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I actually agree. Calzaghe would have mugged froch off if they fought but I still think froch has the more impressive resume.
I feel exactly the same, ability wise Calzaghe is the better fighter, probably nicer person too.

Opposition wise Compared to him Froch fought a murders row of fighters....Should get greater credit but he is dislikable so hard to feel sorry for him.
 
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Massively over rated based on the limenuex win, he's living off it. He doesn't show up more than he shows up, he arguably lost a fight at the leisure center against a nobody, got wobbled in his first fight at 168, struggled in his last fight till he got the stoppage, had nothing in the tank after 6 rounds with eubank and arguably lost the next 6. I really hope they put him in with canelo and then everyone will see he's not at that level. His most impressive win came with a failed drugs test too didn't it?
I'm in full agreement that he doesn't 'turn up' often enough, and it's difficult to argue with your observations becuase of how he does show up . When he does though, he shows signs of brilliance others can't attain. I'll pick him over Callum Smith no qualms if that's made.
 
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Kell Brook was the most talented British Fighter of his generation and
Could have been the first British fighter to win titles in 4 weight divisions. From Welterweight to Super Middleweight.
 
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Kell Brook was the most talented British Fighter of his generation and
Could have been the first British fighter to win titles in 4 weight divisions. From Welterweight to Super Middleweight.
Welterweigh to heavyweight.
 

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A prime Frank Bruno whoops AJ everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.
Unpopular with me but not on this forum they love any AJ bashing.

Personally I don't think Bruno was ever a top tier fighter, he was a good tier 2 guy but his name was never really in the mix as a genuine World Championship contender. He lost convincingly to both Tyson and Lewis and although he marginally beat McCall for the WBC belt Tyson retired him next time out. If he would have beaten AJ shows that current HW level is way weaker than late 80's/early 90's.
 
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Unpopular with me but not on this forum they love any AJ bashing.

Personally I don't think Bruno was ever a top tier fighter, he was a good tier 2 guy but his name was never really in the mix as a genuine World Championship contender. He lost convincingly to both Tyson and Lewis and although he marginally beat McCall for the WBC belt Tyson retired him next time out. If he would have beaten AJ shows that current HW level is way weaker than late 80's/early 90's.
Current heavyweight boxing is weaker then 80's and 90's.

With the exception of the Tyson rematch.
Bruno came to fight and gave his all
In all his defeats. He went toe to toe with a prime Killer version of Tyson.

Gave Lennox Lewis, Tim Witherspoon, Bonecrusher Smith seriously tough fights.

The entire Heavyweighf division right now is second tier. In comparison to that era. When it comes to skills.
 
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Current heavyweight boxing is weaker then 80's and 90's.

With the exception of the Tyson rematch.
Bruno came to fight and gave his all
In all his defeats. He went toe to toe with a prime Killer version of Tyson.

Gave Lennox Lewis, Tim Witherspoon, Bonecrusher Smith seriously tough fights.

The entire Heavyweighf division right now is second tier. In comparison to that era. When it comes to skills.
By that I mean skills such as , feinting ,blocking, catching, parrying, pivoting, bobbing, weaving etc
Were embedded in fighters from the moment they walked into a gym.
Over the last few decades the neighbourhood boxing gyms died out, along with the old school coaches who taught these skills.

You can see these subtle skills on display in the following fight between John Tate and Mike Weaver. Neither of whom were considered elite... In todays era fans would be drooling over their skillset... In recent years as AJ himself mentioned ( when referring to his training camps) there has been too much emphasis on sportscience and fitness not enough on the art of boxing...This over emphasis of fitness and sportscience in lieu of boxing skills can be applied across the board amongst most of todays Heavyweights.

 
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Paul Smith has a point when he takes the piss out of fans who've never boxed before.
I don’t know if I agree with that mate because if we go down the road of you have to have done something to have an opinion on it soon enough we’re all talking rubbish I guess !
 
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HW is generally speaking quite boring to watch bar a few fighters. Lower weights produce far better fights generally.

Ali wasn't a particularly nice person, great fighter and respect for having convictions about the Vietnam War however he was a wife beater, a hypocrite for all his talk of civil rights he was more than happy to take money from very oppressive and despicable regimes eg Zaire, Philippines etc. Also how he treated Joe Frazier was terrible after Frazier had helped him out, what a dick.

While American boxing has declined somewhat the main reason they aren't as dominant is because other nations have improved and can now go pro etc. Especially fighters from Eastern Europe.

The HOF is more a popularity contest than actual achievement, bunch of fighters in it i wouldn't have in.

British judging has become the worst in boxing, British fighters and fans have no leg to stand on moaning about German or American judging.

Boxing should have 13 rounds to avoid a lot of draws.

Big fights should be held in a wider range of locations, I understand Vegas, NYC etc for the money but it would be great having big fights held elsewhere to grow the sport.

We should go back to same day Weigh ins
 

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Holyfield would always beat Tyson

A motivated Joan Guzman becomes an ATG.
 
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HW is generally speaking quite boring to watch bar a few fighters. Lower weights produce far better fights generally.

Ali wasn't a particularly nice person, great fighter and respect for having convictions about the Vietnam War however he was a wife beater, a hypocrite for all his talk of civil rights he was more than happy to take money from very oppressive and despicable regimes eg Zaire, Philippines etc. Also how he treated Joe Frazier was terrible after Frazier had helped him out, what a dick.

While American boxing has declined somewhat the main reason they aren't as dominant is because other nations have improved and can now go pro etc. Especially fighters from Eastern Europe.

The HOF is more a popularity contest than actual achievement, bunch of fighters in it i wouldn't have in.

British judging has become the worst in boxing, British fighters and fans have no leg to stand on moaning about German or American judging.

Boxing should have 13 rounds to avoid a lot of draws.

Big fights should be held in a wider range of locations, I understand Vegas, NYC etc for the money but it would be great having big fights held elsewhere to grow the sport.

We should go back to same day Weigh ins
Is that the Ghosts of Manila narrative by Mark Kram.

Kram highly dubious individual and corrupt journalist was fired by Sports Illustrated for taking Brown envelopes, from Don King.

Had a deep obsessive hatred of Ali and decided to do a hatchet job when he wrote his book.

In anycase Ali is a legend whilst Kram is barely a footnote in history.

Mbotu in Zaire and Marcos in Philippines had both been installed in power by the Americans. Both were projected as benevolent dictators in the west. Thats why no one amongst the media objected to fights taking place in those countries. Mark Kram himself had no problem enjoying the hospitality from the likes of Marcos.

Mark Krams wife Joan Kram allegedly divorced him , because he was a violent drunkard.

Joe Frazier has gone down in history as a legend, because of Ali.
If he never fought Ali no one would
Remember him except for the boxing anoraks. Remove Ali from his resume and his record is not exactly earth shattering, never fought the likes of Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers or Larry Holmes. Ali helped him out far more then he ever helped Ali.
 
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One Man

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Ali is far too revered for someone with a history of racism, adultery, domestic abuse, and bullying.

Calzaghe was not only better than Froch, he also has a better CV.

The officials did Vitali a favour stopping the Lewis fight when they did. (maybe not unpopular here, but there are loads of folk still up in arms about this strangely).

Haye didn't do too badly against Wlad, and the toe excuse has some merit.

Woolhouse is not that fit.

Michelle Joy Phelps is even less so.

Having ringcard girls is cringy and embarrassing.

One of the biggest reasons the US no longer dominates, particularly in the heavyweight division, is due to the legalisation of abortion and ready access to sexual protection.

The easy access to hard drugs and firearms also have a part to play.
What real man accuses another of “adultery”?