Who is going to be the Democrat nominee in 2020?

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For me the election is going to come down to who is running against Trump. Some I will vote over Trump, Some I will vote Trump over and some I would go 3rd party...There are candidates I like more than Trump, Candidates I hate more than Trump and some as of know I could live with them or Trump and wouldn't care either way which one wins..

Trump vs. Tulsi - Vote Tulsi
Trump vs. Yang - Vote Yang
Trump Vs. Bernie- I'll tell you what....If this guy can some how become the candidate at 80 years old with heart problems then fuck it he deserves a vote at that point, ill give him a shot. Vote Bernie
Trump vs. Warren - Vote Trump
Trump vs. Biden - Vote Gary Johnson
Trump vs. Buttkreig - Vote Gary Johnson
Trump vs. Harris - Vote TRUMP X10 (I swear if she is picked as a VP I'm going Trump by default no matter who it is)
Trump Vs. Booker - Vote Trump
Trump Vs. Castro - Vote Trump
Trump vs. Klobucher - Vote Gary Johnson
Trump vs. Styer - Fuck this douche - Vote Trump all the way
 

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Bernie and Warren's policies and priorities are at least 80% identical. If either of them wasn't running, they would be endorsing the other.
No.
Why WOULD YOU VOTE TRUMP? Like a child throwing a tantrum? What part of his administration and legislative priorities would you be voting for?

And what's your beef with Kamala Harris? I don't like her either, but since you HATE her - what is it about her that you loathe so much, that Trump and his administration don't also display?

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Haggis, I am going to try and explain myself the best I can so you can understand Me and where I am coming from, all I can ask is that you respect my opinion in the end and I promise I will always do the same for you.

Here we go... I got into Politics at age 16...It started from my math tutor who was a douche bag libtard who rather than teaching me math would instead spend the whole session telling me about how Evil George Bush was. I started to buy into it. I would go home watch Keith Olberman and MSNBC and declared myslef a democrat. 04 was the first election I voted in and went for John Kerry... For the next six years i continued bitching about Bush and the republicans...Voted Dems for the 06 midterms and Then Obama in 08. I Paid very close attention to what Obama was saying and being the smooth talker he was I believed every word he said. After he was elected I started to notice he wasn't doing the things he said he would do...He didn't bring the troops home, didn't cut the debt and also continued the patriot act....When I would bring these things up to other Democrat voters they would aggressively start calling me a racist or a tea party member ect... That turned me off a bit. In 2009 I bought my first gun and enjoyed target shooting as a hobby..now I was around a lot more republicans, constantly I would hear how Dems are coming for our guns and hate the constitution ect ect... Like my with my Teacher back in High School I started to buy into it....Before I knew it I was now calling myself a republican and was watching fox news all the time....I voted the Republicans in the '10 midterms and Romney in '12.

Now here is where things started to change....By my late 20's when I started to get a bit older and smarter I started to notice more just how full of shit these 2 parties were. Deep down I knew I was Pro 2nd Amdendment but also Not in favor of outlawing abortion. I want single working mothers to get the help they need but at the same time don't want 1/3 of my paycheck going to some lazy shit who sits on a couch all day. I think global warming needs to be addressed but it's not as serious as some of the left make it out to be. I believe there are bad police and good police... some shooting are justified and some are not.....basically as you can see I pretty much realized there is no middle ground between these two parties....
SO for the past few years I was now a Libertarian ( I did however get a kick out of how nuts SJWS would get and often troll them by acting as a Total stereotypical republican for the years of 2013-2017...Obviously I have knocked that off now).... But then again, will this party ever win? Probably not, and if they do..Who is to say they will just turn out to be scum just like the Dems and Repubs....

Now in my life I just flat out don't give a fuck. Politics are all bullshit to me...Nothing feels different from Trump then when Obama was in office to when Bush was in office to Back when Clinton was in office. The country still runs. The media is completely out of control, the majority of people are just flat out stupid and addicted to their phones and social media. Honestly at this point I could give a fuck less about policies because it seems none of these candidates actually pass anything or do anything they say... The whole government is a complete clusterfuck full of adults acting like children.

Why vote Trump? He is funny. He is entertaining, he makes obnoxious Far lefties lose their minds which is even funnier. He is with the republican party so a few of their policies I agree with... and can live with. It is what it is. Tulsi and yang are both cool, Bernie reminds me of a jewish grandpa he is harmless, cant hate the guy, Warren looks like she works at Gay and lesbian book store and annoys the fuck out of me... Harris is fake as fake, she is a whore, talks in different dialects around certain people, goes on hip hop radios and tries to sound cool by saying she smokes weed, there is nothing funny about her like there is with Trump. It is what it is.

Basically haggis, I just don't care anymore, politics are all make believe to me, nothing more than a giant reality show and it seems no matter who is in office the country is going to run like it always does. I am going through a weird time in my life, My girlfriend I was with for 6 years who I thought I was going to marry and have a family with randomly left me back in July because she didn't want to grow up a felt she wants to continue partying and wasn't ready to get serious...I was in the process of buying a house and getting everything ready for the future and she fucked it all up....My job is very stressful, I work almost 70 hours a week, manage a staff of over 50 people (75% of them annoying Millennials) and work directly with over 90 elderly people who are sick and dying (I am a Dietician/Dietary manager). I am seeing the world in a weird way right now and fuck ...maybe I am just crazy but this is where I stand at the moment and how I view things. Since you like to write long posts I hope you dont mind this one I wrote for you.
 
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Haggis, I am going to try and explain myself the best I can so you can understand Me and where I am coming from, all I can ask is that you respect my opinion in the end and I promise I will always do the same for you.

Here we go... I got into Politics at age 16...It started from my math tutor who was a douche bag libtard who rather than teaching me math would instead spend the whole session telling me about how Evil George Bush was. I started to buy into it. I would go home watch Keith Olberman and MSNBC and declared myslef a democrat. 04 was the first election I voted in and went for John Kerry... For the next six years i continued bitching about Bush and the republicans...Voted Dems for the 06 midterms and Then Obama in 08. I Paid very close attention to what Obama was saying and being the smooth talker he was I believed every word he said. After he was elected I started to notice he wasn't doing the things he said he would do...He didn't bring the troops home, didn't cut the debt and also continued the patriot act....When I would bring these things up to other Democrat voters they would aggressively start calling me a racist or a tea party member ect... That turned me off a bit. In 2009 I bought my first gun and enjoyed target shooting as a hobby..now I was around a lot more republicans, constantly I would hear how Dems are coming for our guns and hate the constitution ect ect... Like my with my Teacher back in High School I started to buy into it....Before I knew it I was now calling myself a republican and was watching fox news all the time....I voted the Republicans in the '10 midterms and Romney in '12.

Now here is where things started to change....By my late 20's when I started to get a bit older and smarter I started to notice more just how full of shit these 2 parties were. Deep down I knew I was Pro 2nd Amdendment but also Not in favor of outlawing abortion. I want single working mothers to get the help they need but at the same time don't want 1/3 of my paycheck going to some lazy shit who sits on a couch all day. I think global warming needs to be addressed but it's not as serious as some of the left make it out to be. I believe there are bad police and good police... some shooting are justified and some are not.....basically as you can see I pretty much realized there is no middle ground between these two parties....
SO for the past few years I was now a Libertarian ( I did however get a kick out of how nuts SJWS would get and often troll them by acting as a Total stereotypical republican for the years of 2013-2017...Obviously I have knocked that off now).... But then again, will this party ever win? Probably not, and if they do..Who is to say they will just turn out to be scum just like the Dems and Repubs....

Now in my life I just flat out don't give a fuck. Politics are all bullshit to me...Nothing feels different from Trump then when Obama was in office to when Bush was in office to Back when Clinton was in office. The country still runs. The media is completely out of control, the majority of people are just flat out stupid and addicted to their phones and social media. Honestly at this point I could give a fuck less about policies because it seems none of these candidates actually pass anything or do anything they say... The whole government is a complete clusterfuck full of adults acting like children.

Why vote Trump? He is funny. He is entertaining, he makes obnoxious Far lefties lose their minds which is even funnier. He is with the republican party so a few of their policies I agree with... and can live with. It is what it is. Tulsi and yang are both cool, Bernie reminds me of a jewish grandpa he is harmless, cant hate the guy, Warren looks like she works at Gay and lesbian book store and annoys the fuck out of me... Harris is fake as fake, she is a whore, talks in different dialects around certain people, goes on hip hop radios and tries to sound cool by saying she smokes weed, there is nothing funny about her like there is with Trump. It is what it is.

Basically haggis, I just don't care anymore, politics are all make believe to me, nothing more than a giant reality show and it seems no matter who is in office the country is going to run like it always does. I am going through a weird time in my life, My girlfriend I was with for 6 years who I thought I was going to marry and have a family with randomly left me back in July because she didn't want to grow up a felt she wants to continue partying and wasn't ready to get serious...I was in the process of buying a house and getting everything ready for the future and she fucked it all up....My job is very stressful, I work almost 70 hours a week, manage a staff of over 50 people (75% of them annoying Millennials) and work directly with over 90 elderly people who are sick and dying (I am a Dietician/Dietary manager). I am seeing the world in a weird way right now and fuck ...maybe I am just crazy but this is where I stand at the moment and how I view things. Since you like to write long posts I hope you dont mind this one I wrote for you.
You need to free your mind brother




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Obama was a shit head centrist ivory tower pansy who betrayed the movement, doesnt mean the villain from Robocop is the answer.
 
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It blows my mind how many people flat out refuse to even acknowledge that it's an issue that Sanders is SEVENTY EIGHT YEARS OLD AND JUST HAD A FUCKING HEART ATTACK ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

As a voter, I don't want someone in his 80s leading NZ, let alone the USA. You're all in on a fucking 80 year old without even knowing who his VP is or even if he plans to serve two terms or not? That's crazy to me. Bernie who is still recovering from a heart attack, will be older on Inauguration Day than any POTUS has been on any day in office, ever. Including the two who are suspected of suffering from dementia during their terms.

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Bernie's VP choice will very likely be Nina Turner.

Still want to reply to your earlier points, but kinda busy right now.
 

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Kentucky governership goes to a moderate Democrat in an upset.

Trump was in Kentucky for a rally 12 hours before the polls opened, begging his followers to turn out for him.

“If you lose, they will say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the world,” said Trump, pointing at a bank of news cameras. “You can’t let that happen to me, and you can’t let that happen to your incredible state.”

The next day, he did in fact suffer the greatest defeat in the history of the world.


Another heartland statewide Dem win from the moderate wing of the party. :think1

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Who's the Dem front runner now?
I haven't been following any of this shit, can one of you cunts just summarize in one sentence? Is Bernie still in there?
 

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I'd rather nominate someone who we can be confident won't croak in office during the first term. Does Sander's VP choice not even matter anything to you? If he was to nominate one of the Squad who is all-in for him, does that affect anything?

The Republic is on shaky legs. It's tottering. This moron you have collectively voted into office is a real danger to the stability of your society, in a way that no politician we've ever seen before has been. What if Trump loses a close one and won't accept the result? Is that unthinkable, off the table? Clearly it is not. How would Bernie handle that? We've seen him fold immediately and bow down when confronted, both by the BLM protestors who he allowed to take over his own rally, and then by Hillary who openly fucked him in front of the world and then got his endorsement. How does this 80 year old react when the election gets really ugly? I like Sanders, but I can't see how this 80 year old socialist Jew with the platform "free everything for everybody and everybody's taxes are going up but it still won't be enough to pay for it all", is this invincible electoral juggernaut. :conf

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There's a lot of crap in there, man.

First the assumption that he'll die.

Second, can 'a member of the squad' even be VP? I thought they were all too young. Regardless, I quite like them. I admire their idealism.

Thirdly, Bernie hasn't folded in a debate.

Fourthly, the endorsement of Hillary is meaningless. What was he supposed to do? Not backing her would've been a boon to Trump. I don't think he should've but it's not something I care about.

Fifth, Trump not accepting the result? What the fuck can he do, really, if he loses?

Sixth, "free everything for everybody and everybody's taxes are going up but it still won't be enough to pay for it all" isn't accurate at all.

Seventh, no one is calling him an invincible electoral juggernaut.
 

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Who's the Dem front runner now?
I haven't been following any of this shit, can one of you cunts just summarize in one sentence? Is Bernie still in there?
Biden is still the nominal front runner. Warren is the favorite in the medias eyes. Bernie is a close third and is polling strong.

We wont really know until the first couple primaries
 
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I don't have too much of a problem with Biden, I am sick of the establishment obviously but we would know what we are getting. I don't have a problem with Bernie and I was rooting for him to beat Hillary in '16, but he lost me a bit after that election. Warren...forget about it, can't stand her.

Is it really pretty much a given that it will come down to these 3? Of everybody else....I Love Tulsi, Yang seems like a nice guy and is growing on me, Buttkreig doent seem too terrible to me surprisingly there are some things I like about him.... Booker is a fucking joke and I absolutely hate Kamala the whore Harris with a passion (If any of those 3 picks her as their VP (especially with their age) I WILL VOTE TRUMP), Glad Beto dropped out, he was fucking pathetic.
I hope it’s not just coming down to those 3 but the polls generally show the 3 of them battling at the top.
 
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Biden is still the nominal front runner. Warren is the favorite in the medias eyes. Bernie is a close third and is polling strong.

We wont really know until the first couple primaries
Ah damn... Bidens got that fucking face that just looks dishonest.....I hope they don't screw over Sanders again, but they probably will anyway.
 

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Biden is still the nominal front runner. Warren is the favorite in the medias eyes. Bernie is a close third and is polling strong.

We wont really know until the first couple primaries
I think polls are useless at this point when you consider how wrong they've been over the last few years. I wouldn't be shocked if they were a complete fabrication to try and make it look one sided, just like Hillary, Trump, Brexit etc.. The media want Biden so would anyone be shocked if he was below Sanders but they just outright lie to create this impression that Bernie isn't worth backing?
 

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I think polls are useless at this point when you consider how wrong they've been over the last few years. I wouldn't be shocked if they were a complete fabrication to try and make it look one sided, just like Hillary, Trump, Brexit etc.. The media want Biden so would anyone be shocked if he was below Sanders but they just outright lie to create this impression that Bernie isn't worth backing?
Jesus Christ....... they are not going to just make up numbers out of thin air, ffs.

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I think polls are useless at this point when you consider how wrong they've been over the last few years. I wouldn't be shocked if they were a complete fabrication to try and make it look one sided, just like Hillary, Trump, Brexit etc.. The media want Biden so would anyone be shocked if he was below Sanders but they just outright lie to create this impression that Bernie isn't worth backing?
Would I be shocked if there was a mass conspiracy between the DNC, EVERY polling company and media outlets to undermine Sanders at this point?

Aye.

I would be shocked.
 

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Would I be shocked if there was a mass conspiracy between the DNC, EVERY polling company and media outlets to undermine Sanders at this point?

Aye.

I would be shocked.
CNN made their own poll disappear after the first 2016 debate when they declared Hillary the clear winner then found their own poll go 97% to Sanders.
 
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Haggis

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CNN made their own poll disappear after the first 2016 debate when they declared Hillary the clear winner then found their own poll go 97% to Sanders.
Yeah, one, that is not an official poll, it's a TV show graphic. Do you even know if it was from people calling/texting in, or from CNN calling out? Because if it's from people calling/texting in, then it's absolutely worthless in terms of being anything close to an accurate gauge of public opinion.

Two, that is clearly not a genuine result. So why should they run it like it hasn't been manipulated? Ninety-seven percent of people don't agree on anything, let alone who won a political debate. You can ask "what do you prefer to eat, a bowl of cold icecream or a bowl of warm shit?" and it will come out 92% icecream, 3% warm shit, and 5% undecided/no opinion. So why run with the audience poll if it's clearly been hijacked? It's like those ridiculous Iowa straw polls that Ron Paul fans used to quote to show that he actually had 86% support instead of 3%, and that this showed that he was secretly the most popular and revered man in America.

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So?

Some random website poll is not the same as a legitimate polling company.
Yea cause those polling companies are real legitimate...give me a break...They cold call people and the only ones who pick up are old people who still have landlines and haven't learned to ignore spam calls and have time to sit around the house all day and talk to some random jackass on the phone. The people who answer these calls are the same morons who withdraw thousands of dollars from their bank because they belive "Bob Green" with the heavy Indian accent is actually from the IRS and is sending the cops to arrest them.
 
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Haggis

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Yea cause those polling companies are real legitimate...give me a break...They cold call people and the only ones who pick up are old people who still have landlines and haven't learned to ignore spam calls and have time to sit around the house all day and talk to some random jackass on the phone.
That is true as well.

But "who do you intend to vote for?" phone questions are still better than call-in/text-in audience polls. And c'mon man, no legit poll ever comes out 97-3 in a two horse race without a lot of interference. That's very clear, surely?

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I've not paid too much attention to what's going on but I have always liked Bernie but I fear he's too old and too radical for those in charge but Gabbard would be a decent pick.

Anyone but Hillary, I mean Joe B.