UK Politics: General Election - December 12th 2019

General Election 2019: Who would you vote for?


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Clarence Worley

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Nov 19, 2018
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What’s your take on Boris’ admission that Northern Ireland currently have a “great deal” with the retention of freedom of movement & access to the single market.

Also, if that’s such a “great deal”, why can’t England, Scotland & Wales also have that deal?

And finally, this is the man who was adamant that we had to leave the single market, and reject freedom of movement, so is he lying about Northern Ireland’s “great deal”, or is he lying about us needing to leave the SM & reject FOM?
My view is everything he claims to have won back will be lost in the trade phase. May agreeing to the Eu schedule and separation was a fatal error and one that has been framing for the whole debate.

It’s not a great deal - it’s shite imo and I want no deal still
 
Jun 7, 2013
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Your mate in the no deal campaign is obviously still passing on knowledge no one else is clued up on, jammy cunt
 
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My view is everything he claims to have won back will be lost in the trade phase. May agreeing to the Eu schedule and separation was a fatal error and one that has been framing for the whole debate.

It’s not a great deal - it’s shite imo and I want no deal still
So you’re happy with increased tariffs, more expensive goods and making the country as a whole, poorer, for an unspecified length of time*

Just one question - why?

*This isnt the prediction of remoaners, scaremongers, or project fear - it’s the findings of the Yellowhammer report, which was compiled by Boris’ own people.
 

Clarence Worley

leaner than mandy...
Nov 19, 2018
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So you’re happy with increased tariffs, more expensive goods and making the country as a whole, poorer, for an unspecified length of time*

Just one question - why?

*This isnt the prediction of remoaners, scaremongers, or project fear - it’s the findings of the Yellowhammer report, which was compiled by Boris’ own people.
More tariffs will drop, many goods will become cheaper and the last 40 years benefits have imo made us poorer.
 
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More tariffs will drop, many goods will become cheaper and the last 40 years benefits have imo made us poorer.
Sorry bud, but it doesn’t matter how many times you repeat the line about tariffs dropping & goods becoming cheaper, it won’t make it true.

Prices of goods will increase. People’s disposable income will shrink even smaller, and all for an undetermined period of time.

@Strike took the time to explain the figures, far better than I could.

Every single piece of evidence points towards a rise in tariffs - as backed-up by the Yellowhammer report, which as I said, cannot be dismissed as remain propaganda, as it was Boris’ own personal report.

Boris Johnson knows a no deal Brexit would cripple the low-earners of this country.

You even referred to Minford, a man said that a no-deal Brexit would be a success, despite the fact that he also said it would wipe out several fields of manufacture in this country, which would cost over 1 million jobs.
 
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May 8, 2013
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More tariffs will drop, many goods will become cheaper and the last 40 years benefits have imo made us poorer.
If you are free to make bilateral trade deals with non-EU nations such as the USA, your food prices should drop. As we are now exporting oil, natural gas, petrol and the like, I would think your energy prices might drop a bit as well, unless the North Sea share you get covers your entire needs (I have no idea and can't be "arsed" to look). Your exports to the USA will go up if a trade deal is reached, as things like British cars become more affordable here. Trump has said he is open to a bilateral deal with the UK that would be nearly tariff free. Both sides could protect a few essential industries (basic common sense here, we all need our own defense industries as an example) with the rest traded as if we were just different states in the same nation.

I don't see how staying in what was originally set up as a trade protectionist organization like the EU benefits the UK, to be honest, unless the UK is the top dog in that organization. Unfortunately, from an outsider's perspective, it looks like Germany is the top dog as long as they have the French backing their play - and it seems like they usually do.

The UK is limiting its own potential by staying in that mess.
 
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mandela

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If you are free to make bilateral trade deals with non-EU nations such as the USA, your food prices should drop. As we are now exporting oil, natural gas, petrol and the like, I would think your energy prices might drop a bit as well, unless the North Sea share you get covers your entire needs (I have no idea and can't be "arsed" to look). Your exports to the USA will go up if a trade deal is reached, as things like British cars become more affordable here. Trump has said he is open to a bilateral deal with the UK that would be nearly tariff free. Both sides could protect a few essential industries (basic common sense here, we all need our own defense industries as an example) with the rest traded as if we were just different states in the same nation.

I don't see how staying in what was originally set up as a trade protectionist organization like the EU benefits the UK, to be honest, unless the UK is the top dog in that organization. Unfortunately, from an outsider's perspective, it looks like Germany is the top dog as long as they have the French backing their play - and it seems like they usually do.

The UK is limiting its own potential by staying in that mess.
You're an ignorant cunt.

No idea what you're talking about.

Fuck off.
 
May 8, 2013
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You're an ignorant cunt.

No idea what you're talking about.

Fuck off.
:lol:

Yeah, a bilateral, low-tariff trade agreement with the hottest economy on the planet which dwarfs your own, instead of one with the moribund, gasping EU would be bad for the UK.

You are a clown.

You get a special place on my ignore list with some of the other retards.
 
May 8, 2013
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@Major Pain bunch of little Euers in here.

The worst is still to come for the shitty Eu economy

It has been an under-performing mess for quite a while, and I suspect that you are correct that the worst is yet to come. Why anyone would purposefully tie their national future to that is really strange.
 

Clarence Worley

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Nov 19, 2018
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It has been an under-performing mess for quite a while, and I suspect that you are correct that the worst is yet to come. Why anyone would purposefully tie their national future to that is really strange.
It’s been a disaster for the uk, for Italy, for Spain .... basically the whole of Europe bar Germany
 
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Clarence Worley

leaner than mandy...
Nov 19, 2018
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And even Germany has stagnant growth and is at high risk for a recession. They are going to drag down everyone they are tightly bound to.
The project was never designed to work it was just designed to be irreversible. Such is the strength of German desire for European rule, they would rather ruin it than not rule it. Tragic really. Many vets wonder what the hell they bothered fighting for