What’s the maximum length the state should reasonably be expected to pay unemployment benefit?

Unemployment benefit should be paid for

  • 0 - Abolish it

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • 1 week

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • 1 month

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • 3 months

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • 6 months

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • 1 year

    Votes: 5 14.7%
  • 2 years

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Indefinitely

    Votes: 16 47.1%

  • Total voters
    34

AntG

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Nov 16, 2012
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They don't take into account peoples situations, they just throw all these shitty jobs at the unemployed, like KP'ing or cleaning etc and expect them to apply for them. I'm self employed at the moment but I wouldn't get out of bed for less than £10 an hour and you've got no chance of me working weekends.
 
Dec 25, 2019
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They don't take into account peoples situations, they just throw all these shitty jobs at the unemployed, like KP'ing or cleaning etc and expect them to apply for them. I'm self employed at the moment but I wouldn't get out of bed for less than £10 an hour and you've got no chance of me working weekends.
What is is you do bud?
 
Dec 25, 2019
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Construction, various types, mainly outdoor work in the summer like building extensions, paving, roofing etc. Then in winter I do stuff like plastering and fitting windows.

Back at work tomorrow!
Same here,first day back after nearly month off.

Im a brickie and im presuming your usual is way above the £10 you said?
 

AntG

Scaredy Bat
Nov 16, 2012
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Same here,first day back after nearly month off.

Im a brickie and im presuming your usual is way above the £10 you said?

Yeah sometimes I try to price myself out of a job if I think it's going to be a bit of a cunt, I mainly subcontract for other companies rather than do my own work.
 
May 25, 2013
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Taxes pay for the unemployment benefit you muppet.

Again, if you will fully refuse to fine work or decline work to stay on benefits that is theft of taxpayers money.
Why am I the muppet? If they only pay unemployment benefits for an equal amount of time as I've spent paying taces, why shouldn't I only pay taxes for an equal amount of time I was receiving unemployment?
 
Dec 25, 2019
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Yeah sometimes I try to price myself out of a job if I think it's going to be a bit of a cunt, I mainly subcontract for other companies rather than do my own work.
Aye,fine to be able to price a job accordingly and get a bonus if accepted.

Im the same as you,subbied to the same 2-3 firms for the last 20 years near enough but our prices start at £22hr for local stuff and goes up for out about work.We have taken a bit of a downturn with the oil drop but luckily in the whole new houses are still getting thrown up.
 

Haggis

CHB World Championship People's Champion
May 16, 2013
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"999 what is your emergency?"

"Id like to report a theft! Sharon hasnt looked hard enough for a job this week"
Wouldn't be the dumbest call taken in any given shift, believe me.

:hat
 
Aug 2, 2013
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Btw, I was on it last year for three months last year and another three month stint around 14 years ago. In the U.S., you only get a little more than half of what you were making before. You're not exactly living high off the hog.
 
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Any decent society should look after it's people. A bit ridiculous to let in streams of migrants and leave them in limbo but not look after it's own. To make it clear, i've no issue with letting in x amount of asylum seekers in a controlled fashion. Not Merkel open border style. But a person should know their's a safety net should shit hit the fan for whatever reason. It's also patently unfair, as others have said, to allow some people who never paid a cent in taxes to receive the same amount as others who have paid a lot.
 
May 21, 2013
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In Aus it's quite savage.
:lol::lol::rofl :violin


While you are in between jobs you are expected to use all your savings until they are spent.
thats what savings are for you dumb cunt.. unless you want millionaires on the dole between contracts. why should i be paying for people with more money than me?? better yet why the fuck should anyone pay for someone capable of paying for themselves full stop??


Then you are on a well below poverty level payment which may be taken away from you for the smallest reasons.
rubbish. if you can be bothered meeting the pitiful obligations they put on you its nearly impossible to get kicked off the dole in australia. even still theyll dock you three times before youre off. if youre too dumb and lazy to avoid that then you dont deserve a cent.

Any income you receive is deducted from the subsistence so there's zero incentive to even work part time.
lies
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/austudy/how-much-you-can-get/personal-income-test

The system is woefully inadequate, even inhumane.
471 dollars a week to do nothing... 700 a week before youre not entitled to payment. , thats before medicare, rent assistance and even more if youve got kids......inhumane. :rofl
cry me a fucking river you entitled baby.
 

thehook13

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May 16, 2013
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:lol::lol::rofl :violin




thats what savings are for you dumb cunt.. unless you want millionaires on the dole between contracts. why should i be paying for people with more money than me?? better yet why the fuck should anyone pay for someone capable of paying for themselves full stop??




rubbish. if you can be bothered meeting the pitiful obligations they put on you its nearly impossible to get kicked off the dole in australia. even still theyll dock you three times before youre off. if youre too dumb and lazy to avoid that then you dont deserve a cent.



lies
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/austudy/how-much-you-can-get/personal-income-test



471 dollars a week to do nothing... 700 a week before youre not entitled to payment. , thats before medicare, rent assistance and even more if youve got kids......inhumane. :rofl
cry me a fucking river you entitled baby.
Wow you are piece of shit on the low end of the social economic scale but we already know that. Not everyone unemployed is bludging right, if you're not in work you should be heading to debt, default on loans? That doesn't make sense also I don't believe in shaming those inbetween work as it's a normal economic condition... :patsch

I proposed we pay into a better nationalised income protection, perfectly sensible and you think it's appropriate to start carrying on with your rhetorical shit about millionaires get paid for nothing? Dole bludgers not deserving a cent? No surprise you're a short sighted, one nation bogan.

You act like it's coming straight out of your bank account but the truth is that I pay my own taxes as well. If anyone pays into a scheme they're entitled to benefit what they've put in. Most schemes in Europe involve a CO payment a percentage of your salary for 1 year minimum and then you're covered for upto 2/3 of your salary. Providing you can demonstrate you're actively looking for work. No need to go into debt, no knives to your throat to accept unwanted job offers. Sounds civil to me
 
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Interesting reading. European unemployment insurance
Not surprised the UK isn't on that list. It wasn't great before but since universal credit came in it's been a disaster for those most vulnerable in our society.

I mean how the fuck does it take 13-14 weeks to process a claim? How do people live for over 3 months with no income while they wait for benefits? I mean how long do Germans, the French or Americans have to wait for unemployment benefits, surely this can't be the norm. I don't recall waiting that long for benefits the one time I claimed for unemployment during the late 90's.

Same with the new PIP benefits for disabled people. It takes 4 months for a PIP claim to be processed, that's 4 months for someone with a disability or a serious illness without an income. Since 2013 when PIP was introduced some 17,070 people with disabilities or a serious illness have died waiting for their PIP claim to be processed. That means there will likely be over 2400 people will die this year waiting for their benefits.

Yet on the flip side they'll stop your benefits at the drop off a hat. My mum has Parkinson's and is on Universal Credit, they stopped her UC benefits in December because she hadn't registered online. She's not computer literate never used a computer in her life, she barely knows how to use her mobile phone and she had her benefits cut because of this. If it's happening to her, it's happening to many other people who through no fault of their own but because the system is rigged to fuck them over at every given opportunity.
 

Hkbrit

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Not surprised the UK isn't on that list. It wasn't great before but since universal credit came in it's been a disaster for those most vulnerable in our society.

I mean how the fuck does it take 13-14 weeks to process a claim? How do people live for over 3 months with no income while they wait for benefits? I mean how long do Germans, the French or Americans have to wait for unemployment benefits, surely this can't be the norm. I don't recall waiting that long for benefits the one time I claimed for unemployment during the late 90's.

Same with the new PIP benefits for disabled people. It takes 4 months for a PIP claim to be processed, that's 4 months for someone with a disability or a serious illness without an income. Since 2013 when PIP was introduced some 17,070 people with disabilities or a serious illness have died waiting for their PIP claim to be processed. That means there will likely be over 2400 people will die this year waiting for their benefits.

Yet on the flip side they'll stop your benefits at the drop off a hat. My mum has Parkinson's and is on Universal Credit, they stopped her UC benefits in December because she hadn't registered online. She's not computer literate never used a computer in her life, she barely knows how to use her mobile phone and she had her benefits cut because of this. If it's happening to her, it's happening to many other people who through no fault of their own but because the system is rigged to fuck them over at every given opportunity.
Similar story when I was living in New Zealand, you have a 13 week "stand down" period during which you can only get given supermarket food vouchers.

After 13 weeks you get given $250 a week plus accommodation supplement which is BARE BONES, and you have to rock up every week with 20 jobs you applied for.

The attitude is even if you are a doctor or lawyer looking for suitable job, if you didn't apply for the job stacking shelves in a supermarket 90 minutes away you can lose your benefit.

The hilarious thing is, the student allowance is more than the unemployment benefit, so many people are just applying to uni and getting that for a year lol.

The government just passed a new bill which requires the staff at the job center to not bully beneficiaries, and be civil to them, so I guess that's nice. My case manager was actually ok, she didn't make me apply for shit jobs because she knew I'd just end up leaving as soon as a better job came up. So I got my two weekly payments then got a job. They did give me about $700 for work clothes and cover the first week before I got paid.
 
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Wow you are piece of shit on the low end of the social economic scale but we already know that. Everyone not employed is bludging right, if you're not in work you should be heading to debt, default on loans? That makes sense... :patsch

I proposed we pay into a better nationalised income protection in the transition between employment, perfectly sensible and you think it's appropriate to carry on with your rhetorical shit about millionaires get paid for nothing? Dole bludgers not deserving a cent? No surprise you're a short sighted, one nation bogan.

You act like it's coming straight out of your bank account but the truth is that I pay my own taxes as well. If anyone pays into a scheme they're entitled to benefit what they've put in. Most schemes in Europe involve a CO payment a percentage of your salary for 1 year minimum and then you're covered for upto 2/3 of your salary. Providing you can demonstrate you're actively looking for work. No going into debt, no knives to your throat to accept unwanted job offers. Sounds civil to me
christ on a bike youre a fucking idiot.. thank god above you have no say in public policy