Usyk isn't popular enough for me to fight - Whyte

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No only Degale has won a world title and is it the end of his career, he's achieved everything. Whyte has done fuck all except beat a few fringe guys and gate keepers now he's calling the shots on who he fights and for how much. I like Whyte I think he's entertaining but this kind of behaviour is bullshit, fight the fucking best or fuck off.
I agree with you, Whyte’s put money before title shots. People talk as if he’s fought a murderers row.

If Luis Ortiz & Pulev we’re able to fight Chisora & Parker on PPV I’m 100% certain they’d be doing it & laughing all the way to the bank
 
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I agree with you, Whyte’s put money before title shots. People talk as if he’s fought a murderers row.

If Luis Ortiz & Pulev we’re able to fight Chisora & Parker on PPV I’m 100% certain they’d be doing it & laughing all the way to the bank
Pulev dealt with a fresher better version of Chisora with ease and Im pretty sure Ortiz would have done the same, I blame Matchroom and Sky for encouraging this type of shit from Whyte. He hasn't done anything in the division to warrant high purses and PPV events yet he's now demanding them for every fight, its fucking ridiculous tbh.
 

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There's no doubt Whyte is part of the new breed of overpaid entitled boxers but that's hardly his fault. He just happens to have been in the right place at the right time and a decent businessman too.
 
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No only Degale has won a world title and is it the end of his career, he's achieved everything. Whyte has done fuck all except beat a few fringe guys and gate keepers now he's calling the shots on who he fights and for how much. I like Whyte I think he's entertaining but this kind of behaviour is bullshit, fight the fucking best or fuck off.
Oh dear oh dear.

He's boxed Joshua, Parker, Chisora twice. His run to a title shot would of been harder then Furys.
 
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Oh dear oh dear.

He's boxed Joshua, Parker, Chisora twice. His run to a title shot would of been harder then Furys.
He got knocked the fuck out by Joshua and pretty much dominated by him bar landing one good punch, Parker and Chisora are no great shakes lets be honest Chisora has been done for years. Pulev and Ortiz are the two top boys just below Fury, Wilder and AJ and Whyte has fought neither and probably doesn't intend to.

You spoke about Fury there, compare Tysons two performances against Chisora to Whytes, thats levels mate. Who gives a shit if he's had a harder road he's not beating any of the big boys regardless.
 
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He got knocked the fuck out by Joshua and pretty much dominated by him bar landing one good punch, Parker and Chisora are no great shakes lets be honest Chisora has been done for years. Pulev and Ortiz are the two top boys just below Fury, Wilder and AJ and Whyte has fought neither and probably doesn't intend to.

You spoke about Fury there, compare Tysons two performances against Chisora to Whytes, thats levels mate. Who gives a shit if he's had a harder road he's not beating any of the big boys regardless.
The Pulev fight I would like to see actually, good call.

However if Whyte beats him people will still say he needs to beat Ortiz. I've never said Fury wasn't better then Whyte, because he clearly is but it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that Whyte could beat Wilder himself.
 
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The Pulev fight I would like to see actually, good call.

However if Whyte beats him people will still say he needs to beat Ortiz. I've never said Fury wasn't better then Whyte, because he clearly is but it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that Whyte could beat Wilder himself.
No they wont, Pulev is a top top fighter, the casuals might say it but anybody that knows heavyweight boxing knows Pulev is a handful for anybody.
 
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No they wont, Pulev is a top top fighter, the casuals might say it but anybody that knows heavyweight boxing knows Pulev is a handful for anybody.
Pulev would give AJ serious problems, not sure he would beat him but it would of been a decent fight back in 2017.
 
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No only Degale has won a world title and is it the end of his career, he's achieved everything. Whyte has done fuck all except beat a few fringe guys and gate keepers now he's calling the shots on who he fights and for how much. I like Whyte I think he's entertaining but this kind of behaviour is bullshit, fight the fucking best or fuck off.
As I've said many times already he's fought and beat better opposition than the majority of the division this past year or so. Everyone is on standby for a world title shot bar Whyte at the moment. You've got povetkin and Ortiz fresh from KO defeats to the champs, miller fighting fodder in hunt of the Joshua payday the same can be said of a few other contenders. Whyte has had the best year in the division outside of possibly joshua and throw fury in there maybe on par with him for his comeback. I don't see why Whyte has to go through the top 10 to get a shot when the rest of the contenders are hardly going through the top 20-30. He's earned his shot at a champion and now needs a shot.

I think he loses to the top 3 btw, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get a chance to get in the ring with them.
 
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I don’t disagree with you mate but if he wanted to force it through he could have taken those eliminators and guaranteed a shot even if he had to wait around for the mandatory to be called
If he had turned down eliminators and fought fodder I could take it but he hasn't. He's had a very good run this year and we all know the farce of 'final eliminators' which get you on a waiting list for 12 months. I applaud what he's done this year. He's much more deserving of a WBC shot than brezeale who's done piss all for his Mando slot.
 
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He's taken tough fights because they've all been on PPV and he's earnt a shed load for them. What genuine risks has he taken that he hasn't been rewarded for?

That said, if Wilder Fury 2 is next then AJ should fight Whyte. Outside of those 4, Usyk is the next best opponent, or possibly Pulev
And he's earned every penny. He could have sat on a bollocks ranking and not fought Parker or chisora. Following the miller route to success. Waiting it out for a shot at Joshua that would have came eventually but rather than following that model he's taking his own course but being slated because he isn't facing every killer in town, which neither of the champs are doing btw. He's doing exactly what brook should have done with khan and making it impossible for Joshua or even wilder to avoid him based on merit. That's not to say he has to take on everyone else before he gets to either of those 2.
 
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And he's earned every penny. He could have sat on a bollocks ranking and not fought Parker or chisora. Following the miller route to success. Waiting it out for a shot at Joshua that would have came eventually but rather than following that model he's taking his own course but being slated because he isn't facing every killer in town, which neither of the champs are doing btw. He's doing exactly what brook should have done with khan and making it impossible for Joshua or even wilder to avoid him based on merit. That's not to say he has to take on everyone else before he gets to either of those 2.
He should have fought Ortiz in an eliminator, Parker and Chisora were safe fights for him. It kind of all fell into place for him as well with the Chisora rematch because had Chisora not beaten Takam that night god knows what Whyte would be up to, he probably would have sat on his hole waiting for the AJ fight.
 

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But that smacks to me of Usyk doesn't belong in that list cos he might just be tougher than them. Dunno why he needs to mention him at all he's already got his shot in April.
Is there anything certain yet about April 13th?
 
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Why should Whyte fight in a Eliminator for the WBC ffs?

They overlooked him when he was number one and ordered Wilder to fight number 2,has Wilder actually boxed a mandatory other than Ortiz in his four year reign.

They will just mess him about, like they did both Degale and Eider Alverez. Great Belt shit organisation.
 
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But he hasn’t earned his shot... He had 2 chances to “earn” his shot against Pulev & Ortiz and turned them both down.
So what he turned a shot against pulev that was probably gonna be in Bulgaria promoted by some random outfit and for shit money. Then the whole WBC joke eliminator thing where he was put in an eliminator against the guy the champ had just beaten to be essentially a second mandatory after brezeale got his shot, so he would probably be sitting on that for 2 years wasting time. I don't call that turning down his chance, I call that making a business decision whilst also taking on good challenges in the guys he has faced and beat this year. I don't think he's fucked anyone, I just think he's maximised his earnings whilst putting together a credible record against genuine top 15 opponents, probably pushing top 6 with Parker.

Just answer this. Do you think he has credible names on his resume to warrant a title shot and what do you think in comparison to the other contenders opposition in the division?
 

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Are Miller and Breazeale really more well known than Usyk? Miller has never fought here and has fought against crap opposition, whereas Breazeale fought once a few years ago and got smashed. Usyk is the undisputed champ at cruiserweight and only two months ago did he stop Bellew in what was a big fight here. To dismiss him in favour of Breazeale and Miller is ridiculous. No mention of Ortiz either.

Just being American doesn't make you a big opponent by default, Miller or Breazeale don't even sell tickets. On the other hand, Usyk does get Ukrainian supporters travelling to watch him fight wherever he goes, and you can actually hear them as well.
 
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So what he turned a shot against pulev that was probably gonna be in Bulgaria promoted by some random outfit and for shit money. Then the whole WBC joke eliminator thing where he was put in an eliminator against the guy the champ had just beaten to be essentially a second mandatory after brezeale got his shot, so he would probably be sitting on that for 2 years wasting time. I don't call that turning down his chance, I call that making a business decision whilst also taking on good challenges in the guys he has faced and beat this year. I don't think he's fucked anyone, I just think he's maximised his earnings whilst putting together a credible record against genuine top 15 opponents, probably pushing top 6 with Parker.

Just answer this. Do you think he has credible names on his resume to warrant a title shot and what do you think in comparison to the other contenders opposition in the division?
He wouldn’t have had to travel to Bulgaria if he wanted that fight with Sky backing they’d have easily won the purse bid
 
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