***UFC!*** The Authentic Official Israel "The Last Stylebender" Adesanya Undefeated, Undisputed Middleweight Champion / General MMA Thread

Who do you WANT to win? (Not who do you think WILL win)

  • I want the Fighting Irish to win

  • I want the 209 to represent again

  • I just want a good, action-packed fight like the last one

  • Test to see if I can change the poll?

  • Are these options 4 and 5?


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Without a doubt Gaethje’s the easier fight. It’d probably stay on the feet, for a start, and they’re at least the same size.

Usman would molest McGregor.
Yea. While I absolutely think that a fight with Justin might go either way, I can more easily picture it going brutally in favor of Conor right now.
 
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Yea. While I absolutely think that a fight with Justin might go either way, I can more easily picture it going brutally in favor of Conor right now.
I think I’d fancy Gaethje tbh, but not enough that I’d stick big money on it. I think he might finally be the person to chop the fuck out of Conor’s legs when he’s in that wide karate-style stance.

It’s a fight I’d love to see, and I’d probably favour Conor by the time the fight came around because I get proper sucked in by the press conferences and the build up of big fights. I just find it hard to doubt anyone with his sort of confidence.

But yeah, if the fight was happening tomorrow, I’d fancy Gaethje. He’s improved so much.
 
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I think I’d fancy Gaethje tbh, but not enough that I’d stick big money on it. I think he might finally be the person to chop the fuck out of Conor’s legs when he’s in that wide karate-style stance.

It’s a fight I’d love to see, and I’d probably favour Conor by the time the fight came around because I get proper sucked in by the press conferences and the build up of big fights. I just find it hard to doubt anyone with his sort of confidence.

But yeah, if the fight was happening tomorrow, I’d fancy Gaethje. He’s improved so much.
I don't have a great reason for favoring Conor at this point other than where Justin's punches come from. In slow motion is looks like he's there to get caught. That said, he's improved unbelievably. Go watch Luke Thomas's breakdown of the fight with Tony. Justin was doing some truly amazing things
 

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I don't have a great reason for favoring Conor at this point other than where Justin's punches come from. In slow motion is looks like he's there to get caught. That said, he's improved unbelievably. Go watch Luke Thomas's breakdown of the fight with Tony. Justin was doing some truly amazing things
I like how Luke always talks down his analytical breakdown skills, like he's just one step up from a random chump off the street analysing the fights. And it's like mate, I watch a fight and then watch your breakdown the next day, and when you explain what was REALLY going on the whole time, I feel like the video feed must have cut out and I missed so much that I only got a sense of how it played out from the audio and commentary. :lol:

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I don't have a great reason for favoring Conor at this point other than where Justin's punches come from. In slow motion is looks like he's there to get caught. That said, he's improved unbelievably. Go watch Luke Thomas's breakdown of the fight with Tony. Justin was doing some truly amazing things
Got a link? I like his stuff but I haven’t seen this.
 
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I like how Luke always talks down his analytical breakdown skills, like he's just one step up from a random chump off the street analysing the fights. And it's like mate, I watch a fight and then watch your breakdown the next day, and when you explain what was REALLY going on the whole time, I feel like the video feed must have cut out and I missed so much that I only got a sense of how it played out from the audio and commentary. :lol:

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Yea. Then he'll do some freezeframe where he's like "That's what the entire fight was about in one moment," or whatever. Then you go back and watch the fight and it becomes the biggest thing you see. Justin creating those angles, and forcing Tony into squaring his shoulders set up so much. The step through into the overhand left and the stepping out has stuck in my head the last day.

All of a sudden I'm like...Tony didn't have a chance. The fact that he made it competitive at all is a credit to how great he is.
 
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Yea. Then he'll do some freezeframe where he's like "That's what the entire fight was about in one moment," or whatever. Then you go back and watch the fight and it becomes the biggest thing you see. Justin creating those angles, and forcing Tony into squaring his shoulders set up so much. The step through into the overhand left and the stepping out has stuck in my head the last day.

All of a sudden I'm like...Tony didn't have a chance. The fact that he made it competitive at all is a credit to how great he is.
Yep.

On reflection, that fight seems a lot like an MMA version of Barrera-Hamed. Everybody got so carried away with how creative and unpredictable Hamed was, how his attacks were so varied and unorthodox and you couldn't train for him.

Then Barrera got in there and went "Fundamentals exist for a reason. Watch me take you to school all fucking night long with a basic jab, left hook, straight right and clinch tie-up." And he never got sucked into playing Hamed's game, and he beat his ass start to finish like he was Naseem's big brother. :lol:

I didn't see Gaethje being the one to do that to Ferguson, though. But he did. By the start of the third round, he had tamed Tony with clean, energy-efficient fundamentals. Every time Tony tried to throw anything or do anything, Justin would just smack him one clean punch, kick his leg, and disengage. And Tony had no answers, was quickly reduced to throwing single strikes at a time, and was flinching every time HE went to throw something at Justin. :yikes

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Yep.

On reflection, that fight seems a lot like an MMA version of Barrera-Hamed. Everybody got so carried away with how creative and unpredictable Hamed was, how his attacks were so varied and unorthodox and you couldn't train for him.

Then Barrera got in there and went "Fundamentals exist for a reason. Watch me take you to school all fucking night long with a basic jab, left hook, straight right and clinch tie-up." And he never got sucked into playing Hamed's game, and he beat his ass start to finish like he was Naseem's big brother. :lol:

I didn't see Gaethje being the one to do that to Ferguson, though. But he did. By the start of the third round, he had tamed Tony with clean, energy-efficient fundamentals. Every time Tony tried to throw anything or do anything, Justin would just smack him one clean punch, kick his leg, and disengage. And Tony had no answers, was quickly reduced to throwing single strikes at a time, and was flinching every time HE went to throw something at Justin. :yikes

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Yea. The flinching part is where you start to really recognize the asswhoopin. Justin was slinging stones out there, and Tony was not having fun.

I see him open for the kind of accuracy and timing that Conor has, but who knows. Might beat his ass too.
 

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Yea. The flinching part is where you start to really recognize the asswhoopin. Justin was slinging stones out there, and Tony was not having fun.

I see him open for the kind of accuracy and timing that Conor has, but who knows. Might beat his ass too.
Yeah Conor will snipe him, but how many leg kicks is he going to eat with that karate stance? McGregor needs to either KO him or threaten to Anderson Silva him early. Gaethje has a cinder block for a head, hits like bricks, never gets discouraged and won't let Conor rest for a second. I think if they fight and Gaethje answers the bell for the third round, Conor is in big big trouble. And maybe Gaethje breaks him quicker than that. :conf

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Yeah Conor will snipe him, but how many leg kicks is he going to eat with that karate stance? McGregor needs to either KO him or threaten to Anderson Silva him early. Gaethje has a cinder block for a head, hits like bricks, never gets discouraged and won't let Conor rest for a second. I think if they fight and Gaethje answers the bell for the third round, Conor is in big big trouble. And maybe Gaethje breaks him quicker than that. :conf

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The one thing I will say in Justin's favor, he's got a better understanding of lateral movement than Conor seems to. Conor loves straight lines. They have served him well, but if Justin can make some cool angles, he might find Conor early and often.
 
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Tony almost had Gaethje oout with that uppercut at the end of the second I think with his late replacement covid training camp stamina seemed to fail aswell before he got a second wind.
Not impossible to think he can be knocked out by McGregor.
 
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Tony almost had Gaethje oout with that uppercut at the end of the second I think with his late replacement covid training camp stamina seemed to fail aswell before he got a second wind.
Not impossible to think he can be knocked out by McGregor.
Justin was up immediately. He can definitely be caught, but he wasn't almost put out. I didn't see a single sign of him facing at all.
 
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If that round would have been 15
Seconds longer he eould have been put out.
Not sure about that, the uppercut was great but he got straight back up, walked to his corner fine and acknowledged the good shot, don't think he was getting stopped with 15 extra seconds
 
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Not sure about that, the uppercut was great but he got straight back up, walked to his corner fine and acknowledged the good shot, don't think he was getting stopped with 15 extra seconds
And then came out for round 3, went straight back to his gameplan, and immediately started his most dominant round up to that point.

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You can't know this to be true. You probably don't believe it either.

Justin was hurt but appeared to recover very quickly. I didn't get the sense he was ready to go.
We've seen fighters stagger back to their corners in a daze. That wasn't it.

Whittaker was dropped hard and about to be KOed at the last second of the round by Adesanya. He was in a daze going back to his corner.

Then he came out for the second and it was immediately obvious the fight was lost. He got KOed a couple of minutes later. Gaethje never looked like that. He was laughing at himself on his way back to his corner.

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