Who are some athletes 22 years old or younger who you are calling to be future ATGs, HOFers?

Jul 29, 2012
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I agreed he's not the next LeBron, but he's the most exciting prospect I've seen in quite some time. Barrett is not as good in that regard. Not as an NBA prospect. Not in terms of his ceiling.
Well, personally I disagree. Zion is probably the most exciting prospect since I have been following NBA because of his insane dunks - and again he's not just a dunker so Im not saying that - but Barrett has an extremely well developed game for his age and a ton of international experience. They are actually similar prospects in some respects, both quality at getting to the rim with question marks over there jumpshots. Barrett has the better handle (though zions is quality for a guy his size), though Zion has the better passing game from what i have seen. Barrett is also a bit trickier getting to the rim in terms of his body control imo, eurostep moves etc.. Though zion us obviously great too, especially with that insane hop step he does. Barrett also has good international experience going up against grown men. End of the day it's close imo, I'd probably still take zion #1 because of his athleticism and thus his upside, but he's not a guaranteed ATG prospect.


The top try scorer in 6N history is Irish. But it's not Stockdale.

He's not close.
um yes, in a single six nations tournament stockdale is the record scorer. So, yeah he is more than close. In fact I was wrong, it's not joint, he actually beat the record in the england game with 7 tries.
 
Jun 6, 2012
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um yes, in a single six nations tournament stockdale is the record scorer. So, yeah he is more than close. In fact I was wrong, it's not joint, he actually beat the record in the england game with 7 tries.
Did you mention a single season, or did you say (and I quote) 'joint record try scorer in six nation history'?
 
May 19, 2013
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This’ll be different. I’m 95% convinced.
Hmmm.. Until I see him give and take punches and kicks, I'm not convinced.

Remember he's a big fucking dude, he'll be in there with big hitters who can clean his clock with 1 punch. He better hope he can mix it up in the stand-up.
 
May 31, 2012
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Hmmm.. Until I see him give and take punches and kicks, I'm not convinced.

Remember he's a big fucking dude, he'll be in there with big hitters who can clean his clock with 1 punch. He better hope he can mix it up in the stand-up.

I don’t think he’ll compete until his stand-up is decent. Garry Tonon’s done exactly the same thing and he won his 2nd or 3rd fight by TKO. This is the same team/coach that trained GSP, and Gordon’s been doing a bit with Rockhold as well. I don’t think they’d let him attempt MMA without being good all-round.

His wrestling is legit now, his no-gi BJJ is in the top 3 in the world (arguably the best, I’d just like to see him beat Pena), and the amount of hours he puts in is ridiculous.
 
May 19, 2013
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I don’t think he’ll compete until his stand-up is decent. Garry Tonon’s done exactly the same thing and he won his 2nd or 3rd fight by TKO. This is the same team/coach that trained GSP, and Gordon’s been doing a bit with Rockhold as well. I don’t think they’d let him attempt MMA without being good all-round.

His wrestling is legit now, his no-gi BJJ is in the top 3 in the world (arguably the best, I’d just like to see him beat Pena), and the amount of hours he puts in is ridiculous.
All true.

He's a bit of an oddball though :rofl
 
Jun 4, 2012
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Zion won't be the next LeBron. Their games simply aren't very similar. He could very well be the next Charles Barkley, though. A more athletic version at that. People complaining about a 19 year old still having fundamental flaws are laughable. He's a work horse with a good head on his shoulders and more than enough time to iron those deficiencies (namely his shooting skills) out. What can't be taught are his physical gifts, which are pretty much unparalleled in the history of basketball.

Ryan Garcia isn't even that good a prospect, in my opinion. Average, run of the mill hype job type that I've seen exposed a million times. If he wasn't handsome and charismatic, nobody would care.
Agree on Garcia. Very upright, think his power is good, but not special and I think he will struggle with any good inside fighter.