Trump: The Wall.

Deebo

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Show dem balls bro
I just got a link to a video of our modern day border patrol forces securing the border from illegal Mexican and South American immigrants and goddammit if this doesn't show you how badly we need that fucking Trump border wall then nothing will !!


 
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Haggis

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Joe, you are virtually incoherent at this point. Literally all you are doing is a) passing links that nobody responds to, and b) babbling.

So Mexico's not going to be paying for the wall.

Did you believe the President when he promised you that they would?

:hat
 

tommygun711

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I don't really think even Trump supporters believe that the wall will totally halt illegal immigration, part of this is about saving face and the other part I think is just a stupid game for some of the Trump supporters. An ego thing. You want to secure the border, fine, use extra manpower, surveillance, drones, motion detecting sensors and so on, not 19th century technology that doesn't fix the problem it is supposed to confront.

Also Trump can't really back down on this without his base being pissed off about it. It would be suicide politically for him to not at least make an attempt to build the wall.
 
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How will it not stop a good deal of it.
Well It may stop some of the individual straddlers who cross the border on their own in small groups (which the border patrol does already) but it clearly won't have any effect on organised human trafficking which I'd imagine is responsible for the majority illegal immigration because it's the second most lucrative illegal trade globally behind arms dealing.

It's already been pointed out that underground tunnels and official ports of entry are what's already been used. Have will a wall stop that ?
 

Joe E

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Well It may stop some of the individual straddlers who cross the border on their own in small groups (which the border patrol does already) but it clearly won't have any effect on organised human trafficking which I'd imagine is responsible for the majority illegal immigration because it's the second most lucrative illegal trade globally behind arms dealing.

It's already been pointed out that underground tunnels and official ports of entry are what's already been used. Have will a wall stop that ?
How many illegals not stopped via tunnels or ports of entry would it take for The Wall to be considered a failure? Would 70% stopped be considered a failure? 80% As a percentage of how many persons enter this country illegally, how many enter via the methods you've mentioned? As opposed to how many simply walk across in desolate places?
 
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How many illegals not stopped via tunnels or ports of entry would it take for The Wall to be considered a failure? Would 70% stopped be considered a failure? 80% As a percentage of how many persons enter this country illegally, how many enter via the methods you've mentioned? As opposed to how many simply walk across in desolate places?
It's impossible to know isn't it ?

We have absolutely no idea how many illegals have entered the US from Mexico in the last 30 years so obviously haven't been able to do a surrey on the best ways to cross the border.

What we do know is that human trafficking is incredibly lucrative and the cartels have been using narco tunnels since the mid 80's and that they do use them to smuggle people.

From 1990 to 2015 there were 189 narco tunnels discovered. We have no idea how long any of them were in operation or how many people and contraband were smuggled through them.

I'd be shocked if that wall actually stopped 10% of illegal immigration. If 6 he wall goes up more tunnels will be built and human trafficking will massively increase.
 

Joe E

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It's impossible to know isn't it ?

We have absolutely no idea how many illegals have entered the US from Mexico in the last 30 years so obviously haven't been able to do a surrey on the best ways to cross the border.

What we do know is that human trafficking is incredibly lucrative and the cartels have been using narco tunnels since the mid 80's and that they do use them to smuggle people.

From 1990 to 2015 there were 189 narco tunnels discovered. We have no idea how long any of them were in operation or how many people and contraband were smuggled through them.

I'd be shocked if that wall actually stopped 10% of illegal immigration. If 6 he wall goes up more tunnels will be built and human trafficking will massively increase.
You'd estimate 10% but you don't know. B.B. Netanyahu has said illegal traffic has dropped 99% since Israel built its wall, for example. Estimates of persons here illegally are as high as 50 Million due to a porous southern border. The estimated costs of supporting illegals is as high as 130 Billion per year. The estimated cost of The Wall is 5 Billion. Quintuple that. Say it's 25 Billion. Get it? Tunnels? Again I ask how many of the estimated 50 Million have come through the tunnels? How many tons of dope is transported through those tunnels as opposed to being driven through or transported by Mules?
 

Joe E

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Pat Buchanan:
Memo to Trump: Declare an Emergency
https://buchanan.org/blog/memo-to-trump-declare-an-emergency-135677

"Does anyone think Pelosi’s position that a wall is immoral will not be regarded as absurd" Dutch Rudder doesn't

"America’s southern border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist. And Americans will not go gentle into that good night"
 
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no,its an observation

an ad hom would be me dismissing her argument,whatever it is,because she is a racist know nothing shitbag

I dont give a fuck what her argument is,in fact,and didnt bother to listen

I find it amusing that trump supporters seem to make the 'mistake' of quoting racist assholes all the time..............or flying avatars of racist shitbags........



its almost as if they need more funding. who is blocking that again?
all the war on drugs needs is more funding.............shame we cant spend the entire budget on busting stoners and building a useless wall just to shut the bleating fuckwits on the right up,eh?