Which life is better: UK v USA

Jun 5, 2013
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UK Pro's

- On average a minimum of 20 days holiday including bank holidays.
- Just 2 hours cheap flights away too so many great countries like Italy, Spain, Germany, Eastern Europe, etc
- Work life balance is better then alot of countries. Average working hours is 40-42 a week
- One of the most unique and best countryside's in the world with our great pubs.
- So much history and great historic towns like York, Bath, Oxford, etc
- Climate is not too hot and not too cold
- Pretty safe country other then parts of London and other major Cities. In general much safer then the vast majority of countries
- Transportation in the UK is pretty good with a UK wide rail network.

UK Cons
- Life in the UK is pretty dull. After work most people just go home and watch TV due to the early dark nights and lack of sunshine.
- Cost of living is pretty expensive especially housing and petrol
- Most of the UK is an absolute depressing shite hole and most people from the UK don't go on holiday in the UK
- A large majority of the people are uneducated chavs

US Pros

- So much variety to see and do in the US. From New York, to Vegas to Texas
- Climate is warmer so after work can head for the beach or go for a BBQ
- Cost of living such as housing and petrol is cheaper then the UK
- People in the US are much friendlier and pleasant then the UK and Europe

US cons
- Average working week is 47 hours
- Only 10 days holiday a year on average
- Long distance from anywhere to go abroad
- More chance of being murdered then the UK
 
May 16, 2013
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UK Pro's

- On average a minimum of 20 days holiday including bank holidays.
- Just 2 hours cheap flights away too so many great countries like Italy, Spain, Germany, Eastern Europe, etc
- Work life balance is better then alot of countries. Average working hours is 40-42 a week
- One of the most unique and best countryside's in the world with our great pubs.
- So much history and great historic towns like York, Bath, Oxford, etc
- Climate is not too hot and not too cold
- Pretty safe country other then parts of London and other major Cities. In general much safer then the vast majority of countries
- Transportation in the UK is pretty good with a UK wide rail network.

UK Cons
- Life in the UK is pretty dull. After work most people just go home and watch TV due to the early dark nights and lack of sunshine.
- Cost of living is pretty expensive especially housing and petrol
- Most of the UK is an absolute depressing shite hole and most people from the UK don't go on holiday in the UK
- A large majority of the people are uneducated chavs

US Pros

- So much variety to see and do in the US. From New York, to Vegas to Texas
- Climate is warmer so after work can head for the beach or go for a BBQ
- Cost of living such as housing and petrol is cheaper then the UK
- People in the US are much friendlier and pleasant then the UK and Europe

US cons
- Average working week is 47 hours
- Only 10 days holiday a year on average
- Long distance from anywhere to go abroad
- More chance of being murdered then the UK
It's a difficult comparison. The US is so large and diverse you'd be better comparing to a single state.

I can only really compare to life in Florida but the quality of life is, like you say, better from an outdoors persepctive. I spend all weekend outdoors and at least 1-3 hours after work, depending on the time of year. The cost of living isn't that different, actually. Although things like petrol is much cheaper things like food are more expensive so it kinda blanaces out.

The so called UK is definitely more advanced than Florida/US though. Florida is quite backwards in many regards. Even basic shit like writing cheques, no real use of chip and pin/contactless. The so called UK still has a people first attitude, although less than it used to be whereas the US puts corporations first. This country is entirely based on getting as much money from the average Joe as possible.

I know it's a stereotype but the average American is less sophisticated than your average European. I base this on attitudes towards religion, guns, how easily influenced by marketing they are, their attitude towards the military, patriotism and any number of other things they seem simply brainwashed into their behaviours.
Take the whole 'We're the greatest country on Earth' nonsense. They genuinely believe this. Awful workers rights, most expensive healthcare in the world, terrible 2 party state, terrible consumer rights, school children getting massacred and literally nothing done about it...the country is farcical in many regards.

But a lot of the so called UK is a dreary depressing shithole and if you live in one of the nicer parts you're often too remote from civilization, like transport, broadband, etc.

If this was a comparison to somewhere up north that doesn't have the weather then so called UK wins.

If it's a comparison between a non Bible belt state with great climate AND you have money then America wins easily.

There's a lot to consider.
 
Jun 4, 2012
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UK Pro's

- On average a minimum of 20 days holiday including bank holidays.
It's a minimum of 28 days holiday including bank holidays. So they can make up 8 of those days as the bank holidays, but then you must have 20 days of paid leave for personal use. If a company is offering 20 days including the bank holidays as part of that 20...they're breaking the law.
 
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Really need to focus on a specific area of the US to make a fair comparison. Life in NYC would be more similar to life in London than life in Oklahoma.

It probably comes down to money. Better to be rich in the US and poor in the UK. The UK takes some bonus points for geographical location for me, but that’s just personal preference.
 
Jul 17, 2012
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sunshine and good tea? ko1


tbh i used to want to end up in america, but that waned and i can't really say why. but i'm def leaving here once money and familly allow me to.
 
May 16, 2013
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sunshine and good tea? ko1


tbh i used to want to end up in america, but that waned and i can't really say why. but i'm def leaving here once money and familly allow me to.
Leave where?

Consider Australia (assuming you're looking for an English speaking country). Probably not Canada as the weather can be shit.

If you do pursue America then assess certain states. I was torn between Florida and Texas. They have no income tax in those states which is pretty fuckin' amazing, tbh.
 
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May 19, 2013
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Leave where?

Consider Australia (assuming you're looking for an English speaking country). Probably not Canada as the weather can be shit.

If you do pursue America then assess certain states. I was torn between Florida and Texas. They have no income tax in those states which is pretty fuckin' amazing, tbh.
No income tax in Texas and Florida? Really?
 
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It's a difficult comparison. The US is so large and diverse you'd be better comparing to a single state.

I can only really compare to life in Florida but the quality of life is, like you say, better from an outdoors persepctive. I spend all weekend outdoors and at least 1-3 hours after work, depending on the time of year. The cost of living isn't that different, actually. Although things like petrol is much cheaper things like food are more expensive so it kinda blanaces out.

The so called UK is definitely more advanced than Florida/US though. Florida is quite backwards in many regards. Even basic shit like writing cheques, no real use of chip and pin/contactless. The so called UK still has a people first attitude, although less than it used to be whereas the US puts corporations first. This country is entirely based on getting as much money from the average Joe as possible.

I know it's a stereotype but the average American is less sophisticated than your average European. I base this on attitudes towards religion, guns, how easily influenced by marketing they are, their attitude towards the military, patriotism and any number of other things they seem simply brainwashed into their behaviours.
Take the whole 'We're the greatest country on Earth' nonsense. They genuinely believe this. Awful workers rights, most expensive healthcare in the world, terrible 2 party state, terrible consumer rights, school children getting massacred and literally nothing done about it...the country is farcical in many regards.

But a lot of the so called UK is a dreary depressing shithole and if you live in one of the nicer parts you're often too remote from civilization, like transport, broadband, etc.

If this was a comparison to somewhere up north that doesn't have the weather then so called UK wins.

If it's a comparison between a non Bible belt state with great climate AND you have money then America wins easily.

There's a lot to consider.
New England is kind of the same as UK, with better food. A lot of those views you’re talking about belong to people in the South. Healthcare is actually trickier than it seems on the surface. Healthcare is better in the US than UK for people over 65 who have Medicare or better yet, Medicare and Medicaid. Healthcare in the U.K. factors into higher taxes. Due to military costs and some other things, part of US taxes unfortunately go down the drain in the terms of increasing standard of living.
 
Jul 17, 2012
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Leave where?

Consider Australia (assuming you're looking for an English speaking country). Probably not Canada as the weather can be shit.

If you do pursue America then assess certain states. I was torn between Florida and Texas. They have no income tax in those states which is pretty fuckin' amazing, tbh.
england/britain.

no rush tho. if i come across a good job abroad i'll go after it hard, but london is a pretty good place to make money and it's not so expensive when you're from here.

tbh when i say america i only really mean florida. i know texas has shoreline and some variety, but i don't know too much about it.

edit - never answered the question. i got some friends in oz but portugal or south of france will do fine.
 
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May 16, 2013
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No income tax in Texas and Florida? Really?
Yep, my terminology may be off but no state income tax. You still get federal taxes and you also have a sales tax here (add 7% or whatever at the till) but no income tax. Saves maybe 10%-20% overall. Varies, obviously.
 
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Jun 4, 2013
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This is a tough one. On the surface I'd easily say America. But there's so much random shit there designed to suck any and all wealth from you I wouldn't trust the country.....

Property taxes. Healthcare. Lack of a suitable welfare state. Both countries now require decent jobs to even survive so I don't know.

Good thing about America is you can always live in a trailer park. And motels seem cheap. Ish? Probably being stereotypical there.

I'll take option 3: Canada or Australia instead any day.
 
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This is a tough one. On the surface I'd easily say America. But there's so much random shit there designed to suck any and all wealth from you I wouldn't trust the country.....
Really good point, man.

Take the tipping culture, for example. Purely driven by corporations. YOU pay our employees so that WE don't have to. That's what the tipping system is designed for, to remove the burden of paying a fair wage from Businesses.

This is kinda what I meant about Amercians being brainwashed easily. Look at their attitude towards the military. The ridiculous amount of faux respect. The constant 'thank you for your service' bullshit. Government driven to ensure a steady stream of young gullible cannon fodder.

Property taxes. Healthcare. Lack of a suitable welfare state. Both countries now require decent jobs to even survive so I don't know.

Good thing about America is you can always live in a trailer park. And motels seem cheap. Ish? Probably being stereotypical there.

I'll take option 3: Canada or Australia instead any day.
Property taxes are pretty steep but it's instead of council tax and there's no stamp duty tax here either, tbf. It is more expensive but you can then deduct them from your yearly tax assessment so I'd say the difference isn't significant, although it'll obviously vary.

Healthcare is shameful here though. The very notion of relating your health to your finances is revolting. Even more so from a first world country that prides itself as the GOAT (see brainwashing point above).