RBR!!! Vasyl Lomachenko (WBC, WBA & WBO) vs. Teofimo Lopez (IBF) - October 17th 2020

Lomachenko vs. Lopez Winner and How?


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REDC

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The fact Lomachenko is fighting above his optimal weight class was well documented long before this fight was even announced, it didn't prevent you and almost everyone else from predicting a comfortable victory. It's not appropriate to spend most of your time on here complaining about the size differential. It just smacks of sour grapes. Loma isn't infallible, he lost fair and square, and now you need to go find yourself another savant who is the best ever. Apparently. Because we are always on the look out for the next Mayweather, even if we need to manufacture one ourselves.
You're actually the only one in this thread that sounds sour. Surprisingly way, way more sour than Dealth With.

Everyone here is in unanimous agreement that the size difference was notable and an issue for Loma but for some reason it seems you badly wished the size difference wasn't an issue hence you're downplaying it :lol:

Look how I ask another forum a simple and honest question and how that triggers you. Claiming that I'm ''jumping through hoops'' :lol:
What did Teo weigh on fight night?
You're right, Teo should have been mandated to come in at the same weight as Loma.

This isn't fair!
Was just an honest question. No need to get your knickers in a bunch.
I'm perfectly fine. Just amusing watching you jump through hoops to absolve Loma of all responsibility for his loss..
You and Dealth With should get in the ring together - his biggest lover versus his biggest hater :lol:
 
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Not too proud to admit I was wrong about the outcome of the fight. I really thought Loma would take the kid out in the later rounds between 9-12 and that didn't come close to happening.

I know Loma usually starts slow, but you can't give away half the fight and then try to offer some resistance and expect to win. I had Lopez edging the fight and at best hoped it would wind up a draw, but Loma simply gave away too much by letting Lopez chase him around the ring for the first half.

The Lopez corner had a good game plan and it worked to perfection. He was patient and didn't go out trying to turn the fight into a war and possibly gassing in the later rounds and playing into Loma's strengths.
 

nvs

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Not too proud to admit I was wrong about the outcome of the fight. I really thought Loma would take the kid out in the later rounds between 9-12 and that didn't come close to happening.

I know Loma usually starts slow, but you can't give away half the fight and then try to offer some resistance and expect to win. I had Lopez edging the fight and at best hoped it would wind up a draw, but Loma simply gave away too much by letting Lopez chase him around the ring for the first half.

The Lopez corner had a good game plan and it worked to perfection. He was patient and didn't go out trying to turn the fight into a war and possibly gassing in the later rounds and playing into Loma's strengths.
I also thought Lomachenko will edge it in the end, one thing i did not know that he basically gave 5-6 rounds to Lopez without resistance. Good win for Lopez even though i do not agree with the scorecards of the judges i do agree with the result.
 
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Pedderrs

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You're actually the only one in this thread that sounds sour. Surprisingly way, way more sour than Dealth With.
Interesting theory, but why would I be sour when I have just been proven correct on my assessment of Lomachenko as a Pro?

Everyone here is in unanimous agreement that the size difference was notable and an issue for Loma but for some reason it seems you badly wished the size difference wasn't an issue hence you're downplaying it :lol:
I have repeatedly made reference to size being a factor. What are you talking about?

Also, just some friendly advice. Ending every sentence with a laughing emoticon doesn't strengthen your arguments.

Look how I ask another forum a simple and honest question and how that triggers you. Claiming that I'm ''jumping through hoops'' :lol:
You have spent more time here decrying the fact people supposedly aren't giving Lomachenko enough credit for fighting a green Lightweight than you have congratulating Teo and acknowleding Lomachenko's limitations as a fighter. That speaks volumes. You can't even bring yourself to condemn Dealt With's lunatic scorecard.

You and Dealth With should get in the ring together - his biggest lover versus his biggest hater :lol:
I have long acknowledged him to be a world class fighter and a P4P star, I just rejected YOUR notion that he is a messiah and unbeatable.

That doesn't make me a hater, it just makes me measured and correct.
 
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Watch these highlights.. listening to the commentary also reminds me of how ‘boxing fans’ were shaped by the Bradley-Pac commentary. I watched the Russian broadcast of this fight, hearing the English commentary I understand the general consensus now.

Let’s just think about this, you have a guy winning who has a highlight reel of landing punches on arms/gloves while getting landed on cleanly. I mean people here watch boxing right? We know what scoring punches are?

119-109? Remember another younger more marketable fighter getting an absurd scorecard against Floyd after getting dominated? 23 year old athletic Puerto Rican kid who talks shit and does backflips, or an ageing Ukrainian fighter who speaks limited English? You know we have Bob Arum as a promoter here right?

It’s hilarious how we’ll ignore what happened and swallow the corruption hook, line and sinker.... as if we don’t know anything about ‘professional’ boxing and how it works. We’re selling a product here, Lopez is a more valuable product than Lomachenko. It was easier than the Campbell fight for Lomachenko, but we have a young PR who still has that all important zero.
Let’s all pretend we don’t know what really happened here....


 

REDC

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Edit. never mind, just saw DW already posted the highlights.
 
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same here. Clinically delusional. It's actually a fascinating study. It's in "Bagdhad Bob" territory.
And I'm going with "psychological defense mechanism"
Watch these highlights.. listening to the commentary also reminds me of how ‘boxing fans’ were shaped by the Bradley-Pac commentary. I watched the Russian broadcast of this fight, hearing the English commentary I understand the general consensus now.

Let’s just think about this, you have a guy winning who has a highlight reel of landing punches on arms/gloves while getting landed on cleanly. I mean people here watch boxing right? We know what scoring punches are?

119-109? Remember another younger more marketable fighter getting an absurd scorecard against Floyd after getting dominated? 23 year old athletic Puerto Rican kid who talks shit and does backflips, or an ageing Ukrainian fighter who speaks limited English? You know we have Bob Arum as a promoter here right?

It’s hilarious how we’ll ignore what happened and swallow the corruption hook, line and sinker.... as if we don’t know anything about ‘professional’ boxing and how it works. We’re selling a product here, Lopez is a more valuable product than Lomachenko. It was easier than the Campbell fight for Lomachenko, but we have a young PR who still has that all important zero.
Let’s all pretend we don’t know what really happened here....



Generally when there is corruption, there is invariably a large and vocal chorus of independent people in forums, blogs--such as this!--Twitter calling "robbery!".

It may be meaningful when you are the only one on the planet who can see the robbery. Normally, when there is a robbery, there are at least two people in the world's population of 6 billion that can "see" it.

It is the very definition of "delusion" when you are the only one that can see something.
 

steviebruno

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Watch these highlights.. listening to the commentary also reminds me of how ‘boxing fans’ were shaped by the Bradley-Pac commentary. I watched the Russian broadcast of this fight, hearing the English commentary I understand the general consensus now.

Let’s just think about this, you have a guy winning who has a highlight reel of landing punches on arms/gloves while getting landed on cleanly. I mean people here watch boxing right? We know what scoring punches are?

119-109? Remember another younger more marketable fighter getting an absurd scorecard against Floyd after getting dominated? 23 year old athletic Puerto Rican kid who talks shit and does backflips, or an ageing Ukrainian fighter who speaks limited English? You know we have Bob Arum as a promoter here right?

It’s hilarious how we’ll ignore what happened and swallow the corruption hook, line and sinker.... as if we don’t know anything about ‘professional’ boxing and how it works. We’re selling a product here, Lopez is a more valuable product than Lomachenko. It was easier than the Campbell fight for Lomachenko, but we have a young PR who still has that all important zero.
Let’s all pretend we don’t know what really happened here....


Teo told you that Loma couldn't fight off the back foot and you didn't listen. He's never been anything more than an educated and enthusiastic swarmer. All of that side stepping and angles never came into play against a fighter with enough skill, size, and quickness to keep him occupied in retreat.
 
May 17, 2013
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Watch these highlights.. listening to the commentary also reminds me of how ‘boxing fans’ were shaped by the Bradley-Pac commentary. I watched the Russian broadcast of this fight, hearing the English commentary I understand the general consensus now.

Let’s just think about this, you have a guy winning who has a highlight reel of landing punches on arms/gloves while getting landed on cleanly. I mean people here watch boxing right? We know what scoring punches are?

119-109? Remember another younger more marketable fighter getting an absurd scorecard against Floyd after getting dominated? 23 year old athletic Puerto Rican kid who talks shit and does backflips, or an ageing Ukrainian fighter who speaks limited English? You know we have Bob Arum as a promoter here right?

It’s hilarious how we’ll ignore what happened and swallow the corruption hook, line and sinker.... as if we don’t know anything about ‘professional’ boxing and how it works. We’re selling a product here, Lopez is a more valuable product than Lomachenko. It was easier than the Campbell fight for Lomachenko, but we have a young PR who still has that all important zero.
Let’s all pretend we don’t know what really happened here....


Damn man, you are coming off like one seriously butt-hurt Loma fan. I watched the fight and the absolute best outcome for Loma would have been a draw, but he didn't even do enough to warrant that. You seem to be taking the loss more so than the entire Loma corner.

What's the matter, have to settle with the bookie on Tuesday or something?????
 

Pedderrs

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Damn man, you are coming off like one seriously butt-hurt Loma fan. I watched the fight and the absolute best outcome for Loma would have been a draw, but he didn't even do enough to warrant that. You seem to be taking the loss more so than the entire Loma corner.

What's the matter, have to settle with the bookie on Tuesday or something?????
This isn't financial. All heart. It's broken.

We should be more sympathetic.