what.



What was asked, was relevant to the accusations he faced.



YES, for fucks sakes. He. Was. Under. Oath. Not answering truthfully is supposed to DISQUALIFY him, that's the whole point!



I draw the line at lying while under oath. Lying about drinking habits, lying about professional connections and partisan status, lying about "oh we had such respect for her, we formed a little appreciation society for her." ALL disqualifying.



Ratings by who, and by what metric? Fantastic for big-money lobbyists, corporate board members and corrupt sitting Presidents in legal trouble, absolutely.



You don't care if a Supreme Court nominee perjures himself under oath.

Brilliant.

You know who DOES care? Bet Kavanaugh. By his own legal ruling, he is guilty of the alleged crimes that he lied about during his testimony.



True, true.... remember what a nightmarish confirmation process Gorsuch had last year, with all of the sexual assault allegations he had to defend himself against.

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Again I don't know and don't care if he lied. I am a realist.

So you are pretty sure if Trump gets the chance to push it to 6-3 lib's won't try to destroy because Gorsuch did not get destroyed. Lets just say we will agree to disagree. Any judge that was nominated in that situation would be worried
 
True, true.... remember what a nightmarish confirmation process Gorsuch had last year, with all of the sexual assault allegations he had to defend himself against.

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Yeah, this has happened a total of two times in the entire history of the Supreme Court. Once in 1990 with Clarence Thomas, who played the race card even though his accuser was also black, and then this time. On both occasions, it has had no impact on them actually getting onto the court. As you say, Democrats didn't like Gorsuch, but we didn't go through all this.

Democrats better fucking pray that Bader-Ginsburg hangs in there.
 
There is one thing that amazes me about this whole discussion is the fact that the most important thing is almost never talked about. It really by itself decides the case one way or another.

Where are Ford's shrink notes? She was asked to produce them and she did not. If what she is saying was true she could have basically proven her case with them. She refused to produce them. She also could have given her shrink permission to testify. She did not.
 
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