***UFC!*** The Authentic Official Israel "The Last Stylebender" Adesanya Undefeated, Undisputed Middleweight Champion / General MMA Thread

Who do you WANT to win? (Not who do you think WILL win)

  • I want the Fighting Irish to win

  • I want the 209 to represent again

  • I just want a good, action-packed fight like the last one

  • Test to see if I can change the poll?

  • Are these options 4 and 5?


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Haggis

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For sure. His skill is obvious. He has since admitted that he had no idea how to actually fight. He knew how to box (with gloves) and he knew how to wrestle, but he couldn't execute a gameplan whatsoever. Now he's learning to actually fight, and I think he's going to match the initial hype, if a little delayed.

Or he gets starched by a nobody. Guess we'll see.
Yep, I kept the faith. I see him wearing the belt. He's too good and too obsessed to go his entire career without it. Everything is in place, he just needs experience. Might be a bit chinny, but I don't see it as being a real negative. Everyone can be knocked out, and especially by guys with an extra 20 pro fights worth of experience.

Pico looks like a destroyer when he goes to the body with his punches too.

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Yep, I kept the faith. I see him wearing the belt. He's too good and too obsessed to go his entire career without it. Everything is in place, he just needs experience. Might be a bit chinny, but I don't see it as being a real negative. Everyone can be knocked out, and especially by guys with an extra 20 pro fights worth of experience.

Pico looks like a destroyer when he goes to the body with his punches too.

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He knows how to punch to the body in the way that only people from striking sports really understand.

I don’t know if he's chinny or not. He's only really been put down by huge shots, and was always in a shitty position to take them. It really just speaks to him never learning to actually fight, he just knew how to attack people.
 

Haggis

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Nice win by Jimmy Crute today. Getting some momentum in the LHW division, and he's only a baby. Looked sharp, KOed the guy three times in five seconds for the finish, then gave him a hug and was very calm and concerned for his wellbeing. :lol:

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That Ortega was amazing. Didn't Zombie look...off though?
Ortega looked impressive he's stand up and movement have gone up a few levels since the Holloway fight. This was probably the last outcome I expected Ortega dominating on the feet over 5 Rounds.

I think Zombie was probably more surprised how much Ortega has improved on the feet like nearly everyone else were.
 
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Ortega looked impressive he's stand up and movement have gone up a few levels since the Holloway fight. This was probably the last outcome I expected Ortega dominating on the feet over 5 Rounds.

I think Zombie was probably more surprised how much Ortega has improved on the feet like nearly everyone else were.
He looked great, and his jab really shocked me. Still...Zombie looked like shit to me. I dunno. I'm also a huge fan, so I see what I want to, I'm sure.
 
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That Ortega was amazing. Didn't Zombie look...off though?
I might be giving him too much credit but it seemed like Ortega was consistently feinting, faking shots, doing little leg drags, etc, to the point where KZ couldn’t get in any sort of a rhythm and apply his normal amount of constant pressure.

I was amazed by that result. I was convinced that would be a fairly ‘simple’ stoppage, or at worst a wide UD for KZ. Great display from Ortega, he looked like a completely different fighter.
 
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I might be giving him too much credit but it seemed like Ortega was consistently feinting, faking shots, doing little leg drags, etc, to the point where KZ couldn’t get in any sort of a rhythm and apply his normal amount of constant pressure.

I was amazed by that result. I was convinced that would be a fairly ‘simple’ stoppage, or at worst a wide UD for KZ. Great display from Ortega, he looked like a completely different fighter.
That he did. The new age of MMA fighters are using striking skills that simply didn't exist a decade ago. The somewhat older MMA fighters that are adding those things are winning against the ones that aren't. Justin, for example, is adding those things and look what we get. Israel brought those things in with him, and he ran straight to the title.

I'm finally not embarrassed to watch MMA striking anymore. I'd finally pick just about any of the top strikers to SMASH any boxers in a kickboxing fight. I definitely didn't used to feel that way. Most of them had no idea what they were doing outside of the techniques.
 
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Nice win by Jimmy Crute today. Getting some momentum in the LHW division, and he's only a baby. Looked sharp, KOed the guy three times in five seconds for the finish, then gave him a hug and was very calm and concerned for his wellbeing. :lol:

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I’m desperate to see Crute vs Johnny Walker. I give more of a fuck about that than I do about the first LHW title defence.
 
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That he did. The new age of MMA fighters are using striking skills that simply didn't exist a decade ago. The somewhat older MMA fighters that are adding those things are winning against the ones that aren't. Justin, for example, is adding those things and look what we get. Israel brought those things in with him, and he ran straight to the title.

I'm finally not embarrassed to watch MMA striking anymore. I'd finally pick just about any of the top strikers to SMASH any boxers in a kickboxing fight. I definitely didn't used to feel that way. Most of them had no idea what they were doing outside of the techniques.
That technique Gaethje uses is so good. He uses the momentum from his slip to throw a fucking haymaker of a chopping low kick. It’s so good to see MMA fighters doing stuff like that and using it effectively.

Even up to 2 years ago you’d only ever see a slip or a roll as a movement all on its own. Now it’s being used to simultaneously turn a defensive move into a fucking nasty attack.
 
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Ive been watching a lot of khabib and gaethje fights recently. Convinced that nobody has really put any effort into taking Justin down, poirier caught his legs about 5 times and was lazy with it. Fully expecting khabib to take him down early on and just maul him the entire fight.
 
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Ive been watching a lot of khabib and gaethje fights recently. Convinced that nobody has really put any effort into taking Justin down, poirier caught his legs about 5 times and was lazy with it. Fully expecting khabib to take him down early on and just maul him the entire fight.
Possible, and I think that that is definitely what the experts will say, but I recommend watching the Gaethje fights from Vick through Ferguson. You'll see more feinting, distance management, and most of all discipline. Those are the things that would frustrat Khabib most of all. Keep him from having a good shot, and being and to disengage and change the angle on the exit.
 
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Ive been watching a lot of khabib and gaethje fights recently. Convinced that nobody has really put any effort into taking Justin down, poirier caught his legs about 5 times and was lazy with it. Fully expecting khabib to take him down early on and just maul him the entire fight.
Michael Johnson got Gaethje to the deck with a clinch near the fence, too. I’ve heard a lot of people saying he scrambles well to get back to his feet but in the example they keep showing (against Alvarez, I think) he exposes his back massively. That’s fine in collegiate wrestling, but not in a sport where you can get strangled, and especially not against Khabib.

I think Gaethje’s fucking great, and genuinely the second best fighter in the division, but I still can’t see Khabib having any issues getting him to the ground and keeping him there. His best hope, and it was the same for Conor, is to hit him fucking clean early on and either KO him or capitalise heavily from Khabib being shaken up.
 
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Haggis

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Yo Luke Thomas's breakdowns of Kabib and Justin are making it impossible to comfortably pick this one.
It's true. :lol:

It's funny that the guy talks for two hours and makes heaps of insightful comments and rolls out lots of in-depth technical analysis, and then really it all boils down to him saying "if Khabib can take him down, then he wins via smesh. If Justin can stay on his feet in the middle of the cage, then he'll knock him out. What's gonna happen? Well, fucked if I know. Don't listen to me anyway, I'm a donk, I hardly know anything about this shit." :lol:

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It's true. :lol:

It's funny that the guy talks for two hours and makes heaps of insightful comments and rolls out lots of in-depth technical analysis, and then really it all boils down to him saying "if Khabib can take him down, then he wins via smesh. If Justin can stay on his feet in the middle of the cage, then he'll knock him out. What's gonna happen? Well, fucked if I know. Don't listen to me anyway, I'm a donk, I hardly know anything about this shit." :lol:

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Yep. I can't pick it. My head tells me Khabib takes it easy, but I can see Justin just dominating this fight with movement, leg kicks from close range, and power. Then everyone will say how Conor would easily win a rematch and that Khabin was always overrated.
 

Haggis

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Yep. I can't pick it. My head tells me Khabib takes it easy, but I can see Justin just dominating this fight with movement, leg kicks from close range, and power. Then everyone will say how Conor would easily win a rematch and that Khabin was always overrated.
It's one of those fights where you just have no idea who is going to win, you can see it for both of them so clear, but you just have this sneaky feeling that whichever one of them wins, he'll do it via near-total domination and look sensational.

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