Tyson Fury (Lineal) vs. Deontay Wilder (WBC) II - February 22nd 2020

Fury vs. Wilder Winner and How?

  • Tyson Fury Stoppage

    Votes: 5 10.2%
  • Tyson Fury Decision

    Votes: 29 59.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Deontay Wilder Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Deontay Wilder Stoppage

    Votes: 15 30.6%

  • Total voters
    49
Oct 21, 2016
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Odd. That's not his game, he doesn't have the power to KO anyone decent. Surely he has to win on points using the usual dodge tactic. If he tries to KO him he'll have to stop the dodge and wilder will knock him into next Wednesday.
You need medical assistance
 
Jul 14, 2015
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Can we get odds on Fury v Wilder NOT happening next year?

Porky Russ may get mocked by a lot of people but he works with Dennis Hobson and clearly has connections in the game.

 
Jul 6, 2019
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All depends on Ruiz AJ, if Ruiz wins then he will fight Wilder. No doubt about that.
I initially thought the same, however, if the belts are unified it is much harder for Haymon to protect his fighters.

There is more chance that all 4 belts could be lost to a random mando he has no stake in, or someone out bids him on a purse bid and the winner has to fight on Espn or DAZN or be stripped.

Plus Ruiz will be a star, and probably a bigger draw than Wilder. He will have the Mexican fan base, has a unique selling point in his physique, is likeable, and was involved in the higher profile fights.

There will be a lot of money involved, but I could see them "building" the fight for a while.
 
Jun 7, 2013
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I initially thought the same, however, if the belts are unified it is much harder for Haymon to protect his fighters.

There is more chance that all 4 belts could be lost to a random mando he has no stake in, or someone out bids him on a purse bid and the winner has to fight on Espn or DAZN or be stripped.

Plus Ruiz will be a star, and probably a bigger draw than Wilder. He will have the Mexican fan base, has a unique selling point in his physique, is likeable, and was involved in the higher profile fights.

There will be a lot of money involved, but I could see them "building" the fight for a while.
Ruiz will have to defend his belt immediately vs Usyk so he could lose them all anyway. It’s better for Ruiz Wilder to happen right away. If the winner gets stripped etc it doesn’t mean much as the winner is still without a doubt no.1. They could always use that schtick against a vacant champion.

I see Pulev is pushing for IBF to strip Ruiz, it could be him vs Kownacki.
 
Oct 21, 2016
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Ruiz will have to defend his belt immediately vs Usyk so he could lose them all anyway. It’s better for Ruiz Wilder to happen right away. If the winner gets stripped etc it doesn’t mean much as the winner is still without a doubt no.1. They could always use that schtick against a vacant champion.

I see Pulev is pushing for IBF to strip Ruiz, it could be him vs Kownacki.
Pulev is a prick then trying to get a soft belt.
 
Jul 6, 2019
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Ruiz will have to defend his belt immediately vs Usyk so he could lose them all anyway. It’s better for Ruiz Wilder to happen right away. If the winner gets stripped etc it doesn’t mean much as the winner is still without a doubt no.1. They could always use that schtick against a vacant champion.

I see Pulev is pushing for IBF to strip Ruiz, it could be him vs Kownacki.
You could be right. It was my initial thought, and what most others think.

The only issue I see is if the winner dropped more than one belt to avoid their mandatory, it would start to look bad.

I also think Ruiz is very beatable, so there is a good chance he loses to whoever he fights. P probably wants that to be one of their fighters, Wilder will want it to be him, and Ruiz will want the most money possible.
 
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You could be right. It was my initial thought, and what most others think.

The only issue I see is if the winner dropped more than one belt to avoid their mandatory, it would start to look bad.

I also think Ruiz is very beatable, so there is a good chance he loses to whoever he fights. P probably wants that to be one of their fighters, Wilder will want it to be him, and Ruiz will want the most money possible.
Wilder Ruiz with the Mexican interest would do big money. I disagree with your comment avoiding mandatories, if Wilder vacated the WBO to fight Fury, we all would accept that.
 
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Wilder Ruiz with the Mexican interest would do big money. I disagree with your comment avoiding mandatories, if Wilder vacated the WBO to fight Fury, we all would accept that.
Yeah, we would.

But he has got a lot of stick for the fact he has fought so few mandatories, and that they have mainly been poor quality fighters, who are either tied to PBC or without any real representation.

If he dropped the wbo, (avoiding Usyk/Matchroom), tried to dodge Whyte again, then dropped the ibf cause Pukev/espn/Arum outbid him, it wouldn't look good.

Lot of ifs there, but with Haymon's record of avoiding mandatories, unifications, and non PBC fighters, and the fact DAZN and Espn would love to force Wilder to fight on their platforms or vacate, I could see the risk averse Haymon preventing an undisputed fight.

Could maybe let Ruiz drop a couple of belts, blame politics, have the Wilder fight and claim the other champs were gifted their belts.
 
Jun 28, 2013
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Can Fury, Wilder and Joshua all GTFO in their next fights please. Has there been any personalities, in the same era, in the same division, worse than those three in the history of boxing? One thinks he is the best ever, the other is a douchey Yank, and the other is insufferably dull.
 
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Jun 5, 2013
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Can Fury, Wilder and Joshua all GTFO in their next fights please. Has there been any personalities, in the same era, in the same division, worse than those three in the history of boxing? One thinks he is the best ever, the other is a douchey Yank, and the other is insufferably dull.

Ruiz is probably the most universally liked the guy in the division. Everyone likes him except that pre pubescent matchroom fanboy AR55 whatever his name is
 
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Ar558a

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Jun 2, 2019
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Ruiz is probably the most universally liked the guy in the division. Everyone likes him except that pre pubescent matchroom fanboy AR55 whatever his name is
I presume only because he is a fat fuck and makes you all feel like you could win the HW title too. I haven't seen any particular personality from him either.
 

Jack McW

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Nov 23, 2014
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I presume only because he is a fat fuck and makes you all feel like you could win the HW title too. I haven't seen any particular personality from him either.
Fury wasnt dodging much last night and attempted more knock out attacks.. thought you would like that mate
 
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I presume only because he is a fat fuck and makes you all feel like you could win the HW title too. I haven't seen any particular personality from him either.
He did win the heavyweight title. Are you in such an advanced state of denial you don't know that?