Tyson Fury (Lineal) vs. Deontay Wilder (WBC) II - February 22nd 2020

Fury vs. Wilder Winner and How?

  • Tyson Fury Stoppage

    Votes: 5 13.5%
  • Tyson Fury Decision

    Votes: 26 70.3%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Deontay Wilder Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Deontay Wilder Stoppage

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • Total voters
    37
Jun 4, 2012
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I'd like to see Fury fight some of the bout up closer too. He can get in body shots and uppercuts when up close, but Wilder is garbage at in fighting. Fury should mix it up. Make him miss, counter him etc from the outside as he did in the first fight, then step quickly inside to remove the danger of the right hand at range and rough him up on the inside, lean on him, work him over to sap some of his energy and then shove him off, step off and box him again.

If he does that, Wilder will be tired, frustrated and wildly looking for a haymaker towards the later rounds, and the shots will be easier than ever to read, and he will be even more open to counters. Fury could possibly then stop him late.
 
Jun 5, 2012
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I'd like to see Fury fight some of the bout up closer too. He can get in body shots and uppercuts when up close, but Wilder is garbage at in fighting. Fury should mix it up. Make him miss, counter him etc from the outside as he did in the first fight, then step quickly inside to remove the danger of the right hand at range and rough him up on the inside, lean on him, work him over to sap some of his energy and then shove him off, step off and box him again.

If he does that, Wilder will be tired, frustrated and wildly looking for a haymaker towards the later rounds, and the shots will be easier than ever to read, and he will be even more open to counters. Fury could possibly then stop him late.
Big John said pretty much the same and added that Tyson is in far better condition so I hope you're both right.

I'd fucking hate it if Wilder stopped Fury and worry if Wilder comes in a bit heavier he could carry more power and go for the kill in the first half of the fight. Despite his flaws he is a monster, no harm to the guy but I'd love to see Fury, Joshua, Ruiz and Whyte all maul the fucker and KO him! :lol:
 
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Big John said pretty much the same and added that Tyson is in far better condition so I hope you're both right.

I'd fucking hate it if Wilder stopped Fury and worry if Wilder comes in a bit heavier he could carry more power and go for the kill in the first half of the fight. Despite his flaws he is a monster, no harm to the guy but I'd love to see Fury, Joshua, Ruiz and Whyte all maul the fucker and KO him! :lol:
Same, glad John agrees with me. :lol:
 

Ar558a

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I cant see why everyone thinks Fury is going to improve massively and Wilder wont. I think Fury did a good job in his chosen game of dodging bar the two big punches. Is it realistic to think he can do that again? If Wilder even improves 10% he will probably land a couple more big shots and that could be enough to get the KO.
 
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I cant see why everyone thinks Fury is going to improve massively and Wilder wont. I think Fury did a good job in his chosen game of dodging bar the two big punches. Is it realistic to think he can do that again? If Wilder even improves 10% he will probably land a couple more big shots and that could be enough to get the KO.
Wilder just needs to purse more knockout attacks
 
Oct 29, 2018
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I cant see....
I agree with that part.

As for the result of the rematch, it could go either way. Fury was still finding his feet in the first fight after a long layoff and only two nothing warm up fights.

Wilder went within a whisker of knocking Fury out in the first fight and might go one better in the rematch.

Pickem fight. Could go either way.
 
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May 19, 2013
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I cant see why everyone thinks Fury is going to improve massively and Wilder wont. I think Fury did a good job in his chosen game of dodging bar the two big punches. Is it realistic to think he can do that again? If Wilder even improves 10% he will probably land a couple more big shots and that could be enough to get the KO.
You can't see how people think 30 year old Fury, after more time with his new trainer, after adapting to his weight loss, after four fights following a huge lay off might improve more than 34 year old Wilder who demonstrates the same strengths and flaws in every fight?
 
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You can't see how people think 30 year old Fury, after more time with his new trainer, after adapting to his weight loss, after four fights following a huge lay off might improve more than 34 year old Wilder who demonstrates the same strengths and flaws in every fight?
It isn't a case of can't see it. He doesn't want to acknowledge it. Big difference.
 
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Ar558a

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That doesn't surprise anybody.
It isn't a case of can't see it. He doesn't want to acknowledge it. Big difference.
Once again attacking anyone who doesn't worship Fury. He's not GOD. He is just a person. He had a good night when it comes to dodging in the first match. Maybe he can do the same again but I don't think Wilder is completely incapable of learning. Also if Fury tries to fight more as he feels more confident after Schwartz and whatever patsy he beats in the Autumn, he will have to give Wilder a better look at him. I'm not saying Wilder is a nailed on favourite but it's not like Wilder is an exhibition like some on here are acting.
 
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Once again attacking anyone who doesn't worship Fury. He's not GOD. He is just a person. He had a good night when it comes to dodging in the first match. Maybe he can do the same again but I don't think Wilder is completely incapable of learning. Also if Fury tries to fight more as he feels more confident after Schwartz and whatever patsy he beats in the Autumn, he will have to give Wilder a better look at him. I'm not saying Wilder is a nailed on favourite but it's not like Wilder is an exhibition like some on here are acting.
Fury was still finding his feet in the first Wilder fight after a long layoff that included turning himself into a human blimp through the consumption of an excess of alcohol, food and God knows what else. He had two nothing warm up fights and then jumped in with Wilder.

If you don't think Fury has improved on the still rehabilitating fighter he was 6 months ago I'd say you need your eyes tested.
 
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You know, last time I thought..."maybe it's too early, he;s still fat, out of shape and rusty" ..then the closer the fight got the more I remember how shit Wilder is and picked Fury fairly confidently by fight time, Fury looks much closer to his old self, Wilder was hurt by Fury too even caught his attention in the first round and the spectacular 1st round KO of Breazeale makes people forget he carelessly ran into a right hand and got hurt himself. Wilder won't change now he's 40 odd fights in, we know what he's about, reckless, bad defence, bad footwork, big right hand and he tends to freeze when he gets hit, which Fury didn't take advantage of last time because he came into the fight after 2 circus fights and long depressive suicidal drug stupors.

Fury is a lot better now than he was last year, Wilder is still just Wilder
 
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Jun 4, 2012
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I cant see why everyone thinks Fury is going to improve massively and Wilder wont.
Erm...because Fury had been out for 2.5 years, doing drugs and getting morbidly obese. He had two unimpressive warm up bouts, where he looked flabby, but at least able to box and then he stepped in with Wilder 2 years after last putting in a good performance.

Wilder was in his 41st pro fight, with no time off and had had his career best win that year.

What on earth suggests that he's suddenly improved on things he's failed to improve on in the past 3 years? It would be remarkable if any fighter that followed Fury's path wouldn't be better in their 5th or 6th bout back, after a long, drug and booze filled layoff, than in their third fight back.
 
May 16, 2013
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Fury's boxing is Godly at times. If he carried Wilder's power I think he would be unbeatable. Even knocking him out will only earn you a draw :rofl
 
Jul 6, 2012
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what a great fight. couldnt be a better build up with the first one. im going with tyson, but my big worry is he gets a bit too wrapped up with the price naz head movement stuff and starts to think he can go back on the ropes rather than being mega cautious.

if wilder had hit him with that bomb at the start of the fight rather than the end who knows how much harder it would have been.......