Was Michael Jackson an actual predatory pedophile, or just a really weird, really rich, essentially harmless guy with lots of issues?

Was Michael Jackson a fully-fledged predatory pedophile?

  • Disgusting pedo who should have died in jail

  • I wouldn't have sent my kids to Neverland, but he wasn't proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt

  • I think he was probably just a weird rich guy with a lot of issues about childhood


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steviebruno

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Why was she forced to attack her brother? How did that work?
Lotoya's husband literally beat the hell out of her for years and estranged her from her family. It was his idea to piggyback on the accusations made against her brother in an attempt to sell a fabricated story to the tabloids. When Latoya Jackson was finally free from her husband, she immediately recanted her story.
 
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steviebruno

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Fucking hell, just finished the documentary and it seemed very very convincing. It can never be proven I guess but I think the guy was a fucking peado and seriously mentally ill.

What are the odds that the most famous star in the world who especially in the 80s could literally take his pick of any woman or man on the planet to fuck decides to live a seemingly A sexual life, but has an infatuation with kids so much that he surrounds himself with them constantly, shares he bed with them, lavishes then and their families with gifts, brings them on tour?!

He was a child abuser, and as a life long Jacko fan that’s quite hard for me to accept.
Funny thing is, they've already cut 45 minutes of outright lies from the documentary, so I'm not even sure what version you saw.

The Grammys took place in NY the year 1989, not LA, as Safechuck claimed. Euro Disney didn't open up until 1992, yet Safechuck claims to have vacationed with Jackson there in 1988.

...I guess they forget to edit that out.
 

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No wonder the trial in 2005 was a farce. Real scrapping the barrel stuff with those books.

Michael Jackson literally had a library of tens of thousands of books and the prosecution attempted to use a couple of non-pornographic art books -books that were actually gifts- as evidence against him. That's a bit like calling someone a murderer because they had the Friday the 13th collection... in a cache of thousands of movies, no less.
 
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Funny thing is, they've already cut 45 minutes of outright lies from the documentary, so I'm not even sure what version you saw.

The Grammys took place in NY the year 1989, not LA, as Safechuck claimed. Euro Disney didn't open up until 1992, yet Safechuck claims to have vacationed with Jackson there in 1988.

...I guess they forget to edit that out.
Is that not just focusing on the minutiae of it all though? Some dates and places were wrong when recounting stories from two decades ago. The much bigger issue that’s ignored by people is the FACT he liked to share his bed and personal time with young boys.
 
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Davvers

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I would be interested to see another poll of posters having seen the documentary and then the MJ Innocent video. I'm still 50/50. The fact is there is no conclusive evidence other than tge testimony of several people who realise they stand to make a lot of money from their allegations.
 

steviebruno

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Is that not just focusing on the minutiae of it all though? Some dates and places were wrong when recounting stories from two decades ago. The much bigger issue that’s ignored by people is the FACT he liked to share his bed and personal time with young boys.
But that's just it. If this were an actual courtroom, distortions and inaccuracies like this would cripple a wittness testimony. Now, I know that the court of public opinion has lower standards, but damned if we all can't do better than this.

Yes, Michael Jackson was a weirdo, and if they could put him on trial for that, he'd have been UNDER the jail... but he was charged with systematically raping young boys, for decades, and yet no actual evidence has come forth despite years of quite thorough, tireless, and invasive investigation.
 
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But that's just it. If this were an actual courtroom, distortions and inaccuracies like this would cripple a wittness testimony. Now, I know that the court of public opinion has lower standards, but damned if we all can't do better than this.

Yes, Michael Jackson was a weirdo, and if they could put him on trial for that, he'd have been UNDER the jail... but he was charged with systematically raping young boys, for decades, and yet no actual evidence has come forth despite years of quite thorough, tireless, and invasive investigation.
At the end of the day the evidence was tested and he was found not guilty

 
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It's been a rumour for a while.
Apparently he was chemically castrated when he was younger so his voice never broke and he could maintain his high pitch.
It would also mean that he had little to no testosterone production resulting in a lack of sex drive and a lack of semen production...
But that also destroys the defence that people put up that he wasn’t a paedophile because he fucked his wife on the regular.
 
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Holly has failed at the first hurdle there.

Some actual proper reading here https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/the-wade-robson-allegations/

Especially the parts about “it’s not about the money” Robson constructing an ever changing narrative against the Jackson estate through the years so they become liable for his claims.

Btw retrospectively claiming his bipolar dad actually committed suicide because he “knew”, despite never bringing the subject up anywhere in the family when even his own mother claimed the dad was upset that none of the family cared about what he was going through with regards to his illness shows to me what a special type of cunt this Robson cunt actually is.
 
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Is that not just focusing on the minutiae of it all though? Some dates and places were wrong when recounting stories from two decades ago. The much bigger issue that’s ignored by people is the FACT he liked to share his bed and personal time with young boys.
and tell the parents they had to stay in the guest house, away the fuck over there ... or a hotel suite at the other side of town.

Not suspicious at all ... I watched this documentary and I'm a bit torn on this, the second guy Wade ... not sure about him but the first guy was more believable. I don't know how much they spoke to each other prior but their experiences are so similar that it can only possibly be a result of collusion or that these things did happen ... the cunts who should take a lot of the blame are the dipshit parents who just allowed their sons to stay unsupervised in the company of an absolute crackpot for days at a time.

When they say that no child porn was found at the home, what about regular porn because both of the accusers in this documentary claim that he would show them regular heterosexual porn all the time.