Turks vs the Kurds rbr

rjjfan

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It amazes me that the left hates Trump so much that they have abandoned their traditional "peace at all costs" position and have now become total warmongers. Un-fucking-believable, really. 18 years, trillions spent, thousands of US warriors killed & maimed for life, and they want more. Not to mention that Trump campaigned on ending the ForeverWar™ so this is not exactly a surprise.

Just wait, the Syrians will "launch" (or in reality be blamed for launching what someone else actually launches) a "sarin gas attack" or something equally counterproductive for their future, and Trump will be pressured to launch a bunch of Tomahawks and send in special forces or something. The political elite want their ForeverWar™ as does the MIC who bribe Congress as well as the irrational Trump haters. None of them care about the military dead and wounded, our national infrastructure decaying since all of our taxes are spent on pointless and unwinnable wars for which they have no exit strategy. None of the non-veterans gave a rat's ass about the Kurds, either, until a couple of weeks ago.

It is stupidity and corruption on a global scale.
I'm kinda surprised mate, so you didn't fall for the "Syrian chemical warfare" trick? :good

Who do you reckon did it? The CIA proxies?
 
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rjjfan

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So why has Trump made your defence budget the highest it’s ever been, if he’s so bothered about getting you fucked infrastructure sorted out? Why not cut it back 50% to something insane like 300 billion +, instead of over 600 billion, and pump that extra 300 billion into infrastructure projects and sorting out your VA, which is decried as a national embarrassment?
Yanks get a stiffy from "support the military" slogans whilst on the campaign trail. Anyone who makes a sane comment like yours are a "goddamn commie bastard who doesn't love America".
 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49995494

The president later told a news conference the Turks and Kurds had "been fighting each other for centuries", and said that Kurdish fighters "didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy".

"With all of that being said, we like the Kurds," Mr Trump added.


That's about the dumbest comment I've heard from Trumps mouth in a long time, basically he's saying "we like you but not that much, so go fuck yourselves".

The Turks wasted no time did they, What an absolute cluster fuck.
 

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Turkish army got banged out at the Siege of Van by Armenian militas, old age pensioners, kids and women with hunting rifles back in the day. Nation of bullying cunts. Never a fair fight with them, and still they lose their bottle. Wankers.

 
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I mean Turkish border therefore NATO is very close to Tehran (and Baghdad) if it comes down to good old bombing, and it overlooks Bosphorus. Geostrategic importance.
The Black Sea Fleet ,of the erstwhile Soviet Union/present-day Russia , is based in the Sevastopol, Crimea, and the ships have to go through the narrow Bosporus and Dardanelles(Hellespont) Straits to get to the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas..

Also if an invading force wants to bypass the straits and attack Turkey by land,it is a difficult proposition , because of Turkey's hilly and mountainous terrain. A case in point being the unsuccessful Dardanelles/Gallipoli Campaign ,during World War I ,in which British Empire and French forces suffered heavy losses.

Better to have Turkey in NATO than out.
 
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So why has Trump made your defence budget the highest it’s ever been, if he’s so bothered about getting you fucked infrastructure sorted out? Why not cut it back 50% to something insane like 300 billion +, instead of over 600 billion, and pump that extra 300 billion into infrastructure projects and sorting out your VA, which is decried as a national embarrassment?
It isn't my decision to make. I am not certain what the thinking in DC is. I do know that our decades of fighting the "war on terror" took the focus off of maintaining our heavy forces necessary to fight a near-peer enemy like Russia or China, so we had to rebuild some of those long-ignored components of the military, which are some of the higher-cost elements, so I am sure that impacts the spending decisions to a significant degree.

I am all for reducing our international military presence and focusing on our internal issues that make civilian life and commerce good and efficient. Why Congress does not make a budget with increased spending on the infrastructure and decreases on military / intelligence spending is a mystery to me. Allocating funds is actually a function of Congress, not the President. They could simply reject the proposed budget that he submits and overrule him, and in the past they have. Perhaps they see the need to rebuild our heavy forces too? They don't tell me what they are thinking, mate.
 
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I'm kinda surprised mate, so you didn't fall for the "Syrian chemical warfare" trick? :good

Who do you reckon did it? The CIA proxies?
It was patently obvious that it was a false flag event. Our Intelligence Community has their own agenda that is clearly not in line with the President's. It has done this off and on back to JFK at least. Trump threatens them since they are an unconstitutional agency gone rogue and he wants that exposed.I believe there are elements in the IC / CIA that would / will pop him if they could / can.

They want Trump out of office because he, like Kennedy, is trying to rein them in. They seem to believe that they are the true masters of the USA and that the elected government is just for public show.

So yeah, I think the CIA was likely involved in the last "sarin gas" attack blamed on Assad and his forces.
 
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Yanks get a stiffy from "support the military" slogans whilst on the campaign trail. Anyone who makes a sane comment like yours are a "goddamn commie bastard who doesn't love America".
That is changing. Still a lot of reflexive jingoism and all that, but people here are truly getting sick of spending money overseas when we have a dire need for spending here. The coming decade or two will be interesting, I think, as Americans demand that we turn inward.
 
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