RBR!!! Vasyl Lomachenko (WBC, WBA & WBO) vs. Teofimo Lopez (IBF) - October 17th 2020

[Bjj_Boxer]

Everybody here does from what this thread shows.

Yes, yes they do

 

[Dealt_with]

I score fights better than you...at least from what this thread shows

You do realise you didn’t even score the fight right? Of course you don’t. You sat there without a thought of your own, getting excited by missed punches, listening to commentators call an imaginary fight, and then looking to others scorecards to validate the scorecard you copied from the imaginary fight men and compubox who told you exactly what to think.
158 power punches from Teo yet the highlights show half a dozen glancing punches, while Lomachenko has combinations landing clean whenever he punches, with Lomachenko being the least marked up he has been since the Rigo fight? Either Teo can’t bust a grape or someone is lying to us... when the excitement of seeing Lomachenko not get a decision dies down then you’ll see people going back who watch it saying “Hey, that fight really wasn’t what I remembered..”
As per usual I’m far ahead of everyone here, one of the benefits of knowing boxing and having a mind of my own I guess.

 

[Mexi-Box]

You do realise you didn’t even score the fight right? Of course you don’t. You sat there without a thought of your own, getting excited by missed punches, listening to commentators call an imaginary fight, and then looking to others scorecards to validate the scorecard you copied from the imaginary fight men and compubox who told you exactly what to think.
158 power punches from Teo yet the highlights show half a dozen glancing punches, while Lomachenko has combinations landing clean whenever he punches, with Lomachenko being the least marked up he has been since the Rigo fight? Either Teo can’t bust a grape or someone is lying to us... when the excitement of seeing Lomachenko not get a decision dies down then you’ll see people going back who watch it saying “Hey, that fight really wasn’t what I remembered..”
As per usual I’m far ahead of everyone here, one of the benefits of knowing boxing and having a mind of my own I guess.

I totally predicted you'd make a fool out of yourself. Dude, just stop while you are ahead. You're just digging that hole further and further for yourself.

I can't believe no one has posted your statements after Teo stopped Commey. They were utterly fucking retarded. Like, I don't think I've ever read anything remotely intelligent from you. What were you again, a personal trainer at a run-down gym or a janitor was it...?

 

[Bjj_Boxer]

You do realise you didn’t even score the fight right? Of course you don’t. You sat there without a thought of your own, getting excited by missed punches, listening to commentators call an imaginary fight, and then looking to others scorecards to validate the scorecard you copied from the imaginary fight men and compubox who told you exactly what to think.
158 power punches from Teo yet the highlights show half a dozen glancing punches, while Lomachenko has combinations landing clean whenever he punches, with Lomachenko being the least marked up he has been since the Rigo fight? Either Teo can’t bust a grape or someone is lying to us... when the excitement of seeing Lomachenko not get a decision dies down then you’ll see people going back who watch it saying “Hey, that fight really wasn’t what I remembered..”
As per usual I’m far ahead of everyone here, one of the benefits of knowing boxing and having a mind of my own I guess.

Did I do a round by round? No. I didn't have to for this fight because Loma didn't do shit for the first 6 rounds...and he sure as shit didn't clearly win all rounds from 6-12. So, you're dumb and GTFO

 

[OneTime]

That’s your problem then, you’re a fanboy instead of someone who knows how to score a boxing match.

Yeah I'm a huge lomachenko fanboy and even I thought he got his ass whooped.

Whooped bad.

 

[on the hook]

I totally predicted you'd make a fool out of yourself. Dude, just stop while you are ahead. You're just digging that hole further and further for yourself.

I can't believe no one has posted your statements after Teo stopped Commey. They were utterly fucking retarded. Like, I don't think I've ever read anything remotely intelligent from you. What were you again, a personal trainer at a run-down gym or a janitor was it...?

Too late to stop while he's ahead. He's already gone full 'tard.

 

[REDC]

You do realise you didn’t even score the fight right? Of course you don’t. You sat there without a thought of your own, getting excited by missed punches, listening to commentators call an imaginary fight, and then looking to others scorecards to validate the scorecard you copied from the imaginary fight men and compubox who told you exactly what to think.
158 power punches from Teo yet the highlights show half a dozen glancing punches, while Lomachenko has combinations landing clean whenever he punches, with Lomachenko being the least marked up he has been since the Rigo fight? Either Teo can’t bust a grape or someone is lying to us... when the excitement of seeing Lomachenko not get a decision dies down then you’ll see people going back who watch it saying “Hey, that fight really wasn’t what I remembered..”
As per usual I’m far ahead of everyone here, one of the benefits of knowing boxing and having a mind of my own I guess.

He did look like he went life and death with Pedraza (see pic) but that's because he was able to close the distance easily where he spent a lot of time.
As he said himself he had a hard time closing the distance vs Teo so he didn't get hit with as many (light) punches.
Teo can definitely crack, it's just generally difficult to land powershots flush on Loma. I do agree that Teo missed a lot.

 

[REDC]

You obviously share the same opinions as he does, but you don’t go all the way like he does.

I'm more objective than him, and you.

 

[REDC]

HAHAHA Who am I?.... LOL Who are you?!

Manny Pacquaio won tiels in 8* divisions. Tunned Pro when Loma was 7 years old and was world champion by the time Loma was 10.
Mike Tyson was unified/undisputed heavyweight Champion before Loma was born.
Teddy Atlas was trained the Swedish Olympic team almost a decade before Loma came into the world

Judge Steve Weisfeld has been judging world title fights since 93.

And they all gave the fight to Lopez

Who are you to judge better than them?


Granted everyone can make mistakes... But now because you've got a hard for Loma you know better than everyone else on the matter and also because Loma himself says he won and he has experience the majority of us dont have his word is final and no one else matters...


take yourself to the shed. You're becoming an embarassment

Now now. Pro boxing judges are not exactly known for being the most competent, to put it very mildly. There's a criminal/outrageous decision/score every other week.
In this very fight it was Julie Lederman.

 

[DynamicMoves]

Now now. Pro boxing judges are not exactly known for being the most competent, to put it very mildly. There's a criminal/outrageous decision/score every other week.
In this very fight it was Julie Lederman.

Julie Lederman's card makes more sense than his 8-4 Loma card does.

 

[Zopilote]

I'm more objective than him, and you.

Not when it comes to Loma. You’re on his nuts almost as much as Deal With is.

 

[REDC]

Julie Lederman's card makes more sense than his 8-4 Loma card does.

Well not really considering one is (supposed to be) a competent professional judge and the other a fan judging from his armchair. The former should be held to a much higher standard than the latter (who falls in the opinions-are-like-assholes category).

But, that wasn't my point. Since never have boxing judges been put on a pedestal. Or assumed to become better as their careers mature.
CJ Ross, Adelaide Byrd, Levi Martinez, etc., etc., had all been ''professionally'' judging for TWO or THREE decades before submitting abominations of scorecards.

 

[Pedderrs]

REDC is a low key Loma apologist. Dealt with will outright say that Loma won whereas REDC will just imply that he had one arm for the 12 rounds. More subtle but still there.

 

[paloalto00]

I'd like to see a rematch, Lopez won fair and square but giving away the first 7 rounds just doesn't sit right with me.

Loma is right handed, in his last 5 fights his jab accounts for nearly 50% of his total punches. He throws an average of 31-35 jabs per round, this fight he threw a combined total of 38 jabs from round 1-6. He threw a total of 321 punches with Lopez, the lowest in his entire pro career.

Lopez won fair and square, he's top dog but that version of Loma he fought just doesn't sit right with me.

Links to the compubox stats:
Lopez- https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-compubox-punch-stats--152555
Campbell- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-campbell-compubox-punch-stats--142182
Linares- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-linares-compubox-punch-stats--128110
Crolla- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-crolla-compubox-historical-review--137899
Pedraza- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-pedraza-compubox-punch-stats--134460

 

[Mexi-Box]

I'd like to see a rematch, Lopez won fair and square but giving away the first 7 rounds just doesn't sit right with me.

Loma is right handed, in his last 5 fights his jab accounts for nearly 50% of his total punches. He throws an average of 31-35 jabs per round, this fight he threw a combined total of 38 jabs from round 1-6. He threw a total of 321 punches with Lopez, the lowest in his entire pro career.

Lopez won fair and square, he's top dog but that version of Loma he fought just doesn't sit right with me.

Links to the compubox stats:
Lopez- https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-compubox-punch-stats--152555
Campbell- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-campbell-compubox-punch-stats--142182
Linares- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-linares-compubox-punch-stats--128110
Crolla- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-crolla-compubox-historical-review--137899
Pedraza- https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-vs-pedraza-compubox-punch-stats--134460

There won't be a rematch unless Lomachenko proves himself. Lopez, from what I recall, is pissed that they didn't offer him a rematch clause.

 

[paloalto00]

There won't be a rematch unless Lomachenko proves himself. Lopez, from what I recall, is pissed that they didn't offer him a rematch clause.

Fair enough, and yeah I just read that. I'm hoping it gets done sooner than later

 

[Mexi-Box]

Fair enough, and yeah I just read that. I'm hoping it gets done sooner than later

Well, there are so many good fights still out there. If Lomachenko gets fed a pile of shit from Top Rank and fights Commey, Fortuna, or Ito, he can fuck off ever getting a rematch. Lomachenko needs to fight someone with a name as soon as he's recovered: Ryan Garcia, Haney, or Tank. I don't think Lomachenko is at the age where he can take tune-ups, and I'm sure he knows this in the back of his head. His eyes were red like he was about to cry when they were talking to him post-fight. I can't imagine someone like him knowing how to lose, honestly.

 

[paloalto00]

Well, there are so many good fights still out there. If Lomachenko gets fed a pile of shit from Top Rank and fights Commey, Fortuna, or Ito, he can fuck off ever getting a rematch. Lomachenko needs to fight someone with a name as soon as he's recovered: Ryan Garcia, Haney, or Tank. I don't think Lomachenko is at the age where he can take tune-ups, and I'm sure he knows this in the back of his head. His eyes were red like he was about to cry when they were talking to him post-fight. I can't imagine someone like him knowing how to lose, honestly.

Garcia and Haney are too green, Tank has a punchers chance but I think we're shitting on Loma a little bit too much on this fight

 

[Cableaddict]

Julie Lederman's card makes more sense than his 8-4 Loma card does.

I actually think Julie Lederman got it right. I've watched rounds 8-12 about 4 times, and can still only give Loma 2 rounds, as when I first saw the fight. I think many fans gave him 1-2 extra rounds just because he started doing SOMETHING. - Or to be "nice," or something. Lopez absolutely won the 8th, IMO.

 

[on the hook]

Julie Lederman's card makes more sense than his 8-4 Loma card does.

Loma lost rounds 1-7. He also lost round 12. That's 8 rounds to Lopez straight up. So anyone who scored Lopez by 8 rounds to 4 or more actually watched the fight.