Vasiliy Lomachenko (WBA & WBO) vs. Luke Campbell -- WBC Orders the Contest for Vacant Title

Lomachenko vs. Campbell Winner and How?

  • Vasiliy Lomachenko Stoppage

    Votes: 17 94.4%
  • Vasiliy Lomachenko Decision

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Luke Campbell Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Luke Campbell Stoppage

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Haha...Jesus.

@Strike it is getting comical.
Fighting for a title that Mikey vacated. It is comical that this fight should’ve been with Mikey Garcia instead, but Mikey tucked his sack and ran. What was Lomachenko meant to do? Say “Nah, I don’t care about unifying anymore if it can’t be done by beating Mikey”. Get real you imbecile. Campbell would be the best victory on Mikey’s resume, and he is an Olympic Gold Medalist. It’s absurd the standards that Lomachenko’s haters hold him to, they give him more praise than anybody else, in an indirect way.
 
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Even if wasn't for a title it'd still be a perfectly fine (stay-busy) fight. Olympic GOLD medalist and top 5 LWW. Compare that to all the atrocious stay-busy fights of 95%.
BTW when Mikey was fighting Zlaticanin, Lipinets and Easter Jr for titles the 2 Loma haters in this thread didn't complain.
 
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He is unifying the belts, this is how to do it. What exactly is your issue with that? That’s always been his clearly stated goal.
The fact that unifying means shit fights. His fights for 2019 will end up having been Crolla and Campbell. :lol: Two guys who both lost to Linares who Loma beat last year and who himself has recently been destroyed.

If the belts hold back great fights, fuck em off...Loma is above the level of exposure and reputation where he needs belts.
 
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Even if wasn't for a title it'd still be a perfectly fine (stay-busy) fight. Olympic GOLD medalist and top 5 LWW. Compare that to all the atrocious stay-busy fights of 95%.
BTW when Mikey was fighting Zlaticanin, Lipinets and Easter Jr for titles the 2 Loma haters in this thread didn't complain.
Are you referring to me as a Loma hater? :lol: I'm on record as saying he's as technically good as anyone I've ever seen in the sport and I love watching him fight, and I'd be supporting him in any big fight because I think it's an opportunity to see greatness cemented.

I'm a massive fan. I just can't justify pissing away 12 months of a limited prime on fighting fucking Crolla and then Campbell.

Campbell is better than Crolla, but not the level of opponent that Loma needs for legacy.
 
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The fact that unifying means shit fights. His fights for 2019 will end up having been Crolla and Campbell. :lol: Two guys who both lost to Linares who Loma beat last year and who himself has recently been destroyed.

If the belts hold back great fights, fuck em off...Loma is above the level of exposure and reputation where he needs belts.
Any fight is a shit fight for Lomachenko. Campbell will be more competitive than a Mikey fight would’ve been, I promise you that.
Unifying is the goal, and fighting the best available is all that is possible. What better fights are being held off because of Lomachenko fighting Campbell? Tank (doesn’t want it, different weight class)? Mikey (doesn’t want it, different weight class)? Teo (a complete prospect, has no title and no potential imo)? So what are all these apparent far better fights than an Olympic gold medallist for a vacant title, in the division that Loma is set on unifying?
It’s absolutely absurd to criticise this fight, and it’s absurd to criticise the desire to unify a division.
 
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Are you referring to me as a Loma hater? :lol: I'm on record as saying he's as technically good as anyone I've ever seen in the sport and I love watching him fight, and I'd be supporting him in any big fight because I think it's an opportunity to see greatness cemented.

I'm a massive fan. I just can't justify pissing away 12 months of a limited prime on fighting fucking Crolla and then Campbell.

Campbell is better than Crolla, but not the level of opponent that Loma needs for legacy.
So what are all these alternative fights that Lomachenko could’ve made, that haven’t happened? Are you criticising the sport or Lomachenko?
 
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So what are all these alternative fights that Lomachenko could’ve made, that haven’t happened? Are you criticising the sport or Lomachenko?
Both. More his team, as I have no doubt he would fight anyone. I'd prefer he moved down in weight to push for better fights, it's not like he's a natural lightweight anyway. Shit, I'd rather he moved down 2 classes or offered a catchweight to someone like Santa Cruz than had over a year of his prime spent on a run of Crolla, Campbell and Commey.
 
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Both. More his team, as I have no doubt he would fight anyone. I'd prefer he moved down in weight to push for better fights, it's not like he's a natural lightweight anyway. Shit, I'd rather he moved down 2 classes or offered a catchweight to someone like Santa Cruz than had over a year of his prime spent on a run of Crolla, Campbell and Commey.
His team have tried to get him fights with everyone. If he moved down he still wouldn’t have willing opponents, and do you expect him to abandon his titles at 135? He has a goal and he is focused on it. He is about the sport, not creating the most hyped and money making fights. As if anyone would accept a fight against Santa Cruz as valid, and there wouldn’t be anything on the line. At least against Campbell, Commey etc. there is the size disadvantage (as you admit) and titles in play.
This is why you’re getting called a Loma hater, because you’re a logical person saying illogical things, blaming Lomachenko for imaginary situations while ignoring his stated goal in the sport. If you’re going to get upset about this fight you should be upset at Mikey for vacating and doing whatever he is doing now. You thought that was a good fight, I think Campbell is a better fight than Mikey. For Lomachenko the point is the title so he can unify, that’s it. He gets to fight in the UK for a title against a gold medalist. And you think the better option is drop his titles for a catch weight fight against Santa Cruz? Absolutely absurd.
 
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His stated goal means poor fights that do nothing for legacy. Garcia has ducked him, so I do blame Garcia. Santa Cruz is bigger than Loma, could easily move up to super feather, has lost once in his career and avenged that loss, never been stopped, and is just outside the rings top ten p4p.

Berchelt or Davis would both be better and it's not about who you think is better, it's about who the pundits and most fans think is better... as those are the career defining bouts.

Beating Garcia would be massive in terms of how it is viewed by boxing fans and the history books. Beating Campbell won't be.

It's frustrating to see his prime years disappearing with fights like fucking Crolla.
 
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This will be at O2.

Feel sorry for Luke after he loses to Loma its gonna take him another 18 months to get a world title shot by which time will be nearly 34.
 

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Are you referring to me as a Loma hater? :lol: I'm on record as saying he's as technically good as anyone I've ever seen in the sport and I love watching him fight, and I'd be supporting him in any big fight because I think it's an opportunity to see greatness cemented.

I'm a massive fan. I just can't justify pissing away 12 months of a limited prime on fighting fucking Crolla and then Campbell.

Campbell is better than Crolla, but not the level of opponent that Loma needs for legacy.
I kind of was yeah but stand corrected :lol: For his legacy he needs to move up another division or go back down - although it would help if other fighters would move up or down to fight him as well.
Fights that would excite me are Prograis, Farmer and Davis.
I will watch the Campbell fight with interest though.
 
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I kind of was yeah but stand corrected :lol: For his legacy he needs to move up another division or go back down - although it would help if other fighters would move up or down to fight him as well.
Fights that would excite me are Prograis, Farmer and Davis.
I will watch the Campbell fight with interest though.
Down would be best, because I want to see him fight without huge, physical disadvantages, he's a natural feather anyway, so super feather is absolutely fine for him. Chase Davis, Berchelt, and even Santa Cruz...people laugh at this suggestion, but whey? Cruz is bigger than Loma, and coming up one division to super feather for a big fight should tempt him. Even Oscar Valdez tempted up a weight would be decent.

Lopez in say 18 months time would be good too.
 
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Down would be best, because I want to see him fight without huge, physical disadvantages, he's a natural feather anyway, so super feather is absolutely fine for him. Chase Davis, Berchelt, and even Santa Cruz...people laugh at this suggestion, but whey? Cruz is bigger than Loma, and coming up one division to super feather for a big fight should tempt him. Even Oscar Valdez tempted up a weight would be decent.

Lopez in say 18 months time would be good too.
Lopez is complete trash. Valdez would be a terrible opponent as well. Campbell is far better and meaningful challenge than those guys. Cruz is not bigger than Loma. Davis explicitly states he won’t fight Loma and you think he should chase him? You’re living on another planet.
 
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Youtube comments is a crazy place, people defending Loma vs Campbell as a PPV when Loma has never done a PPV in the US or Ukraine, people saying id pay to watch Loma when he was never going to be a PPV star unless he fights Mikey or Tank
 
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Lopez is complete trash. Valdez would be a terrible opponent as well. Campbell is far better and meaningful challenge than those guys. Cruz is not bigger than Loma. Davis explicitly states he won’t fight Loma and you think he should chase him? You’re living on another planet.
Again, you're utterly missing the point. It's about history books and how fights are perceived. It turns out that Lacy was not a good opponent for Calzaghe really...but that's not how it goes down in history. So YOU think that Campbell is better than all those other guys, and you think he'd be a better opponent than Mikey Garcia...great, history and the general population won't see it like that.

Campbell has lost twice and lost to Linares who an injured Loma already beat, and who has since been destroyed by someone else too. Garcia has lost to fucking Spence Jr at a much higher weight. Garcia was in the ring p4p top ten and tons of people thought he would beat Loma, so Garcia would be the best possible opponent despite you thinking he's crap.

Likewise, Lopez is getting hyped, if he's still unbeaten in 18 months and got number 1 contender status or picked up a vacant belt, he will be seen as the heir apparent, and beating him would shit on beating Campbell in terms of legacy. It's not about how YOU rate them, it's about building legacy.

Santa Cruz is half an inch taller than Loma, with a 3.5" reach advantage, so yes he is bigger than him in terms of height and reach, and if they met at super feather, the weight would be natural for him as by his own words he is about 130 or 131 on fight night at feather.

You are incapable of being objective when it comes to Loma and you constantly misinterpret what people are saying about building his legacy with what you think his opponents offer. You are on record saying that you would pick Campbell to beat Garcia, but do you think for one second that if Loma fought Garcia and beat him it would not be deemed a bigger win that would do more for his legacy than beating Campbell?