Who is history's all-time greatest military leader?

Duo

Bosomus Maximus
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alexander never lost a battle but against him is the fact that his army was so much more professional then his opponents.
Also Alexander was a bit of a one trick pony.
Always the hammer (companion cavalry) and the anvil (the phalanx) tactic.
Don't forget Tyre, no longer an island after Alexander got through with it...:



 

Johnstown

Dominant Poster
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They, astounded at the flash of the armor, and the swiftness of the charge, and attacked by showers of arrows and missiles, half naked as they were, never stopped to resist but gave way. Some were killed in flight; others were captured; but some escaped into the hills.

[24.9] Those captured were hairy, not only their heads but the rest of their bodies; their nails were rather like beasts' claws; they used their nails (according to report) as if they were iron tools; with these they tore asunder their fishes, and even the less solid kinds of wood; everything else they cleft with sharp stones; for iron they did not possess. For clothing they wore skins of animals, some even the thick skins of the larger fishes.
 
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tahiti
Don't forget Tyre, no longer an island after Alexander got through with it...:



yes great achievement

thing is with Alexander though that his army was much more professional and better equipped then the Persians also at both ISsos and gaugamela he got extremely lucky if Darius did not loose his nerves and did not flee causing half the Persian army to flee with him then the outcome would have been much different me thinks

Fact remains ofcourse that he never lost a battle..

but like I said if hypothetically Alex and Hannibal faced eachother i favor Hannibal. He would outwit Alex. And he would never be so dumb as to fight the Macedonians in suitable terrain for their phalanx..
 
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I'd sure like to know exactly what that Greek Fire formula and delivery system was which preserved the Byzantine Empire for a millennium.
prob some form of petroleum mixed with other stuff...

it helped but I do not believe the Greek fire was their main savior.

I think the Byzantine empire went down because of a few things..

firstly : the revolts and infighting many times throughout its existence.

secondly I see 2 major things causing their destruction.
1 the constant fighting with the Persians with no gains of importance. Exhausting them and allowing Arabs/Islam to rise.. wich results in loosing Egypt...
The breadbasket of the empire (from even way back in the Roman days)
2 loosing Asia Minor to the turks... a huge part of their soldiers came from Asia Minor.
After this last loss the empire entered its deathbed it took quite some time but after loosing Asia minir for me the empire could no more sustain or recover
 
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SwollenGoat

Deicide
May 17, 2013
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The House that Peterbilt
prob some form of petroleum mixed with other stuff...

it helped but I do not believe the Greek fire was their main savior.

I think the Byzantine empire went down because of a few things..

firstly : the revolts and infighting many times throughout its existence.

secondly I see 2 major things causing their destruction.
1 the constant fighting with the Persians with no gains of importance. Exhausting them and allowing Arabs/Islam to rise.. wich results in loosing Egypt...
The breadbasket of the empire (from even way back in the Roman days)
2 loosing Asia Minor to the turks... a huge part of their soldiers came from Asia Minor.
After this last loss the empire entered its deathbed it took quite some time but after loosing Asia minir for me the empire could no more sustain or recover
we shoulda greek fired Berlin
 

Ernest Shackleton

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How the fuck Napoleon is even this discussion. He took a million and half men To Russia and returned with about 200,000 one of the biggest disasters ever.
 
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Ernest Shackleton

Moderate Assadist
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you judge a person on this alone ??
He should be judged over the total of all his battles
The man was a military genius
100% this was the biggest army he ever put together and he fucked it.
And when he faced half decent generals like Wellington and Boucher at Waterloo and Leipzig he lost.